Having a dominant team (particularly a Florida team), year in and year out, pays immeasurable dividends.

Every conference needs a bellcow, and UCF is making its case. It's a very compelling case I might add.

I feel for the ECU fans out there but this may end up helping them in the long run.

To continue building football, we definitely need less parity and more clutch performances by our most recognized teams.

Damn.. What a finish!!!

Can't wait to see the media rating for that game.

(12-05-2014 12:23 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Having a dominant team (particularly a Florida team), year in and year out, pays immeasurable dividends.

Every conference needs a bellcow, and UCF is making its case. It's a very compelling case I might add.

I feel for the ECU fans out there but this may end up helping them in the long run.

To continue building football, we definitely need less parity and more clutch performances by our most recognized teams.

Damn.. What a finish!!!

Umm..no. Screw that nonsense.

Only cause it's a team you pull for.....this is nonsense.

My concern, say Boise losses, UCF would be a fringe top 25 team at best and the P5's will lose it when they see what they deem (right or wrong) to be a lesser program get a big time bowl berth over one of their friends. That may start the ball rolling to them changing the rules, why, because they can and they only care about $. Hell even if Boise wins they might *****.

i disagree with the florida part, ECU winning nad havingthem viewed as good would honeslty make no difference IMO
Beating each other doesnt make bell cows, Beating P5 does

with that said, those kind of finishes are what we need, every sports site has that game up as the headline, and with a video

games like that will be huge for the league...

(12-05-2014 12:23 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Having a dominant team (particularly a Florida team), year in and year out, pays immeasurable dividends.

UCF has won a lot of conference games by the skin of their teeth. 9 of 15 conference wins by 7 points or less.

They ain't "dominant."

(12-05-2014 10:27 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 12:23 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Having a dominant team (particularly a Florida team), year in and year out, pays immeasurable dividends.

UCF has won a lot of conference games by the skin of their teeth. 9 of 15 conference wins by 7 points or less.

They ain't "dominant."

15-1 isn't dominant?

(12-05-2014 10:19 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  My concern, say Boise losses, UCF would be a fringe top 25 team at best and the P5's will lose it when they see what they deem (right or wrong) to be a lesser program get a big time bowl berth over one of their friends. That may start the ball rolling to them changing the rules, why, because they can and they only care about $. Hell even if Boise wins they might *****.

That's what they felt about UCF to the Fiesta last year. Hopefully, whoever gets the spot, does something with it... or at the very least doesn't get blown out.

(12-05-2014 10:28 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:27 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 12:23 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Having a dominant team (particularly a Florida team), year in and year out, pays immeasurable dividends.

UCF has won a lot of conference games by the skin of their teeth. 9 of 15 conference wins by 7 points or less.

They ain't "dominant."

15-1 isn't dominant?

Dominant is what FSU did in the ACC last year.

(12-05-2014 10:28 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:19 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  My concern, say Boise losses, UCF would be a fringe top 25 team at best and the P5's will lose it when they see what they deem (right or wrong) to be a lesser program get a big time bowl berth over one of their friends. That may start the ball rolling to them changing the rules, why, because they can and they only care about $. Hell even if Boise wins they might *****.

That's what they felt about UCF to the Fiesta last year. Hopefully, whoever gets the spot, does something with it... or at the very least doesn't get blown out.

That UCF team was much better. Bortles alone was enough to shut them up, this year, I don't know. Not to mention, they have recently made more strides to separating themselves from the G5's and basically have said publicly that they better get what they want or else they will form their own governing body, that's a game changer.

You Houston fans can "caveat" things however you want.

The rest of the nation sees 15-1 and agrees that it's a dominant record.

W's are all that matters.

(12-05-2014 10:31 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  You Houston fans can "caveat" things however you want.

The rest of the nation sees 15-1 and agrees that it's a dominant record.

W's are all that matters.

The "rest of the nation" doesn't give a damn about UCF or anyone else in this conference.

(12-05-2014 10:33 AM)coogrfan Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:31 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  You Houston fans can "caveat" things however you want.

The rest of the nation sees 15-1 and agrees that it's a dominant record.

W's are all that matters.

The "rest of the nation" doesn't give a damn about UCF or anyone else in this conference.

If that makes you feel better, Houston fan.

(12-05-2014 10:30 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:28 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:19 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  My concern, say Boise losses, UCF would be a fringe top 25 team at best and the P5's will lose it when they see what they deem (right or wrong) to be a lesser program get a big time bowl berth over one of their friends. That may start the ball rolling to them changing the rules, why, because they can and they only care about $. Hell even if Boise wins they might *****.

That's what they felt about UCF to the Fiesta last year. Hopefully, whoever gets the spot, does something with it... or at the very least doesn't get blown out.

That UCF team was much better. Bortles alone was enough to shut them up, this year, I don't know. Not to mention, they have recently made more strides to separating themselves from the G5's and basically have said publicly that they better get what they want or else they will form their own governing body, that's a game changer.

I think the win, Bortles going 3rd in the draft, is clouding your recollection of the perception before the game.

The game before the Fiesta bowl saw UCF have to come from behind to beat a pretty terrible SMU team 17-13.

ESPN had Baylor as their highest confidence pick to win of ANY bowl game.

(12-05-2014 10:28 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:27 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 12:23 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Having a dominant team (particularly a Florida team), year in and year out, pays immeasurable dividends.

UCF has won a lot of conference games by the skin of their teeth. 9 of 15 conference wins by 7 points or less.

They ain't "dominant."

15-1 isn't dominant?

Not when it's 9 plays away from 6-10.

Credit to UCF for winning 90% of the close games. That's a statistic, however, that usually reverts to the mean over time and is completely up for grabs when a coaching change is made.

(12-05-2014 10:36 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:28 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:27 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 12:23 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Having a dominant team (particularly a Florida team), year in and year out, pays immeasurable dividends.

UCF has won a lot of conference games by the skin of their teeth. 9 of 15 conference wins by 7 points or less.

They ain't "dominant."

15-1 isn't dominant?

Not when it's 9 plays away from 6-10.

Credit to UCF for winning 90% of the close games. That's a statistic, however, that usually reverts to the mean over time and is completely up for grabs when a coaching change is made.

...or when the breaks start to even out, as they always do.

For example, UCF came back from 14 down to beat BYU in OT this year.

Of course, Taysom Hill was out. Houston played BYU the last two years with Taysom Hill healthy.

Anyone just looking at the records 20 years from now sees UCF beating BYU and BYU beating Houston. That doesn't tell the whole story. No way UCF beats BYU this year with Hill playing.

(12-05-2014 10:36 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:30 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:28 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:19 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  My concern, say Boise losses, UCF would be a fringe top 25 team at best and the P5's will lose it when they see what they deem (right or wrong) to be a lesser program get a big time bowl berth over one of their friends. That may start the ball rolling to them changing the rules, why, because they can and they only care about $. Hell even if Boise wins they might *****.

That's what they felt about UCF to the Fiesta last year. Hopefully, whoever gets the spot, does something with it... or at the very least doesn't get blown out.

That UCF team was much better. Bortles alone was enough to shut them up, this year, I don't know. Not to mention, they have recently made more strides to separating themselves from the G5's and basically have said publicly that they better get what they want or else they will form their own governing body, that's a game changer.

I think the win, Bortles going 3rd in the draft, is clouding your recollection of the perception before the game.

The game before the Fiesta bowl saw UCF have to come from behind to beat a pretty terrible SMU team 17-13.

ESPN had Baylor as their highest confidence pick to win of ANY bowl game.

I didn't mean to say that there wasn't a ton of P5 types who were not happy but the fact remains that UCF team was much better and had a star so at least the power of their voices was diminished. This year with their threats of autonomy and what will likely be an unranked UCF team, idk.

(12-05-2014 10:33 AM)coogrfan Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:31 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  You Houston fans can "caveat" things however you want.

The rest of the nation sees 15-1 and agrees that it's a dominant record.

W's are all that matters.

The "rest of the nation" doesn't give a damn about UCF or anyone else in this conference.

UCF has been great in this conference, however, sadly there is very little national relevance. Was listening to FoxSports radio's national morning guys and they mocked the conference affiliation. In fact, they couldn't even name the conference. This is an uphill battle because of the $.