They look terrible but a decent QB would really help.
Gardner holds onto the ball to long and turns it over to much.
He is a smart kid who has already graduated but does not have good QB instincts.
The spread helped him because the QB has less options and time to think.
I believe Brady Hoke is a decent coach but made a mistake thinking he is a pro style QB. Also Hoke would have been better off starting off with Morris and Speights as the back up and recruiting a JC back up.

The four teams who have beat Michigan have three losses.
Playing a little tempo and spread option helped Gardner against Rutgers.
More spread option should be used as long as Gardner is the QB.
I believe if Hoke took over for Carr the streak of winning seasons would be intact.
The offensive line would not be so young and QB depth would be better.

I would give him another year unless Harbaugh signs a contract.
I did not want Rodriguize fired I thought he needed one more year.
Hoke deserves more credit because he worked with what he had in my opinion.
Neither inherited a roster that fit their style .
Imagine Denard Robinson playing in a pro style offense 3-9 would have been a good record.

1. The painful part of this season is the reaffirming just how bad UM screwed up the rich rod tenure. he easily could have made UM a national caliber program

2. but no matter what happened with rich rod his tenure was doomed to fail from the get go and no additional year would have fixed that.

3. I do not want brandon or hoke to be at AA for one more hour.

-Hoke's handling of the morris concussion is completely inexcusable. I don't care how many wins/loses a coach has. What we know about CTE and brain injuries makes this an offense that warrants instant termination. It's not 1960, it's not 1990, it's not even 2006. it's two thousand and motherf****ing fourteen where we have stories of ex gridiron greats shooting themselves in the chest well ingrained in our memory. there is no excuse for not knowing this. the game has to change and the only way to stop coaches like hoke from doing what he did is to set a precedent that it will not be tolerated. which reminds me

-brandon wasn't well liked even before this incident due to his mistreatment of UM fans and the fiasco with student attendance. he is living proof that corporate america CEOs should stay being CEOs and are not these magical gods that can run high political offices or major athletic programs despite having zero experience in those fields. but seriously, if there is anything in sports management that pisses me off it is guys trying to hide their obvious f*** ups by insisting they are correct and the fans are wrong (see NFL replacement refs). it's insulting when they do it because they believe the fans are legitimately dumb enough to buy that crap. for the michigan athletic department to for over 48 hours insist not only that shane morris wasn't concussed, but to say that he only had an ankle injury and not make any mention of a head injury is about as f***ed up as it gets. not to mention his 52 hour disappearance, back to back 1 am press releases, field hockey tweets and the straight up lie's to the media.

4. this fiasco legitimately scares me about what's going behind the scenes at michigan. hoke stated in the first two days after the game that morris would practice/play if not for an ankle injury ==> so does that mean he is trying to dodge the concussion dilemma or is he legitimately saying he'd still play this kid despite a concussion? one UM blogger is saying dave brandon even tried to get the concussion removed from the injury report altogether but was overruled by the medical staff.

5. at this point I don't care if we win every game or lose every game for now on out until dumb & dumber get canned. these issues go well beyond football.

So you are a Michigan fan?
Brandon has made mistakes that can easily be corrected either by him or a successor. The facility upgrades he got done are huge going forward.

Hoke is not Brandon and Rich Rod caused his own problems.
He could have reassured Mallet he would run a pro style offense year one. Ran a conventional defense and won eight games like the year before. He didn't have to get the football team on probation (even if it was a joke) for the first time. Crying to the song You lift us up where we belong while holding hands at an alumni dinner.

The concussion issue is the responsibility of the medical staff.
The head coach is obviously supposed to be concerned but also paying attention to the rest of the game. The worst situation I ever seen a QB be placed in was RR year one. The poor QB got killed running the spread. He was a tough kid but slow like the slowest player on the field slow.

I still would have given Rodriguez another year .
I would not have hired him in the first place .
Once you commit to change you have to accept the growing pains. My opinion is those issues were caused by hiring Rich Rod. I remember Penn St having two QBs one ran the spread.
The other one came in and they played pro style. Galen Hall could do it why not Rodriguez?

The difference on how your coaching staff handled the Morris injury and how our coaching staff handled the Carroo injury was not lost on Rutgers fans. There were a bunch of comments about it on the other RU fan sites. If Hoke is to believed, he took Morris out and then put him right back in without knowing what the injury even was. Our staff took Carroo's helmet, tested him on the sidelines, brought him back to the locker room for more tests, cleared him, told K Flood that he was cleared, gave his helmet back and then let him back into the game.

UM has a big problem with personnel. Rich Rod came in and installed an option offense, but tried to run it with pro-set players. Now Hoke is trying to run a pro set offense with Rich Rod's option players. It can take three to five years to convert from one style to the other. So UM seems to have F'ed itself for about six to eight years.

(10-07-2014 08:13 PM)MJG Wrote:  So you are a Michigan fan?
Brandon has made mistakes that can easily be corrected either by him or a successor. The facility upgrades he got done are huge going forward.

Hoke is not Brandon and Rich Rod caused his own problems.
He could have reassured Mallet he would run a pro style offense year one. Ran a conventional defense and won eight games like the year before. He didn't have to get the football team on probation (even if it was a joke) for the first time. Crying to the song You lift us up where we belong while holding hands at an alumni dinner.

The concussion issue is the responsibility of the medical staff.
The head coach is obviously supposed to be concerned but also paying attention to the rest of the game. The worst situation I ever seen a QB be placed in was RR year one. The poor QB got killed running the spread. He was a tough kid but slow like the slowest player on the field slow.

I still would have given Rodriguez another year .
I would not have hired him in the first place .
Once you commit to change you have to accept the growing pains. My opinion is those issues were caused by hiring Rich Rod. I remember Penn St having two QBs one ran the spread.
The other one came in and they played pro style. Galen Hall could do it why not Rodriguez?

I think a lot of RRs failure was self inflicted based on his own decisions/personality. But the 3 & out book and his before & after UM record speaks volumes. there were huge mistakes on UMs part.

Brandon making mistakes is by far a massive understatement. this guy doesn't represent michigan values at all. he is notorious for treating UM fans like s*** in one on one conversations. I am a bit anxious for the FOIA requests on his email to come out. I really wanna see if the "noodle" & "go find another team" comments are real. at this point it's too little too late for dumber (aka dave) he was on such thin ice to begin with and his handling of this situation was the last straw. I would take any other AD at this point in time. UM football is at an all time low for fan happiness/participation. so no you can not in any way spin his tenure as a success.

lets talk about blaming the medical staff talking point.

1. do you really mean to tell me that hoke didn't see that hit when it was flagged, replayed on the video board, and had crowd boo's over it and he still didn't see it? the simple reality is that the best case scenario here is that hoke missed a targeting hit that 99% of FBS coaches would be immediately giving the ref an earful about an ejection. the best case scenario is that hoke was extremely incompetent on watching a hit that every other FBS coach would have seen.

even the freaking ref was asking UM for a TO rather than play morris

2. even if it was the medical staff it's still hokes responsibility. it's hokes job to look out for these players and there is absolutely no way you can play the ignorance card here. what happens to this team ultimately comes down to hoke. how a coach saying he needed the medical staff to tell him to take him out and couldn't see the concussion warning signs himself reaches a level of incompetence that would make even a D3 coach look bad.

3. even if you want to blame the medical staff it still leaves open the question of just how messed up the chain of command structure is with that team. to have no medical staff get involved shows that hoke is not properly dispersing power.

(10-08-2014 10:30 AM)john01992 Wrote:  lets talk about blaming the medical staff talking point.

1. do you really mean to tell me that hoke didn't see that hit when it was flagged, replayed on the video board, and had crowd boo's over it and he still didn't see it? the simple reality is that the best case scenario here is that hoke missed a targeting hit that 99% of FBS coaches would be immediately giving the ref an earful about an ejection. the best case scenario is that hoke was extremely incompetent on watching a hit that every other FBS coach would have seen.

even the freaking ref was asking UM for a TO rather than play morris

2. even if it was the medical staff it's still hokes responsibility. it's hokes job to look out for these players and there is absolutely no way you can play the ignorance card here. what happens to this team ultimately comes down to hoke. how a coach saying he needed the medical staff to tell him to take him out and couldn't see the concussion warning signs himself reaches a level of incompetence that would make even a D3 coach look bad.

3. even if you want to blame the medical staff it still leaves open the question of just how messed up the chain of command structure is with that team. to have no medical staff get involved shows that hoke is not properly dispersing power.

I think the bolded is the key point. The trainers/medical staff should have informed Hoke the Morris was undergoing concussion protocol. No one took Morris' helmet and he was allowed to return to the field.

(10-08-2014 10:01 AM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  The difference on how your coaching staff handled the Morris injury and how our coaching staff handled the Carroo injury was not lost on Rutgers fans. There were a bunch of comments about it on the other RU fan sites. If Hoke is to believed, he took Morris out and then put him right back in without knowing what the injury even was. Our staff took Carroo's helmet, tested him on the sidelines, brought him back to the locker room for more tests, cleared him, told K Flood that he was cleared, gave his helmet back and then let him back into the game.

UM has a big problem with personnel. Rich Rod came in and installed an option offense, but tried to run it with pro-set players. Now Hoke is trying to run a pro set offense with Rich Rod's option players. It can take three to five years to convert from one style to the other. So UM seems to have F'ed itself for about six to eight years.

I agree with with you flip flopping systems is the problem.
Also Hoke believing Gardner was accurate enough to run his system. The injury situation is also right the medical staff took his helmet not the coach. Hoke new he had an ankle injury he was limping. The game continues that is why medical staff are in charge of injuries. That and its their expertise it's how it is done.

I would run the spread with Gardner and pro style with any other QB.

(10-08-2014 10:30 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:13 PM)MJG Wrote:  So you are a Michigan fan?
Brandon has made mistakes that can easily be corrected either by him or a successor. The facility upgrades he got done are huge going forward.

Hoke is not Brandon and Rich Rod caused his own problems.
He could have reassured Mallet he would run a pro style offense year one. Ran a conventional defense and won eight games like the year before. He didn't have to get the football team on probation (even if it was a joke) for the first time. Crying to the song You lift us up where we belong while holding hands at an alumni dinner.

The concussion issue is the responsibility of the medical staff.
The head coach is obviously supposed to be concerned but also paying attention to the rest of the game. The worst situation I ever seen a QB be placed in was RR year one. The poor QB got killed running the spread. He was a tough kid but slow like the slowest player on the field slow.

I still would have given Rodriguez another year .
I would not have hired him in the first place .
Once you commit to change you have to accept the growing pains. My opinion is those issues were caused by hiring Rich Rod. I remember Penn St having two QBs one ran the spread.
The other one came in and they played pro style. Galen Hall could do it why not Rodriguez?

I think a lot of RRs failure was self inflicted based on his own decisions/personality. But the 3 & out book and his before & after UM record speaks volumes. there were huge mistakes on UMs part.

Brandon making mistakes is by far a massive understatement. this guy doesn't represent michigan values at all. he is notorious for treating UM fans like s*** in one on one conversations. I am a bit anxious for the FOIA requests on his email to come out. I really wanna see if the "noodle" & "go find another team" comments are real. at this point it's too little too late for dumber (aka dave) he was on such thin ice to begin with and his handling of this situation was the last straw. I would take any other AD at this point in time. UM football is at an all time low for fan happiness/participation. so no you can not in any way spin his tenure as a success.

lets talk about blaming the medical staff talking point.

1. do you really mean to tell me that hoke didn't see that hit when it was flagged, replayed on the video board, and had crowd boo's over it and he still didn't see it? the simple reality is that the best case scenario here is that hoke missed a targeting hit that 99% of FBS coaches would be immediately giving the ref an earful about an ejection. the best case scenario is that hoke was extremely incompetent on watching a hit that every other FBS coach would have seen.

even the freaking ref was asking UM for a TO rather than play morris

2. even if it was the medical staff it's still hokes responsibility. it's hokes job to look out for these players and there is absolutely no way you can play the ignorance card here. what happens to this team ultimately comes down to hoke. how a coach saying he needed the medical staff to tell him to take him out and couldn't see the concussion warning signs himself reaches a level of incompetence that would make even a D3 coach look bad.

3. even if you want to blame the medical staff it still leaves open the question of just how messed up the chain of command structure is with that team. to have no medical staff get involved shows that hoke is not properly dispersing power.

What failure? See I hear this and don't see how it's true. RR improved Michigan's record every single year he was the coach, and I personally have no doubt he would have won big in year 4 but he wasn't given a year 4. He inherited a bare cupboard, improved them every year, and left Hoke with a full cupboard that he rode to an 11-2 record after he left. RR should have never been fired, period.

(10-08-2014 02:48 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 10:30 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:13 PM)MJG Wrote:  So you are a Michigan fan?
Brandon has made mistakes that can easily be corrected either by him or a successor. The facility upgrades he got done are huge going forward.

Hoke is not Brandon and Rich Rod caused his own problems.
He could have reassured Mallet he would run a pro style offense year one. Ran a conventional defense and won eight games like the year before. He didn't have to get the football team on probation (even if it was a joke) for the first time. Crying to the song You lift us up where we belong while holding hands at an alumni dinner.

The concussion issue is the responsibility of the medical staff.
The head coach is obviously supposed to be concerned but also paying attention to the rest of the game. The worst situation I ever seen a QB be placed in was RR year one. The poor QB got killed running the spread. He was a tough kid but slow like the slowest player on the field slow.

I still would have given Rodriguez another year .
I would not have hired him in the first place .
Once you commit to change you have to accept the growing pains. My opinion is those issues were caused by hiring Rich Rod. I remember Penn St having two QBs one ran the spread.
The other one came in and they played pro style. Galen Hall could do it why not Rodriguez?

I think a lot of RRs failure was self inflicted based on his own decisions/personality. But the 3 & out book and his before & after UM record speaks volumes. there were huge mistakes on UMs part.

Brandon making mistakes is by far a massive understatement. this guy doesn't represent michigan values at all. he is notorious for treating UM fans like s*** in one on one conversations. I am a bit anxious for the FOIA requests on his email to come out. I really wanna see if the "noodle" & "go find another team" comments are real. at this point it's too little too late for dumber (aka dave) he was on such thin ice to begin with and his handling of this situation was the last straw. I would take any other AD at this point in time. UM football is at an all time low for fan happiness/participation. so no you can not in any way spin his tenure as a success.

lets talk about blaming the medical staff talking point.

1. do you really mean to tell me that hoke didn't see that hit when it was flagged, replayed on the video board, and had crowd boo's over it and he still didn't see it? the simple reality is that the best case scenario here is that hoke missed a targeting hit that 99% of FBS coaches would be immediately giving the ref an earful about an ejection. the best case scenario is that hoke was extremely incompetent on watching a hit that every other FBS coach would have seen.

even the freaking ref was asking UM for a TO rather than play morris

2. even if it was the medical staff it's still hokes responsibility. it's hokes job to look out for these players and there is absolutely no way you can play the ignorance card here. what happens to this team ultimately comes down to hoke. how a coach saying he needed the medical staff to tell him to take him out and couldn't see the concussion warning signs himself reaches a level of incompetence that would make even a D3 coach look bad.

3. even if you want to blame the medical staff it still leaves open the question of just how messed up the chain of command structure is with that team. to have no medical staff get involved shows that hoke is not properly dispersing power.

What failure? See I hear this and don't see how it's true. RR improved Michigan's record every single year he was the coach, and I personally have no doubt he would have won big in year 4 but he wasn't given a year 4. He inherited a bare cupboard, improved them every year, and left Hoke with a full cupboard that he rode to an 11-2 record after he left. RR should have never been fired, period.

the big failure IMO was that he didn't really blend in with Michigan and embrace UM values. Not being a Michigan man put him at a natural disadvantage, but he also helped add nails to the coffin by coming off as personally unlikeable in one on one conversations and public comments that weren't popular with UM fans such as "we will prepare for Ohio State during Ohio State week."

rich rod lost 6 of his final 8 games, so I really don't think you can say he was trending up at the time that he got canned. his record was stat padded with wins over weak teams. he won a total of 6 B10 games in his 3 seasons.

(10-08-2014 02:48 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 10:30 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:13 PM)MJG Wrote:  So you are a Michigan fan?
Brandon has made mistakes that can easily be corrected either by him or a successor. The facility upgrades he got done are huge going forward.

Hoke is not Brandon and Rich Rod caused his own problems.
He could have reassured Mallet he would run a pro style offense year one. Ran a conventional defense and won eight games like the year before. He didn't have to get the football team on probation (even if it was a joke) for the first time. Crying to the song You lift us up where we belong while holding hands at an alumni dinner.

The concussion issue is the responsibility of the medical staff.
The head coach is obviously supposed to be concerned but also paying attention to the rest of the game. The worst situation I ever seen a QB be placed in was RR year one. The poor QB got killed running the spread. He was a tough kid but slow like the slowest player on the field slow.

I still would have given Rodriguez another year .
I would not have hired him in the first place .
Once you commit to change you have to accept the growing pains. My opinion is those issues were caused by hiring Rich Rod. I remember Penn St having two QBs one ran the spread.
The other one came in and they played pro style. Galen Hall could do it why not Rodriguez?

I think a lot of RRs failure was self inflicted based on his own decisions/personality. But the 3 & out book and his before & after UM record speaks volumes. there were huge mistakes on UMs part.

Brandon making mistakes is by far a massive understatement. this guy doesn't represent michigan values at all. he is notorious for treating UM fans like s*** in one on one conversations. I am a bit anxious for the FOIA requests on his email to come out. I really wanna see if the "noodle" & "go find another team" comments are real. at this point it's too little too late for dumber (aka dave) he was on such thin ice to begin with and his handling of this situation was the last straw. I would take any other AD at this point in time. UM football is at an all time low for fan happiness/participation. so no you can not in any way spin his tenure as a success.

lets talk about blaming the medical staff talking point.

1. do you really mean to tell me that hoke didn't see that hit when it was flagged, replayed on the video board, and had crowd boo's over it and he still didn't see it? the simple reality is that the best case scenario here is that hoke missed a targeting hit that 99% of FBS coaches would be immediately giving the ref an earful about an ejection. the best case scenario is that hoke was extremely incompetent on watching a hit that every other FBS coach would have seen.

even the freaking ref was asking UM for a TO rather than play morris

2. even if it was the medical staff it's still hokes responsibility. it's hokes job to look out for these players and there is absolutely no way you can play the ignorance card here. what happens to this team ultimately comes down to hoke. how a coach saying he needed the medical staff to tell him to take him out and couldn't see the concussion warning signs himself reaches a level of incompetence that would make even a D3 coach look bad.

3. even if you want to blame the medical staff it still leaves open the question of just how messed up the chain of command structure is with that team. to have no medical staff get involved shows that hoke is not properly dispersing power.

What failure? See I hear this and don't see how it's true. RR improved Michigan's record every single year he was the coach, and I personally have no doubt he would have won big in year 4 but he wasn't given a year 4. He inherited a bare cupboard, improved them every year, and left Hoke with a full cupboard that he rode to an 11-2 record after he left. RR should have never been fired, period.

Except for having the first losing season in over forty years.
The team beating Florida in a bowl game Tebows last game Carr's last game.
Getting the football team on probation which had never been investigated. That and the defense never improving I guess it is true.
Hoke using Rodriguez offense and hiring Mattison to fix the defense is what won the Sugar Bowl. Rich Rod might have improved to 8-5 or 9-4.

RR was left with the barest of bare cupboards when he took over. Anyone can see that. He left Hoke with a stocked cupboard which Hoke won with his first year, but has squandered away since. RR should have never been fired. And what's this "didn't blend in with Michigan or UM values" about? In what way? What was he supposed to do to show he was a "Michigan man" or had "Michigan values", whatever those are? So he didn't talk up Ohio State year 'round? Now he doesn't have Michigan values or is a Michigan man. Come on.

(10-08-2014 03:20 PM)MJG Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 02:48 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 10:30 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:13 PM)MJG Wrote:  So you are a Michigan fan?
Brandon has made mistakes that can easily be corrected either by him or a successor. The facility upgrades he got done are huge going forward.

Hoke is not Brandon and Rich Rod caused his own problems.
He could have reassured Mallet he would run a pro style offense year one. Ran a conventional defense and won eight games like the year before. He didn't have to get the football team on probation (even if it was a joke) for the first time. Crying to the song You lift us up where we belong while holding hands at an alumni dinner.

The concussion issue is the responsibility of the medical staff.
The head coach is obviously supposed to be concerned but also paying attention to the rest of the game. The worst situation I ever seen a QB be placed in was RR year one. The poor QB got killed running the spread. He was a tough kid but slow like the slowest player on the field slow.

I still would have given Rodriguez another year .
I would not have hired him in the first place .
Once you commit to change you have to accept the growing pains. My opinion is those issues were caused by hiring Rich Rod. I remember Penn St having two QBs one ran the spread.
The other one came in and they played pro style. Galen Hall could do it why not Rodriguez?

I think a lot of RRs failure was self inflicted based on his own decisions/personality. But the 3 & out book and his before & after UM record speaks volumes. there were huge mistakes on UMs part.

Brandon making mistakes is by far a massive understatement. this guy doesn't represent michigan values at all. he is notorious for treating UM fans like s*** in one on one conversations. I am a bit anxious for the FOIA requests on his email to come out. I really wanna see if the "noodle" & "go find another team" comments are real. at this point it's too little too late for dumber (aka dave) he was on such thin ice to begin with and his handling of this situation was the last straw. I would take any other AD at this point in time. UM football is at an all time low for fan happiness/participation. so no you can not in any way spin his tenure as a success.

lets talk about blaming the medical staff talking point.

1. do you really mean to tell me that hoke didn't see that hit when it was flagged, replayed on the video board, and had crowd boo's over it and he still didn't see it? the simple reality is that the best case scenario here is that hoke missed a targeting hit that 99% of FBS coaches would be immediately giving the ref an earful about an ejection. the best case scenario is that hoke was extremely incompetent on watching a hit that every other FBS coach would have seen.

even the freaking ref was asking UM for a TO rather than play morris

2. even if it was the medical staff it's still hokes responsibility. it's hokes job to look out for these players and there is absolutely no way you can play the ignorance card here. what happens to this team ultimately comes down to hoke. how a coach saying he needed the medical staff to tell him to take him out and couldn't see the concussion warning signs himself reaches a level of incompetence that would make even a D3 coach look bad.

3. even if you want to blame the medical staff it still leaves open the question of just how messed up the chain of command structure is with that team. to have no medical staff get involved shows that hoke is not properly dispersing power.

What failure? See I hear this and don't see how it's true. RR improved Michigan's record every single year he was the coach, and I personally have no doubt he would have won big in year 4 but he wasn't given a year 4. He inherited a bare cupboard, improved them every year, and left Hoke with a full cupboard that he rode to an 11-2 record after he left. RR should have never been fired, period.

Except for having the first losing season in over forty years.
The team beating Florida in a bowl game Tebows last game Carr's last game.
Getting the football team on probation which had never been investigated. That and the defense never improving I guess it is true.
Hoke using Rodriguez offense and hiring Mattison to fix the defense is what won the Sugar Bowl. Rich Rod might have improved to 8-5 or 9-4.

I personally don't fault him for the probation, the defense, or that first season as entirely his fault.

(10-08-2014 03:56 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  RR was left with the barest of bare cupboards when he took over. Anyone can see that. He left Hoke with a stocked cupboard which Hoke won with his first year, but has squandered away since. RR should have never been fired. And what's this "didn't blend in with Michigan or UM values" about? In what way? What was he supposed to do to show he was a "Michigan man" or had "Michigan values", whatever those are? So he didn't talk up Ohio State year 'round? Now he doesn't have Michigan values or is a Michigan man. Come on.

Michigan fans talk about the OSU game as the biggest game of the season. he treated it as just another game which anyone with a bit of FB sense knows that won't roll over very well if you are the coach of OSU or UM. Ann Arbor cares about beating Ohio State, a Big Ten championship, and the rose bowl in that order. RR never really embraced that, but from day one hoke did which is why he was given so much more leeway by UM fans up until the morris issue.

it's hard enough not being a "michigan man," but to do it in the way that he did by being totally oblivious to the culture & traditionalism of UM is what ultimately doomed him.

sorry...I couldn't resist

The cupboard was bare?
They won their bowl game the last game before Rodriguez.
An NFL QB was on the roster.

(10-09-2014 06:13 AM)MJG Wrote:  The cupboard was bare?
They won their bowl game the last game before Rodriguez.
An NFL QB was on the roster.

Who? The guy that transferred to Arkansas? Sorry you can't count him, he left immediately. I remember the Michigan QB's being terrible Rich Rod's first year until he got Robinson in.

(10-09-2014 09:22 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(10-09-2014 06:13 AM)MJG Wrote:  The cupboard was bare?
They won their bowl game the last game before Rodriguez.
An NFL QB was on the roster.

Who? The guy that transferred to Arkansas? Sorry you can't count him, he left immediately. I remember the Michigan QB's being terrible Rich Rod's first year until he got Robinson in.

yeah, lets not give RR crap for not retaining mallet. I mean come on guys seriously?

Could this be the answer?



Note what he wanted to do "after graduation"!

RichRod more than had his chance. That first two years were utter disasters and the third year all that really had to be seen was overall progress. They got to the magical 6 wins to get a bowl trip, but looking at the results of the games didn't really paint any prettier picture than they'd see. They got blown out by the good teams they played and lost ended with a big loosing streak after starting out OK (like the year before). Things did not look that much up going forward.

(10-09-2014 09:36 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-09-2014 09:22 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(10-09-2014 06:13 AM)MJG Wrote:  The cupboard was bare?
They won their bowl game the last game before Rodriguez.
An NFL QB was on the roster.

Who? The guy that transferred to Arkansas? Sorry you can't count him, he left immediately. I remember the Michigan QB's being terrible Rich Rod's first year until he got Robinson in.

yeah, lets not give RR crap for not retaining mallet. I mean come on guys seriously?

Mallet left because Rich Rod was going to run the spread.
He would not promise Mallet that he would run a pro style offense. The terrible QBs that were left were not recruited to run the spread. That is partially why they struggled.