I assume they get decided through a series of conversations and negotiations with the bowl reps, school officials and conference officials. I don't think the guy from CBS Sports has any impact on the decisions. UT might go to Boise, might not. But I don't see how any predictions from him (or guys from ESPN or anyplace else) play any part.

Which of course leads to the question of why I bothered to post it. Or why the predictions get made in the first place. Just something to talk about, I suppose.

I have seen a number of predictions having the Rockets going to Montgomery facing Texas State. That said, IMO, ANY bowl game is a reward. Yep, some rewards are better than others but think back to last year - no reward stinks and stings. Looking forward to the invitation replacing speculation.

I agree. Good points.

(11-30-2014 08:21 AM)cnyrocketfan Wrote:  I assume they get decided through a series of conversations and negotiations with the bowl reps, school officials and conference officials. I don't think the guy from CBS Sports has any impact on the decisions. UT might go to Boise, might not. But I don't see how any predictions from him (or guys from ESPN or anyplace else) play any part.

Which of course leads to the question of why I bothered to post it. Or why the predictions get made in the first place. Just something to talk about, I suppose.

I wasn't thinking about the CBS guy having any impact - but rather with the MAC offices. They should be thinking about what is best for Toledo and it's fans (now that just made me rotflmao as I wrote it) I bet they offered us to play in Boise only if it could be played at night in sub-freezing weather, can only be shown on ESPNU with a 9pm start time with lot's of commercials promoting the Idaho potato and a work day the next day.

(11-30-2014 08:31 AM)MotoRocket Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 08:21 AM)cnyrocketfan Wrote:  I assume they get decided through a series of conversations and negotiations with the bowl reps, school officials and conference officials. I don't think the guy from CBS Sports has any impact on the decisions. UT might go to Boise, might not. But I don't see how any predictions from him (or guys from ESPN or anyplace else) play any part.

Which of course leads to the question of why I bothered to post it. Or why the predictions get made in the first place. Just something to talk about, I suppose.

I wasn't thinking about the CBS guy having any impact - but rather with the MAC offices. They should be thinking about what is best for Toledo and it's fans (now that just made me rotflmao as I wrote it) I bet they offered us to play in Boise only if it could be played at night in sub-freezing weather, can only be shown on ESPNU with a 9pm start time with lot's of commercials promoting the Idaho potato and a work day the next day.

Those are good points too. I know you knew that the projections don't have any influence. Just me stating the obvious again.

I know the last game was against Eastern BUT the Rockets were clicking on O, D and special teams. It was their moat complete game of the season since the opener against a pretty good New Hampshire team. I watched several EMU games against MAC competition; the Rockets dominated them and Bell was on the run all game. Eastern's bright spot, as it has been most of this season, was in slowing the Rockets' running game; Hunt was "limited" to 110 yards rushing. Logan looked his best this year as did the OL in pass protection. Hope this energy carries into the bowl game wherever it is held.

Yeah, for all that's been said about the inability to dominate weaker opponents, that is exactly what happened on Friday. EMU sold out to stop Kareem Hunt and forced Woodside to beat them, and that he did. Plus I think the pass defense has been adequate for a few games now. I mean, somehow Eastern was throwing the ball all over Ball State--they scored more points on the Cardinals than Bowling Green did (Eastern would likely beat BG based on 2014 scheduling data), but couldn't get much of anything going against us.

(11-29-2014 06:38 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  Yeah...we better hope we get a bowl matchup that we have a shot at winning rather than wishing for an opponent from the Big 10, ACC or AAC. I'm fine with playing a Sun Belt team that's closer to our level.

I agree with this way of thinking as well. I don't even mind going to Idaho as we've been battle tested in those cold conditions, and because Boise St. is probably out of the running for that game. But what if we draw the other MWC division champ SDSU...have they been tested at 24 degrees? I would have loved to draw Marshall and get into a shootout with them, because we could. Then there's the Sun Belt, which is probably stronger than the MAC, but for goodness sakes their champion isn't even bowl eligible because they're too new to FBS. I'd much rather draw a team from the G5 this year.

(11-29-2014 05:26 PM)cnyrocketfan Wrote:  FWIW, Illinois beat Northwestern 47-33 and is bowl eligible at 6-6. Illini kept Northwestern from bowl eligibility: Wildcats finish 5-7.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball..._ILL@NWEST

Northwestern was playing without its starting QB. Trevor Seiman, who played the entire season including against NIU, was injured in their previous game.

FWIW, more projections, updated this morning. And this site (SBnation) also has the Rockets going to Boise. But playing Nevada instead of Fresno State.


http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...layoff-tcu

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FWIW, more projections, updated this morning. And this site (SBnation) also has the Rockets going to Boise. But playing Nevada instead of Fresno State.


http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...layoff-tcu
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That would be a bad matchup for us and it's Boise...

Boise gets the second choice, but its still possible NIU gets shipped to the best bowl of g5 and godaddy opens up, also that the second choice wants us over BG. IMO we should decline Boise and get one of the other three that have to want us also.

(11-30-2014 01:48 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Boise gets the second choice, but its still possible NIU gets shipped to the best bowl of g5 and godaddy opens up, also that the second choice wants us over BG. IMO we should decline Boise and get one of the other three that have to want us also.

Schools like us that decline bowl invitations end up staying home for the holidays.

College bowls are stupid and meaningless. The lack of a real playoff is the only thing stopping it from passing the NFL in popularity.

We have to not be stupid and KNOW that a bowl behind them would take us. Obviously MOB knows who wants us. If bahammas or Boca guarantees they want us, and Idaho throws an invite I could see us declining. If a team other than NIU or BG goes there we know that they probably offered us also and we turned it down because there is no reason that CMU, WMU, or OU would be picked over Toledo.

(11-30-2014 07:57 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  We have to not be stupid and KNOW that a bowl behind them would take us. Obviously MOB knows who wants us. If bahammas or Boca guarantees they want us, and Idaho throws an invite I could see us declining. If a team other than NIU or BG goes there we know that they probably offered us also and we turned it down because there is no reason that CMU, WMU, or OU would be picked over Toledo.

Don't underestimate the influence of the MAC Office in "facilitating" these bowl match ups and I seriously doubt if the MAC Office appreciates any individual school trying to "interfere" in the process.

On another thread someone mentioned the $$$ schools these G5 schools have been losing because of football. MOB is probably doing anything he can to lose less $$$ than the next school. Bowl games lose money for MAC teams... it is just a fact. If Toledo doesn't sell our alotment of ??? tickets... we eat the cash! If turning down the Bahamas or Idaho to save a boatload of money is an option, why be surprised if we do it? We may not ever know about it, but stuff like that goes on. If our AD KNOWS he can lose Toledo less money by playing in a game that lots of fans will want to attend, or where travel is cheaper... he will do it.

We did the Boise thing once. Eventually it will be our turn again but I don't think this is the year we end up there. The other four bowls are more likely IMO... taking out the Godaddy assuming that NIU wins the MAC and Boise State wins the MWC. Toledo will be in either Boca, Bahamas, or Montgomery. The Montgomery game has last pick of the MAC bowls, and I doubt we fall that far (unless it is arranged to get out of Idaho). So I see Toledo vs. La Tech, MTSU, or Marshall in the Bahamas or Boca.

I really hope Toledo plays in Boca, I will bring my entire family! FYI, I can see the stadium from my office. LOL

(11-30-2014 10:46 PM)T-Town Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 07:57 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  We have to not be stupid and KNOW that a bowl behind them would take us. Obviously MOB knows who wants us. If bahammas or Boca guarantees they want us, and Idaho throws an invite I could see us declining. If a team other than NIU or BG goes there we know that they probably offered us also and we turned it down because there is no reason that CMU, WMU, or OU would be picked over Toledo.

Don't underestimate the influence of the MAC Office in "facilitating" these bowl match ups and I seriously doubt if the MAC Office appreciates any individual school trying to "interfere" in the process.

Well, I certainly do not appreciate the MAC office........

(12-01-2014 09:06 AM)FtLauderdaleRocket Wrote:  I really hope Toledo plays in Boca, I will bring my entire family! FYI, I can see the stadium from my office. LOL

I'll be bringing my family as well...hope we get this one.

(11-30-2014 11:44 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  On another thread someone mentioned the $$$ schools these G5 schools have been losing because of football. MOB is probably doing anything he can to lose less $$$ than the next school. Bowl games lose money for MAC teams... it is just a fact. If Toledo doesn't sell our alotment of ??? tickets... we eat the cash! If turning down the Bahamas or Idaho to save a boatload of money is an option, why be surprised if we do it?

The university sells so relatively few bowl tickets, I doubt it matters which bowl we attend. Losing money on the mandatory ticket allotment is just accepted. I believe most of that is made up for by the bowl's purse anyway.

The truth we all have to accept is that unless you are one of the largest schools, your football program will not be profitable. It is not a business, it's an extracurricular activity with the world's largest case of gigantism.