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If we stay rinky-dink....that's how we will be perceived in all aspects! Dad to son..."why do you want to go to Western? They can't even put on a decent TV presentation....how rinky-dink!"

Final question....Do you think anyone important from Bronco Hockey reads these posts? If I were a computer genius....we must have some out there...I would set up a function that automatically forwards these blog posts to Andy Murray every day.
10-05-2014 09:06 AM
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(10-05-2014 09:06 AM)BroncoDetroit Wrote:  Do you think anyone important from Bronco Hockey reads these posts? If I were a computer genius....we must have some out there...I would set up a function that automatically forwards these blog posts to Andy Murray every day.

Actually, thats why I bumped this thread. Last year after I started this thread, I saw how someone from the with in was actually trying to implement some of my suggestions

Lets hope they are still tuning in.....
10-05-2014 10:03 AM
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Yesterday was frustrating beyond belief.
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Yeah I'm gonna just wait until somebody says it's working decently before I shell out for it.
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(10-05-2014 11:48 AM)SilentStryk09 Wrote:  Yeah I'm gonna just wait until somebody says it's working decently before I shell out for it.

Bad thing is, if if just was remotely reliable and decent quality, I'd shell for it in an instant.
10-05-2014 12:56 PM
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(10-05-2014 12:56 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  
(10-05-2014 11:48 AM)SilentStryk09 Wrote:  Yeah I'm gonna just wait until somebody says it's working decently before I shell out for it.

Bad thing is, if if just was remotely reliable and decent quality, I'd shell for it in an instant.
Same. I would die to be able to watch the games every week, especially on all platforms like the NCHC is pushing. But I'm not shelling out that kind of money when I don't know if I'll even be able to watch the whole game.
10-05-2014 01:02 PM
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I watched some more NCHC.tv games Sun and Mon. I also been checking some of the other teams local fan forums to see what others are saying

Sounds like thier were some technical problems with some of the other teams streams, no audio in the beginning, video streaming starting late, etc... Read somewhere on the league web site there were problems related to Nuelion, but it sounds like they all got worked out pretty quickly

I though SCSU had the best video and audio. There is no doubt because of the schools commitment to the "broadcast accedemic" program, that it is very polished.

North Dakota was pretty good also. CC video was ok. Miami's video was average a best. Same with UMD's and UNO. For all this hype about seeing broadcast in high definition, I'm not seeing it yet. I will say I have not seen all the other teams local streaming last year (UMD, CC & Denver), so I don't have a benchmark to compare them to. Last nights auido in the UNO game was bad.

I remember watching Notre Dames stream last year during the tournament and I was really impressed with the high definition broadcast. Coming into the season this was my expectation, but after this weekend it appears none of the teams can match that. Not being a tech head, I'm going to assume some of the has to do with the league interface

What I do like about NCHC.tv, the picture in picture feature (will be using this allot), on demand access of all the teams games in the league and the "condensed" version of the games on demand, editing out allot of the "dead" time when the clock isn't running. I still have not figured out the scores on/off button. I assume that you will be able to hide the score board box it you don't want to see it???

I did have some issues loggin on, as for some reason, even though I was already logged on, when I would switch to watch another game, it would ask me to log on again......and even though I checked the "remember me" box, it never would remember me.....Also, it would always capitalize the first letter of my e-mail address and the log on was case sensitive, so it would make me do it over.

I would suggest that once the league and their teams figure out all the glitches, they pick a weekend that all the teams are playing and offer "free access" to all the games. Hopefully people who are on the fence will check it out and afterwards, sign up. It's kind of like a crack dealer on a school street corner giving out free samples. They get them hooked and they come back for more with cash in hand....
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10-07-2014 08:39 AM
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I was a bronco insider subscriber so I got the email with the login for NCHC.tv. Otherwise I don't know if I'd sign up yet....

According to whoever was working the live chat for the Toronto game, WMU's broadcast will be in HD when it is working the way it is supposed to. Why wasn't it working that way? I have no idea.... Hopefully they get it sorted out before the next game.

Also the highlights do not work for the WMU game
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(10-07-2014 01:29 PM)Ubish Wrote:  I was a bronco insider subscriber so I got the email with the login for NCHC.tv. Otherwise I don't know if I'd sign up yet....

According to whoever was working the live chat for the Toronto game, WMU's broadcast will be in HD when it is working the way it is supposed to. Why wasn't it working that way? I have no idea.... Hopefully they get it sorted out before the next game.

Also the highlights do not work for the WMU game

Highlights are working on mine, maybe check it out again

Murray's presser on Mon has been added. Man I swear he has been reading my posts 03-thumbsup, either that or I really do understand the way the man thinks....
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Thought I'd bump this thread back up to the top to see if maybe....someone for WMU is reading it.

We really need to figure out the technical issues with our hockey broadcast. I can't not believe this has been this hard to figure out.

Poor Video Quality/Audio Problems:

It's would also be great to if someone from WMU would let the "paying" fans know just what is the problem and specifically, what are they doing to solve these issues? Is it equipment? Hard ware, software, servers, cameras, video/audio connections, etc...Or is it people, meaning, you don't what is wrong and what you need to do to fix it? Can we hire a consultant to come in a trouble shoot? Why can't these problems be fixed and tested before the game? I'm sure NCHC would work with us broadcasting a live interview next week as a "test" to figure out if everything has been fixed.

Camera Man Operator

Whom every was running the center ice/main camera on Fri day night really doesn't
know what they are doing. If you are going to have novice people do this, they need to be given some instruction before they get behind the camera. Again, this is simple stuff, video 101.

Video High lights

I enjoyed watching the highlights.Not sure "whom" is making the video cuts, wether it is a NCHC league produce high light or it is a WMU produced high light. If it is WMU, please show a little more of what lead up to the clip. For example, there was a clip of the Hargrove goal that was waived off (critical no goal) as a result of a penalty on Pitt for cross checking. But you didn't show enough of the clip to see if Pitt did or did not cross check the guy.


I'm proud of the WMU hockey program, their players,staff and fans. I want other to see this so they can enjoy what I know this program is all about. But this video/audio issues is actually very embarrassing and truly a image program for not only the hockey program, but also the University

Why is this a image problem for the University? They are "teaching" institution, educating, training and preparing students to obtain employment in a a field of choice. Yet the university can not figure out "how" to fix these problems?

Honestly, I can tell you that my sons local high school hockey program does a better job streaming their hockey broad cast than the Bronco's are doing right now. They have student run the cameras (4) they have students doing the play by play and color commentator. They have students doing all the other technical stuff. They set up and produce shows both home and away. I have never seen the problems with their production that I have seen with the Bronco Hockey production.

I'm sorry to be such a nag, but this is really, really bad
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Agree. I'm really sad it's this bad for so long.
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Thought I'd bump this thread back up as we are still are having a lot of technical problems with out broadcast productions:

1) Audio still lags video 10-15 seconds (chronic problem IMO)

2) Camera Operators (better, but center operator still is all over the place)

3) Center rink camera video resolution (other cameras resolution in sooooo much better, why?)

Other fans on their forums are taking notice of our broadcast issues
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Thanks for bumping it....but won't do any good! I filed a comment on Friday's game blog....it was not posted for all to see. I did get a private response...giving me a place to file a complaint. Whoopee! Complaints ought to be filed with the NCHC as that is where we paid our money! I tell you....the entire crew....the information director, the blogger and the radio link all should be fired!!!! Start over with the right people....dump the radio link used for the broadcast and hire a separate play-by-play for just the computer broadcast! The delay seems to be caused by trying to link in the radio broadcast. See you noted that others from other teams have commented and we are probably the laughing stock of the league. Good old "bush league" Western Michigan! You know...maybe some of the other posters are right....we don't belong in a premier league! What a rotten mess!
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I think there are some from WMU who may be reading this and my hope that one is Andy Murray, as these broadcast productions can have a positive or negative impact on the programs recruiting efforts
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(11-17-2014 09:30 AM)BroncoDetroit Wrote:  Thanks for bumping it....but won't do any good! I filed a comment on Friday's game blog....it was not posted for all to see. I did get a private response...giving me a place to file a complaint. Whoopee! Complaints ought to be filed with the NCHC as that is where we paid our money! I tell you....the entire crew....the information director, the blogger and the radio link all should be fired!!!! Start over with the right people....dump the radio link used for the broadcast and hire a separate play-by-play for just the computer broadcast! The delay seems to be caused by trying to link in the radio broadcast. See you noted that others from other teams have commented and we are probably the laughing stock of the league. Good old "bush league" Western Michigan! You know...maybe some of the other posters are right....we don't belong in a premier league! What a rotten mess!

Could you provide us with that link?
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Compared to everyone else we look like ass in production. How embarrassing
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People need to remember the whole athletic department is severely understaffed, and in a lot of cases don't have the qualified people they need to run these sorts of things properly. I'm not trying to make excuses for them, but I think the ones left "picking up the pieces" are doing the best they can. I forget what's holding the athletic department back from hiring people right now exactly, but they need to figure it out ASAP and give some of these people some support. Because ultimately, the staff and us fans are the ones who ultimately suffer.

I know... cue the forthcoming verbal beat-down. 01-lauramac2 05-duck
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(11-17-2014 12:42 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  People need to remember the whole athletic department is severely understaffed, and in a lot of cases don't have the qualified people they need to run these sorts of things properly. I'm not trying to make excuses for them, but I think the ones left "picking up the pieces" are doing the best they can. I forget what's holding the athletic department back from hiring people right now exactly, but they need to figure it out ASAP and give some of these people some support. Because ultimately, the staff and us fans are the ones who ultimately suffer.

I know... cue the forthcoming verbal beat-down. 01-lauramac2 05-duck

IMO, I'm very much in the dark about the "why", but most of the broadcast issues appear to be more technical in nature and not really a staffing issue.
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(11-17-2014 01:09 PM)BroncoFever Wrote:  
(11-17-2014 12:42 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  People need to remember the whole athletic department is severely understaffed, and in a lot of cases don't have the qualified people they need to run these sorts of things properly. I'm not trying to make excuses for them, but I think the ones left "picking up the pieces" are doing the best they can. I forget what's holding the athletic department back from hiring people right now exactly, but they need to figure it out ASAP and give some of these people some support. Because ultimately, the staff and us fans are the ones who ultimately suffer.

I know... cue the forthcoming verbal beat-down. 01-lauramac2 05-duck

IMO, I'm very much in the dark about the "why", but most of the broadcast issues appear to be more technical in nature and not really a staffing issue.

Technical issues are people issues. People who don't know how to use the equipment, people who didn't install the infrastructure properly, camera ops getting substandard training, etc.
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Get some high school kids to do it
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