(11-28-2014 10:30 PM)knightalum74 Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 09:56 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  For all the crap you talk, you must remember that UCF has never played in a BCS/P5 conference. You essentially have won CUSA 3 times. I will give UCF props for your Fiesta Bowl win but to talk crap about how we didnt win within that conference... well your school has no idea how hard it is to win in that type of conference. You've never played a season at that level, so to even attempt to compare is complete BS. If UCF had gotten into the Big East instead of USF, you would have been pounded and had a very difficult time. If you had accomplished what we did, I would be surprised.

USFs biggest issue is we got promoted too quickly and honestly I am ridiculously proud of what we accomplished. We were in a power conference within 4 years of being FBS and only after 7 years of total play, we were taking on the highest level of competition. We simply didn't have the donors, fan support and infrastructure in place to be able to compete and stay at that level.

Your program has been around since 79 and ours since 98 and yet we have played at a much harder and higher level. If we had stayed in CUSA I have no doubt we too would have won a couple championships. I cant prove it, but you cant prove you would have done any better within the Big East... and your top 10 teams you have beaten wont even compare to ours.

I am really happy with what we have accomplished within the time we have been a program. Your program is 18 years older and I guarantee we win the AAC by the time were that old... in fact, I guarantee we win it a couple times. 2016 is coming soon... thats the year USF is back and UCF sees us back where we were before.

4-2 67% of the time, were better.

You're argument is completely flawed, and based purely on conjecture. Had UCF had a BCS "tag" what's to say we wouldn't have recruited better talent and been able to win the Big East and a BCS games? Hell, win it multiple times?

And regardless of what you think, we did play in a BCS conference last year, and WON the conference, and WON a BCS bowl game. We beat multiple ranked teams, and multiple teams that are "P5" conferences today. Those are FACTS!

You want another FACT? I guarantee you that USF fans will NEVER, EVER outnumber UCF fans in BHNS....EVER! We have a program, and a fan base to go along with it, that has dealt with adversity. You have a house of cards that you are so desperate to portray something else. Maybe you will be back in 2016, maybe you won't...But if you aren't I guarantee you we'll fill up your stadium with chants of U-C-F! U-C-F! (hell, we'll still probably do it, even if USF is "back')

Oh, and Marshall won their first 3 games against us, and we turned them into our b!tch when we moved conferences. Looks like you guys are auditioning just fine to take that role in the American!

No, you played in CUSA, but Ill give you it was a littler tougher then the one now. USF played 9-10 P5 teams each year. Last year you played in a conference that only had 3 former P5 teams in it and 3 current. UCF has never played in a P% conference.

Just as I acknowledged nobody can prove what UCF would have done at that level, your argument that USF somehow underperformed is insane. For a team as young as we are to have done any of what we have done is nothing short of amazing. Of course our fanbase is fickel. Our program is about half as young as yours. It takes time to build it up. Right now we have a ton of bandwagon fans. When were playing well, were packing in an average of 45K fans per game. UCF has never averaged that high.

I am loving the smack talk from yall. USF is down... and now is your time to gloat. Nothing lasts.

(11-28-2014 10:35 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 10:30 PM)knightalum74 Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 09:56 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  For all the crap you talk, you must remember that UCF has never played in a BCS/P5 conference. You essentially have won CUSA 3 times. I will give UCF props for your Fiesta Bowl win but to talk crap about how we didnt win within that conference... well your school has no idea how hard it is to win in that type of conference. You've never played a season at that level, so to even attempt to compare is complete BS. If UCF had gotten into the Big East instead of USF, you would have been pounded and had a very difficult time. If you had accomplished what we did, I would be surprised.

USFs biggest issue is we got promoted too quickly and honestly I am ridiculously proud of what we accomplished. We were in a power conference within 4 years of being FBS and only after 7 years of total play, we were taking on the highest level of competition. We simply didn't have the donors, fan support and infrastructure in place to be able to compete and stay at that level.

Your program has been around since 79 and ours since 98 and yet we have played at a much harder and higher level. If we had stayed in CUSA I have no doubt we too would have won a couple championships. I cant prove it, but you cant prove you would have done any better within the Big East... and your top 10 teams you have beaten wont even compare to ours.

I am really happy with what we have accomplished within the time we have been a program. Your program is 18 years older and I guarantee we win the AAC by the time were that old... in fact, I guarantee we win it a couple times. 2016 is coming soon... thats the year USF is back and UCF sees us back where we were before.

4-2 67% of the time, were better.

You're argument is completely flawed, and based purely on conjecture. Had UCF had a BCS "tag" what's to say we wouldn't have recruited better talent and been able to win the Big East and a BCS games? Hell, win it multiple times?

And regardless of what you think, we did play in a BCS conference last year, and WON the conference, and WON a BCS bowl game. We beat multiple ranked teams, and multiple teams that are "P5" conferences today. Those are FACTS!

You want another FACT? I guarantee you that USF fans will NEVER, EVER outnumber UCF fans in BHNS....EVER! We have a program, and a fan base to go along with it, that has dealt with adversity. You have a house of cards that you are so desperate to portray something else. Maybe you will be back in 2016, maybe you won't...But if you aren't I guarantee you we'll fill up your stadium with chants of U-C-F! U-C-F! (hell, we'll still probably do it, even if USF is "back')

Oh, and Marshall won their first 3 games against us, and we turned them into our b!tch when we moved conferences. Looks like you guys are auditioning just fine to take that role in the American!

No, you played in CUSA, but Ill give you it was a littler tougher then the one now. USF played 9-10 P5 teams each year. Last year you played in a conference that only had 3 former P5 teams in it and 3 current. UCF has never played in a P% conference.

Just as I acknowledged nobody can prove what UCF would have done at that level, your argument that USF somehow underperformed is insane. For a team as young as we are to have done any of what we have done is nothing short of amazing. Of course our fanbase is fickel. Our program is about half as young as yours. It takes time to build it up. Right now we have a ton of bandwagon fans. When were playing well, were packing in an average of 45K fans per game. UCF has never averaged that high.

I am loving the smack talk from yall. USF is down... and now is your time to gloat. Nothing lasts.

You sound awfully upset that UCF has accomplished more than USF.

(11-28-2014 10:35 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  No, you played in CUSA. USF played 9-10 P5 teams each year. Last year you played in a conference that only had 3 former P5 teams in it. UCF has never played in a P% conference.

Just as I acknowledged nobody can prove what UCF would have done at that level, your argument that USF somehow underperformed is insane. For a team as young as we are to have done any of what we have done is nothing short of amazing. Of course our fanbase is fickel. Our program is about half as young as yours. It takes time to build it up. Right now we have a ton of bandwagon fans. When were playing well, were packing in an average of 45K fans per game. UCF has never averaged that high.

I am loving the smack talk from yall. USF is down... and now is your time to gloat. Nothing lasts.

LOL, whatever helps you sleep at night. Oh, and it's fickle, not fickel .. But I know you graduated from USF, so even the concept of spell check is challenging for you.

And just so we on this board are all clear. How long is it acceptable for USF to "be down"? Just want to make sure we know so we aren't too hard on your "fickel" fans ..

(11-28-2014 10:40 PM)knightalum74 Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 10:35 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  No, you played in CUSA. USF played 9-10 P5 teams each year. Last year you played in a conference that only had 3 former P5 teams in it. UCF has never played in a P% conference.

Just as I acknowledged nobody can prove what UCF would have done at that level, your argument that USF somehow underperformed is insane. For a team as young as we are to have done any of what we have done is nothing short of amazing. Of course our fanbase is fickel. Our program is about half as young as yours. It takes time to build it up. Right now we have a ton of bandwagon fans. When were playing well, were packing in an average of 45K fans per game. UCF has never averaged that high.

I am loving the smack talk from yall. USF is down... and now is your time to gloat. Nothing lasts.

LOL, whatever helps you sleep at night. Oh, and it's fickle, not fickel .. But I know you graduated from USF, so even the concept of spell check is challenging for you.

And just so we on this board are all clear. How long is it acceptable for USF to "be down"? Just want to make sure we know so we aren't too hard on your "fickel" fans ..

Always love when people go to spelling on a message board. Typically shows the weakness of their argument.

Id say 2016 is a good measurement. How long is it acceptable for a program to suck. UCF wasnt crap for well over a decade. USF is light years ahead of where UCF was only 18 years into their existence.

Last time I checked you have the higher accomplishment, but USF has won way more big games. When you factor in age of programs, I think USF is doing just fine.

(11-28-2014 10:35 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  No, you played in CUSA, but Ill give you it was a littler tougher then the one now. USF played 9-10 P5 teams each year. Last year you played in a conference that only had 3 former P5 teams in it and 3 current. UCF has never played in a P% conference.

Just as I acknowledged nobody can prove what UCF would have done at that level, your argument that USF somehow underperformed is insane. For a team as young as we are to have done any of what we have done is nothing short of amazing. Of course our fanbase is fickel. Our program is about half as young as yours. It takes time to build it up. Right now we have a ton of bandwagon fans. When were playing well, were packing in an average of 45K fans per game. UCF has never averaged that high.

I am loving the smack talk from yall. USF is down... and now is your time to gloat. Nothing lasts.

Oh, and please explain me why your basketball program sucks a$$ too? By your logic you should be a top program in this conference. Your program has been around longer and has competed in superior conferences .... Or are they "down" too? Is everything in Temple Terrace "down"?

Or maybe, is it the ineptitude and leadership of your "fine" institution?

(11-28-2014 10:43 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Always love when people go to spelling on a message board. Typically shows the weakness of their argument.

Id say 2016 is a good measurement. How long is it acceptable for a program to suck. UCF wasnt crap for well over a decade. USF is light years ahead of where UCF was only 16 years into their existence.

Last time I checked you have the higher accomplishment, but USF has won way more big games. When you factor in age of programs, I think USF is doing just fine.

Nice deflection in your flawed argument. And sorry, but there isn't many bigger games than winning a BCS game. But hey, keep hanging on to the past there Uncle Rico!

Time for ole Willie T to get off the bus.....

First 18 years of USFs existence 118 wins
First 18 years of UCFs existence 109 wins

I wont even go into which teams UCF beat compared to USF during that time.

USF had the majority of their wins at the hardest level of football. UCF did theirs mostly at Division 3. Like I said, when you compare apples to apples I like where USF is and what weve accomplished.

(11-28-2014 10:45 PM)knightalum74 Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 10:43 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Always love when people go to spelling on a message board. Typically shows the weakness of their argument.

Id say 2016 is a good measurement. How long is it acceptable for a program to suck. UCF wasnt crap for well over a decade. USF is light years ahead of where UCF was only 16 years into their existence.

Last time I checked you have the higher accomplishment, but USF has won way more big games. When you factor in age of programs, I think USF is doing just fine.

Nice deflection in your flawed argument. And sorry, but there isn't many bigger games than winning a BCS game. But hey, keep hanging on to the past there Uncle Rico!

Not a deflection. UCF loves to try to compare two programs but not look at history. UCF hadnt accomplished ANYTHING 18 years into existance. Literally nothing, unless you want to count beating a semi pro team from moscow.

USF on the other hand has but just like any young program were gonna have ups and down... and yet were 4-2 against you. I mean, you guys got nearly a 20 year head start on us and yet we beat you nearly 70% of the time. Roll that up and smoke it.

(11-28-2014 10:57 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  First 18 years of USFs existence 118 wins
First 18 years of UCFs existence 109 wins

I wont even go into which teams UCF beat compared to USF during that time.

USF had the majority of their wins at the hardest level of football. UCF did theirs mostly at Division 3. Like I said, when you compare apples to apples I like where USF is and what weve accomplished.

Sh!t you are dense. It's not apples to apples. It was different decades and totally different circumstances and purely conjecture to say that UCF wouldn't have done the same thing or better had we followed your path.

Keep reaching though!

And enjoy that donut and UCF fans taking over your rented stadium! I know we all did!!

(11-28-2014 11:01 PM)knightalum74 Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 10:57 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  First 18 years of USFs existence 118 wins
First 18 years of UCFs existence 109 wins

I wont even go into which teams UCF beat compared to USF during that time.

USF had the majority of their wins at the hardest level of football. UCF did theirs mostly at Division 3. Like I said, when you compare apples to apples I like where USF is and what weve accomplished.

Sh!t you are dense. It's not apples to apples. It was different decades and totally different circumstances and purely conjecture to say that UCF wouldn't have done the same thing or better had we followed your path.

Keep reaching though!

And enjoy that donut and UCF fans taking over your rented stadium! I know we all did!!

Awe there it is the infamour U C "iF". Its not about what you might have done. Its about what you DID do and what we DID do. I can play the same game... USF could have kicked the crap out of UCiF if we had started a football program in 1979.

The only comparison that can be made is what each team has done from time of inception to comparative points. I am comparing what actually happened. Your attempting to compare "if" scenarios... which is typical for you guys.

4-2

(11-28-2014 11:11 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 11:01 PM)knightalum74 Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 10:57 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  First 18 years of USFs existence 118 wins
First 18 years of UCFs existence 109 wins

I wont even go into which teams UCF beat compared to USF during that time.

USF had the majority of their wins at the hardest level of football. UCF did theirs mostly at Division 3. Like I said, when you compare apples to apples I like where USF is and what weve accomplished.

Sh!t you are dense. It's not apples to apples. It was different decades and totally different circumstances and purely conjecture to say that UCF wouldn't have done the same thing or better had we followed your path.

Keep reaching though!

And enjoy that donut and UCF fans taking over your rented stadium! I know we all did!!

Awe there it is the infamour U C "iF". Its not about what you might have done. Its about what you DID do and what we DID do. I can play the same game... USF could have kicked the crap out of UCiF if we had started a football program in 1979.

The only comparison that can be made is what each team has done from time of inception to comparative points. I am comparing what actually happened. Your attempting to compare "if" scenarios... which is typical for you guys.

4-2

Ha, this thread has USiF all over it bud

http://thebullspen.com/topic/98752-most-...ory/page-2

My argument wasn't "if", it was that you don't know what "apples to apples" means. Like I said, you are f'in dense! You can't compare how we each started our programs (in totally different times and landscapes of the game) and go and beat your chest. Keep hanging on to the past though, we live in the present and right now, this decade, we are 2-0 against usf (see how I can twist things around too)!!!

(11-28-2014 11:20 PM)knightalum74 Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 11:11 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 11:01 PM)knightalum74 Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 10:57 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  First 18 years of USFs existence 118 wins
First 18 years of UCFs existence 109 wins

I wont even go into which teams UCF beat compared to USF during that time.

USF had the majority of their wins at the hardest level of football. UCF did theirs mostly at Division 3. Like I said, when you compare apples to apples I like where USF is and what weve accomplished.

Sh!t you are dense. It's not apples to apples. It was different decades and totally different circumstances and purely conjecture to say that UCF wouldn't have done the same thing or better had we followed your path.

Keep reaching though!

And enjoy that donut and UCF fans taking over your rented stadium! I know we all did!!

Awe there it is the infamour U C "iF". Its not about what you might have done. Its about what you DID do and what we DID do. I can play the same game... USF could have kicked the crap out of UCiF if we had started a football program in 1979.

The only comparison that can be made is what each team has done from time of inception to comparative points. I am comparing what actually happened. Your attempting to compare "if" scenarios... which is typical for you guys.

4-2

Ha, this thread has USiF all over it bud

http://thebullspen.com/topic/98752-most-...ory/page-2

My argument wasn't "if", it was that you don't know what "apples to apples" means. Like I said, you are f'in dense! You can't compare how we each started our programs (in totally different times and landscapes of the game) and go and beat your chest. Keep hanging on to the past though, we live in the present and right now, this decade, we are 2-0 against usf (see how I can twist things around too)!!!

Actually I do data analysis for a living and baseline data of initial starting point is a typical place to start. You just don't like to compare it that way cause it doesn't work for you. You want to compare a team that had almost 20 years on the field to one that just started. That's BS and anybody who knows anything about analysis knows this... but I am only a Behavior Analyst so what do I know.... but you just go on with your denial. I love my Bulls. I hold my head high for all we have accomplished and how clean we did it.

(11-28-2014 11:26 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 11:20 PM)knightalum74 Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 11:11 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 11:01 PM)knightalum74 Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 10:57 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  First 18 years of USFs existence 118 wins
First 18 years of UCFs existence 109 wins

I wont even go into which teams UCF beat compared to USF during that time.

USF had the majority of their wins at the hardest level of football. UCF did theirs mostly at Division 3. Like I said, when you compare apples to apples I like where USF is and what weve accomplished.

Sh!t you are dense. It's not apples to apples. It was different decades and totally different circumstances and purely conjecture to say that UCF wouldn't have done the same thing or better had we followed your path.

Keep reaching though!

And enjoy that donut and UCF fans taking over your rented stadium! I know we all did!!

Awe there it is the infamour U C "iF". Its not about what you might have done. Its about what you DID do and what we DID do. I can play the same game... USF could have kicked the crap out of UCiF if we had started a football program in 1979.

The only comparison that can be made is what each team has done from time of inception to comparative points. I am comparing what actually happened. Your attempting to compare "if" scenarios... which is typical for you guys.

4-2

Ha, this thread has USiF all over it bud

http://thebullspen.com/topic/98752-most-...ory/page-2

My argument wasn't "if", it was that you don't know what "apples to apples" means. Like I said, you are f'in dense! You can't compare how we each started our programs (in totally different times and landscapes of the game) and go and beat your chest. Keep hanging on to the past though, we live in the present and right now, this decade, we are 2-0 against usf (see how I can twist things around too)!!!

Actually I do data analysis for a living and baseline data of initial starting point is a typical place to start. You just don't like to compare it that way cause it doesn't work for you. You want to compare a team that had almost 20 years on the field to one that just started. That's BS and anybody who knows anything about analysis knows this... but I am only a Behavior Analyst so what do I know.... but you just go on with your denial. I love my Bulls. I hold my head high for all we have accomplished and how clean we did it.

Inventorying the freezer at McDonalds isn't data analysis, but nice try!!

And if you really do data analysis for a living than you should know how data and numbers can easily be misused:

http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/artic...nipulated/

(11-28-2014 11:26 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 11:20 PM)knightalum74 Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 11:11 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 11:01 PM)knightalum74 Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 10:57 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  First 18 years of USFs existence 118 wins
First 18 years of UCFs existence 109 wins

I wont even go into which teams UCF beat compared to USF during that time.

USF had the majority of their wins at the hardest level of football. UCF did theirs mostly at Division 3. Like I said, when you compare apples to apples I like where USF is and what weve accomplished.

Sh!t you are dense. It's not apples to apples. It was different decades and totally different circumstances and purely conjecture to say that UCF wouldn't have done the same thing or better had we followed your path.

Keep reaching though!

And enjoy that donut and UCF fans taking over your rented stadium! I know we all did!!

Awe there it is the infamour U C "iF". Its not about what you might have done. Its about what you DID do and what we DID do. I can play the same game... USF could have kicked the crap out of UCiF if we had started a football program in 1979.

The only comparison that can be made is what each team has done from time of inception to comparative points. I am comparing what actually happened. Your attempting to compare "if" scenarios... which is typical for you guys.

4-2

Ha, this thread has USiF all over it bud

http://thebullspen.com/topic/98752-most-...ory/page-2

My argument wasn't "if", it was that you don't know what "apples to apples" means. Like I said, you are f'in dense! You can't compare how we each started our programs (in totally different times and landscapes of the game) and go and beat your chest. Keep hanging on to the past though, we live in the present and right now, this decade, we are 2-0 against usf (see how I can twist things around too)!!!

Actually I do data analysis for a living and baseline data of initial starting point is a typical place to start. You just don't like to compare it that way cause it doesn't work for you. You want to compare a team that had almost 20 years on the field to one that just started. That's BS and anybody who knows anything about analysis knows this... but I am only a Behavior Analyst so what do I know.... but you just go on with your denial. I love my Bulls. I hold my head high for all we have accomplished and how clean we did it.

Congrats on your moral victory?

If you want to compare usf's first 18 years to UCFs go ahead. We will just keep winning hardware.

(11-28-2014 11:30 PM)knightalum74 Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 11:26 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 11:20 PM)knightalum74 Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 11:11 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 11:01 PM)knightalum74 Wrote:  Sh!t you are dense. It's not apples to apples. It was different decades and totally different circumstances and purely conjecture to say that UCF wouldn't have done the same thing or better had we followed your path.

Keep reaching though!

And enjoy that donut and UCF fans taking over your rented stadium! I know we all did!!

Awe there it is the infamour U C "iF". Its not about what you might have done. Its about what you DID do and what we DID do. I can play the same game... USF could have kicked the crap out of UCiF if we had started a football program in 1979.

The only comparison that can be made is what each team has done from time of inception to comparative points. I am comparing what actually happened. Your attempting to compare "if" scenarios... which is typical for you guys.

4-2

Ha, this thread has USiF all over it bud

http://thebullspen.com/topic/98752-most-...ory/page-2

My argument wasn't "if", it was that you don't know what "apples to apples" means. Like I said, you are f'in dense! You can't compare how we each started our programs (in totally different times and landscapes of the game) and go and beat your chest. Keep hanging on to the past though, we live in the present and right now, this decade, we are 2-0 against usf (see how I can twist things around too)!!!

Actually I do data analysis for a living and baseline data of initial starting point is a typical place to start. You just don't like to compare it that way cause it doesn't work for you. You want to compare a team that had almost 20 years on the field to one that just started. That's BS and anybody who knows anything about analysis knows this... but I am only a Behavior Analyst so what do I know.... but you just go on with your denial. I love my Bulls. I hold my head high for all we have accomplished and how clean we did it.

Inventorying the freezer at McDonalds isn't data analysis, but nice try!!

And if you really do data analysis for a living than you should know how data and numbers can easily be misused:

http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/artic...nipulated/

Oh, I see why your confused. USF degrees can be used for things outside of retail and restaurants. I know your not used to that considering you went to the lower ranked school but you see over in Tampa (not Disney University) we actually go out and work with our degrees.

I work within the field of Applied Behavioral Analysis. My job is to help shape and change behavior of children with learning disabilities and autism. Every day of my life I do data. Graphing is second nature to me.

What is Disney university? Oh, that's your shot at UCF. Good one bro.

(11-28-2014 11:45 PM)NavyKnight Wrote:  What is Disney university? Oh, that's your shot at UCF. Good one bro.

Thanks. Yall look so similar I figured its accurate... that and UCF has the highest employment rate at Disney then any university.

(11-28-2014 11:45 PM)NavyKnight Wrote:  What is Disney university? Oh, that's your shot at UCF. Good one bro.

His smack is terrible, haha. Its okay though, USF fans don't have too much material to use.

(11-28-2014 11:42 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 11:30 PM)knightalum74 Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 11:26 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 11:20 PM)knightalum74 Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 11:11 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Awe there it is the infamour U C "iF". Its not about what you might have done. Its about what you DID do and what we DID do. I can play the same game... USF could have kicked the crap out of UCiF if we had started a football program in 1979.

The only comparison that can be made is what each team has done from time of inception to comparative points. I am comparing what actually happened. Your attempting to compare "if" scenarios... which is typical for you guys.

4-2

Ha, this thread has USiF all over it bud

http://thebullspen.com/topic/98752-most-...ory/page-2

My argument wasn't "if", it was that you don't know what "apples to apples" means. Like I said, you are f'in dense! You can't compare how we each started our programs (in totally different times and landscapes of the game) and go and beat your chest. Keep hanging on to the past though, we live in the present and right now, this decade, we are 2-0 against usf (see how I can twist things around too)!!!

Actually I do data analysis for a living and baseline data of initial starting point is a typical place to start. You just don't like to compare it that way cause it doesn't work for you. You want to compare a team that had almost 20 years on the field to one that just started. That's BS and anybody who knows anything about analysis knows this... but I am only a Behavior Analyst so what do I know.... but you just go on with your denial. I love my Bulls. I hold my head high for all we have accomplished and how clean we did it.

Inventorying the freezer at McDonalds isn't data analysis, but nice try!!

And if you really do data analysis for a living than you should know how data and numbers can easily be misused:

http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/artic...nipulated/

Oh, I see why your confused. USF degrees can be used for things outside of retail and restaurants. I know your not used to that considering you went to the lower ranked school but you see over in Tampa (not Disney University) we actually go out and work with our degrees.

I work within the field of Applied Behavioral Analysis. My job is to help shape and change behavior of children with learning disabilities and autism. Every day of my life I do data. Graphing is second nature to me.

You really should just stop..

"Every day of my life I do data" ... (WTF does that really mean?)

"Graphing is second nature to me" ...

So you took a class in Excel and can move a mouse. Congrats!

I feel sorry for those poor children if you are supposed to be helping them.