(10-10-2014 10:53 AM)3601 Wrote:  Are people really arguing that the State job is as good as the Florida job?

Im saying the facilities are on par (brand new football only facility), the fans are just as fanatic (new expanded stadium, sellouts, the junction, etc), the University commitment is there, they have the money to pay a top coach.

State has closed the gap with the rest of the SEC. If you can't see that you're blind.

I patiently await your nostradamus bump post three years from now.

(10-10-2014 04:03 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(10-10-2014 10:53 AM)3601 Wrote:  Are people really arguing that the State job is as good as the Florida job?

Im saying the facilities are on par (brand new football only facility), the fans are just as fanatic (new expanded stadium, sellouts, the junction, etc), the University commitment is there, they have the money to pay a top coach.

State has closed the gap with the rest of the SEC. If you can't see that you're blind.

I patiently await your nostradamus bump post three years from now.

That's just not true.

(10-10-2014 04:05 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(10-10-2014 04:03 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(10-10-2014 10:53 AM)3601 Wrote:  Are people really arguing that the State job is as good as the Florida job?

Im saying the facilities are on par (brand new football only facility), the fans are just as fanatic (new expanded stadium, sellouts, the junction, etc), the University commitment is there, they have the money to pay a top coach.

State has closed the gap with the rest of the SEC. If you can't see that you're blind.

I patiently await your nostradamus bump post three years from now.

That's just not true.

In the aspects above that quote that I stated they most certainly have.

You're just spouting off.

(10-10-2014 10:37 AM)Rob Wrote:  

(10-10-2014 10:14 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  Mullen gets Dak back next year and basically the entire team. They'll be just as good next year. The football culture in Starkville has changed. I just dont see Mullen jumping ship. State can equal pay to match any offer.

I think he will/should jump at the Florida job. At State, Mullen has never finished in the top 25 in recruiting ranking(rivals). Florida is a recruiting hotbed, and playing in the comparatively weak East division offers a chance at a quick turnaround. As good as Mullen has been, he's never had a winning SEC record. They're off to a great start but I don't think it would shock anyone if they lost to Auburn, @Bama and @Ole Miss. Just a brutal slate of games. Florida, in my opinion, offers a higher ceiling when you consider recruiting and competition.

(10-10-2014 04:09 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(10-10-2014 10:37 AM)Rob Wrote:  

(10-10-2014 10:14 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  Mullen gets Dak back next year and basically the entire team. They'll be just as good next year. The football culture in Starkville has changed. I just dont see Mullen jumping ship. State can equal pay to match any offer.

I think he will/should jump at the Florida job. At State, Mullen has never finished in the top 25 in recruiting ranking(rivals). Florida is a recruiting hotbed, and playing in the comparatively weak East division offers a chance at a quick turnaround. As good as Mullen has been, he's never had a winning SEC record. They're off to a great start but I don't think it would shock anyone if they lost to Auburn, @Bama and @Ole Miss. Just a brutal slate of games. Florida, in my opinion, offers a higher ceiling when you consider recruiting and competition.

Higher tha giraffe *****.

Two top ten teams already brutal. W's

(10-10-2014 04:08 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(10-10-2014 04:05 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(10-10-2014 04:03 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(10-10-2014 10:53 AM)3601 Wrote:  Are people really arguing that the State job is as good as the Florida job?

Im saying the facilities are on par (brand new football only facility), the fans are just as fanatic (new expanded stadium, sellouts, the junction, etc), the University commitment is there, they have the money to pay a top coach.

State has closed the gap with the rest of the SEC. If you can't see that you're blind.

I patiently await your nostradamus bump post three years from now.

That's just not true.

In the aspects above that quote that I stated they most certainly have.

You're just spouting off.

Starting to wonder when the last time folks were at Starkville. I've been there a couple of times in the last few years and they've really taken it up a notch in terms of the campus and stadium. I had to stay at a hotel two towns over.

I didn't say they weren't a good team, but to say based on 2 wins that they've closed the gap between them and the other West teams is silly. You're talking about teams that have been winning and competing for national titles while State has never been in that picture. I'm pulling for State and happy for their success but to be on the same level as the other West programs is going to take time. They've got a fine team this year capable of beating anyone.

(10-10-2014 07:12 AM)Bathtub Gin Wrote:  I bet freeze will be on lsu and floridas short list

I could see Freeze doing really well at either of those schools.

Good lord. It's Friday, go have a beer and chill out.

I could only dream that freeze would leave for another job. I would love it. Sadly, I don't think he will go anywhere until he is forced out

(10-10-2014 04:14 PM)Rob Wrote:  I didn't say they weren't a good team, but to say based on 2 wins that they've closed the gap between them and the other West teams is silly. You're talking about teams that have been winning and competing for national titles while State has never been in that picture. I'm pulling for State and happy for their success but to be on the same level as the other West programs is going to take time. They've got a fine team this year capable of beating anyone.

Two wins didn't close the gap... Hundreds of millions of investment dollars at both State and Ole Miss closed the gap. The wins this past weekend were just returns on those investments.

Sorry huts...but there is a lot off over reaction to the moment here.

BOTH Moo and Mississippi are mid level jobs. Period. Which does not mean they will not have some moments...as they are.

Perhaps coaches are specifically happy there, but neither is close to the LSUs or Michigans or Florida of the world. They are much closer to Texas Tech and NC State.

Mullen wants the UF job bad I am sure and will go after it if they ask for him....Miles Burned his bridge with Michigan last time around and will not be gone after this go around, You can think what you want but Michigan can get a big Name and will go after one, Harbaugh and few others higher on their list.....But to think Ole Miss and State are up with the top SEC jobs or UF, Alabama, UTK then that's is funny....Good programs having good year, but not in that top tier league.....The World Is Ours Memphis....

(10-10-2014 03:53 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-10-2014 03:14 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  I could see something like this...

Miles - Michigan
Patterson- LSU
Fuente - TCU
Mullen - UF
Hudspeth - MSU

There are a ton of big name OCs/DCs that would probably take a more serious look at Memphis this time around.

We can't afford to lose Fuente.

Odom to Memphis?

(10-10-2014 05:42 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Sorry huts...but there is a lot off over reaction to the moment here.

BOTH Moo and Mississippi are mid level jobs. Period. Which does not mean they will not have some moments...as they are.

Perhaps coaches are specifically happy there, but neither is close to the LSUs or Michigans or Florida of the world. They are much closer to Texas Tech and NC State.

Yup.
Brings up an interesting thought....Can a program make that leap and how? If not, then will Old Mrs always be Olé Miss and State, Moo U, and Memphis?....

(10-10-2014 08:30 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Does anybody recall the last time Memphis fans discussed losing a football coach, due to him being successful?

Uhhh nope

PAY THE MAN!!!!!

(10-10-2014 06:01 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  

(10-10-2014 05:42 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Sorry huts...but there is a lot off over reaction to the moment here.

BOTH Moo and Mississippi are mid level jobs. Period. Which does not mean they will not have some moments...as they are.

Perhaps coaches are specifically happy there, but neither is close to the LSUs or Michigans or Florida of the world. They are much closer to Texas Tech and NC State.

Yup.
Brings up an interesting thought....Can a program make that leap and how? If not, then will Old Mrs always be Olé Miss and State, Moo U, and Memphis?....

The tremendous amount of money and exposure the SEC receives levels the playing field for all of the programs. State and Ole Miss have invested heavily over the past decade and if they hold onto their coaches and maintain continuity, then certainly they can "make the leap". The SEC runs itself like the NFL, and in that league, parity rules. I think the same can be said for the SEC in 2014.

I went to Briarcrest and knew freeze pretty well. The man is a fraud and a prick. He has the state of Mississippi brainwashed if they think he won't leave. Mike slive wants his flagship sec brand schools to be back on top because that produces more tv revenue and a successful Mississippi school will never bring in the revenue they want. Slive is way too powerful and will see to it his big brands stay relevant.

(10-10-2014 08:48 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-10-2014 08:30 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Does anybody recall the last time Memphis fans discussed losing a football coach, due to him being successful?

Oh, we've had some awfully bad ones come through here.

Has there ever been a fired Memphis coach move on and become a successful HC at another school? A couple have had decent stints as coordinators at other schools after Memphis... namely Williamson and Stobart... but most have just fallen into football oblivion. Its hard to believe we've had so many bad coaches, but its also hard to believe the commitment to football has been so lax. It takes work to be as bad as we've been.

Williamson - No
Dempsey - No
Dockery -
Bailey - might be the only former Memphis coach to become a HC at another D1 school
Stobart - No
Scherer - No
West - No
Porter - No

Actually, Pancoast left and went to Vandy, but he's the only HC who left here as a successful coach.