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(09-14-2014 01:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-14-2014 01:06 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(09-14-2014 12:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
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(09-14-2014 12:28 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Lol put children in prison? You are heartless

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Heartless? The parents of the children abandoned them and handed them to coyotes who raped them and some of the children didn't survive. Prison provides 3 squares and a roof, it's more than what their parents gave them.

Who's heartless?

So your compassionate solution for abandoned children is prison? Your wife must be proud.

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She is.

But you conveniently don't mention the other 12 million illegals who are here. Why?

And my compassion for the kids means to send them back and reunite them with their families just like Bill Clinton did with Elian Gonzalez.

So you want to put 12 million people in prison too? Do you even realize how much that would cost?

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But if it saves just one life, right? We pay taxes for security and if security means sending them back then that's what it means.

1) Keeping a sex slave for 18 months: POLICE in the US have arrested an illegal immigrant who allegedly imprisoned a 27-year-old woman as a sex slave in his booby-trapped home for 18 months…The New York Daily News reports that Oscar Ayala-Arizmendi, 36, has been charged with multiple rape, assault and drug possession charges after the woman escaped from his house outside Buhl, Idaho, and told authorities she had been repeatedly raped and abused.

The case is reminiscent of the notorious Cleveland House of Horrors case, in which Ariel Castro kept three women in vile conditions for years…Unlike Castro and his victims, the relationship between Ayala-Arizmendi and the unnamed woman appears to have started on a consensual basis, with her moving in to his house two years ago — however within six months the situation had degenerated to such an extent that he was locking her in his bedroom and forcing her to use a wastepaper basket as a toilet.



2) The illegal alien serial rapist: On Wednesday, U.S. Marshals brought Baltazar Gabriel Delgado-Ros, 28, back to Palm Beach County (Fla.) where he was wanted for the rape of five women.

DNA evidence has linked Delgado-Ros to all five rapes, according to investigators.

All the incidents took place between April 2009 through September 2011.

All of the rape victims were beaten and even bitten.



3) ) The illegal alien who murdered a woman driving him to the hospital: Meet 27-year-old Julio Miguel Blanco-Garcia. An illegal alien from Guatemala, he has lived and worked in Fairfax County, Va., for at least 11 years. The region is a notorious “sanctuary” for immigration law-breakers where elected officials and big business look the other way for cheap labor and cheap votes.

When he wasn’t working illegally as a construction worker in the government-fueled Boomtown ‘burb or getting himself high on drugs, Blanco-Garcia was building up a lengthy rap sheet.

...But it was too late for 19-year-old college freshman Vanessa Pham. In July 2010, the bubbly art student’s decision to be a Good Samaritan to open-borders beneficiary Blanco-Garcia cost her life. After getting her nails done at a Fairfax Plaza salon, she encountered the illegal alien and his infant daughter in the parking lot. Blanco-Garcia was strung out on $400 worth of PCP.

According to prosecutors, he asked Pham to take him to the hospital. She let the man and his baby into her car. When Pham took a wrong turn, Blanco-Garcia turned on her — stabbing her more than a dozen times with a knife he was carrying. She veered into a ditch; he coldly wiped her blood off of his hands with a baby wipe and clambered out of the sunroof with the child.



4) An illegal alien who molested a child and was paid 4 million dollars by Orange County, CA: On April 17, 2009, the Orange County Board of Supervisors agreed to pay $3.75 million, plus an additional $900,000 in medical expenses to an illegal alien who was severely beaten by other inmates in the Orange County Central Jail. The Mexican national filed a lawsuit shortly after the incident.

Fernando Ramirez, 24, was in jail after being charged with molesting a 6-year-old girl at a local park. He eventually pled guilty to the lesser charge of battery against a child.



5) An illegal immigrant rapist who had been deported 9 times: In this case a Mexican national with an extensive criminal record and nine deportation orders raped a woman in Edmonds, a picturesque waterfront town famous for its views of the Olympic Mountains rising above Puget Sound. The illegal immigrant (Jose Lopez Madrigal) was first deported in California more than two decades ago and has since been convicted of a multitude of violent crimes, including armed theft, sexual assault and drug-related offenses.

The crimes were committed in different states—California and Colorado among them—and Madrigal had a staggering number of encounters with law enforcement in the last two decades, according to the local news report that broke the story of his multiple deportations. When he got arrested this last time, it took authorities longer than usual to learn his real identity because he had well over two dozen aliases.

The level of incompetence among federal immigration authorities in this case would be comical if Madrigal’s crimes weren’t so heinous. After the first deportation in 1989 for using a firearm to commit theft, Madrigal got deported several more times in the next few years. In 1999 he was deported three times in a four-month period after drug-related arrests. After a similar offense in 2000 he got deported yet again and in 2002 he got deported after pleading guilty to sexual assault in Denver. In 2003 Madrigal got deported three more times.

It would seem like a huge joke if the illegal immigrant didn’t brutally rape a woman last week.



6) The illegal immigrant terrorist who planned to blow up Jewish synagogues: A Moroccan national (in the country illegally) who plotted to blow up Manhattan synagogues was sentenced to five years in prison Friday.

Mohamed Mamdouh, 22, copped to three crimes under state terror laws on Feb. 28 in exchange for a five year prison sentence, plus three years of post-release supervision.

Prosecutors said Mamdouh and "mastermind" Ahmed Ferhani -- busted on May 11, 2011 -- discussed dressing as observant Jews to infiltrate synagogues and tried to buy weapons to arm themselves for "the cause."

"His case has been about bringing to justice two men, angry at what they perceived as the unjust treatment of Muslims in the world, who spoke of their hatred for Jews, and plotted to attack synagogues in New York City using explosives," prosecutor Gary Galperin said at Mamdouh's sentencing.

"Their intent was to create chaos and to intimidate and coerce Jews living in New York City, and thereby send a message far beyond New York," he added. Ferhani at one point said he wanted to attack 10 synagogues.



7) A 13-year-old gang raped by illegal immigrants: A little 13 year old girl was gang raped by a bunch of illegal immigrants. She had run away from the Settlement Home For Children, only to find herself in a car with this gang of thugs who shouldn’t have been in our country in the first place. What ensued is horrific.

The teen victim tells police she was taken inside an apartment, where Ortega forced himself on her as the other men cheered him on, recording the assault on their cell phones. All the men took turns having sex with her against her will. A forensic exam revealed injuries consistent with her claims.

“It’s sad that we can’t even let our children go outside…or have them carry pepper spray or knives, at 13, that’s sad,” said Leticia Rodriguez, another resident at Avalon Palms, which has no security on site or functioning security cameras.

Rodriguez said, “They don’t even give us a note or something and say oh, this happened, please be careful with your kids and not let them go out. They don’t tell us nothing.”

The affidavit states the assault lasted until early into the morning of June 30, then the victim was driven to a nearby neighborhood and told to “find somewhere to go.”

...Only two of the men have been arrested, and are now reportedly being held on immigration detainers.

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Just put them in jail for 5 years for illegal crossing.
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I say we steal a chunk of Mexico's land, just south of the river and build a prison to house them all there.
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RebelKev Wrote:<a href='http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/opp-opp.pl?start=1869&end=2004&team1=Mississippi&team2=Southern+Mississippi' target='_blank'>For the USM Losers</a>


....and we're undefeated at that hellhole you call "the rock".
Well I guess so,I mean out of 24 games we only played 4 in Hattiesburg. Even you would have to give us a few more victory's we that home field advantage. We only played 1 in Hattiesburg since 1939,lol. Since I was born in 77' we are 5-2 against ya'll weak nuts.I don't count back in the 1800's and 20's 30's and such.5-2 against ya'll thats the bottom line and ya'll ran like little girl scouts.Yeah I would agree C-USA is in the bottom part of the strongest Comferences ,but it doesn't change the fact that we have won 4 C-USA titles.I bet you would not call Louisville weak after last year wopuld you,but they were in our Conferene.

You will never get anything over on me and your weak school, so stop trying.GO EAGLES!!!!!!!!

You still have not answered my ? about your predictions for ole missy and Southern Miss for this year///////////
Crossing illegally isn't even a felony

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That isn't a child.

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Guess we gave him a free airplane ticket and relocated him to an "unnamed"
destination with the USA. Our government people are clueless.
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The children are the cause of the most recent immigration talk.

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(09-14-2014 06:01 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  The children are the cause of the most recent immigration talk.

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Yeah, you lefties managed to change the subject.....again.
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Do you want immigration reform or not.

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(09-14-2014 07:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Do you want immigration reform or not.

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other than no enforcement, what's wrong with the system we have now?
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(09-14-2014 07:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Do you want immigration reform or not.

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other than no enforcement, what's wrong with the system we have now?

It makes otherwise law abiding citizens risk life and rape to get here.

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(09-14-2014 07:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-14-2014 07:17 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(09-14-2014 07:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Do you want immigration reform or not.

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other than no enforcement, what's wrong with the system we have now?

It makes otherwise law abiding citizens risk life and rape to get here.

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Then they shouldn't decide to become criminals and come here illegally. Problem solved.
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so you would be against making it easier to immigrate legally to this country? If so, why?

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(09-14-2014 09:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  so you would be against making it easier to immigrate legally to this country? If so, why?

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Yes, I would be against making it easier to immigrate to this country. Why would any sane person want to make it easier?

Foreigners don't have a right to come here. They can apply and if they're accepting we'll welcome them. But we want people to come here and contribute, not mooch off of us. And if we make it too easy then the people we really don't want to come here will come here and why would we want that?

We do not have the jobs to support all these illegals. That means in order to survive many of them will resort to crime. Why don't they take a page out of our history books and revolt against the government that's oppressing them thus making life easier for future generations of their people. Coming here does nothing to solve the problems of the shitholes they're escaping.
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We need to make it easier to come here legally at the same time we make it harder to come here illegally.

And we have to deal with the reality that there are millions who are already here illegally, who logically should not be entitled to benefit from their illegal acts, but realistically there is no place else to send them. Mexico cannot absorb them back without becoming overwhelmed, and anarchy on our southern border is the absolute last thing we need, particularly in an era where terrorism is our biggest threat.

So you give guest worker status to those already here, with no path to citizenship without waiting at least ten years, during which time they must keep their noses clean, learn English fluently, and demonstrate full allegiance to the US in order to start the citizenship clock rolling. And you vastly increase the number of green cards for those who would want to come here legally. And anchor baby only applies if parents are here legally.

The one thing this does accomplish is that we get them all into the system. We know who they are and where they are, and that much improves our ability to deal with issues like terrorism and to separate those who have a sincere interest in citizenship from those who don't. Also, once they are established legally and have standing before the law, a lot of the human rights abuses that are alleged to have happened become harder to sustain.
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(09-14-2014 07:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-14-2014 07:17 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(09-14-2014 07:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Do you want immigration reform or not.

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other than no enforcement, what's wrong with the system we have now?

It makes otherwise law abiding citizens risk life and rape to get here.

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The use of the words "law abiding and citizen" in your comment is offensive. They are neither. Somehow you miss this salient point....over...and... over...and...over...and...over.

I have no problem with allowing people to come in to America and working. They however can not be citizens without the due processes. They can be "guests" that work legally. As for the children? Even I support protecting them until they can be safely returned to their parents. They simply can not become citizens...period. There is no stipulation in the Constitution that allows it.
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If the illegals would spend as much time trying to overthrow Their Dictatorship leaders and reforming Their own Government as They do by coming across miles of Dangerous territory to illegally cross Our Borders,They could help stabilize Their own nations. That would be the patriotic Thing to do.
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(09-15-2014 02:21 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  We need to make it easier to come here legally at the same time we make it harder to come here illegally.

And we have to deal with the reality that there are millions who are already here illegally, who logically should not be entitled to benefit from their illegal acts, but realistically there is no place else to send them. Mexico cannot absorb them back without becoming overwhelmed, and anarchy on our southern border is the absolute last thing we need, particularly in an era where terrorism is our biggest threat.

So you give guest worker status to those already here, with no path to citizenship without waiting at least ten years, during which time they must keep their noses clean, learn English fluently, and demonstrate full allegiance to the US in order to start the citizenship clock rolling. And you vastly increase the number of green cards for those who would want to come here legally. And anchor baby only applies if parents are here legally.

The one thing this does accomplish is that we get them all into the system. We know who they are and where they are, and that much improves our ability to deal with issues like terrorism and to separate those who have a sincere interest in citizenship from those who don't. Also, once they are established legally and have standing before the law, a lot of the human rights abuses that are alleged to have happened become harder to sustain.

We allow more people to become citizens than any country on the planet.

You take away their ability to make money and Mexico will indeed absorb them.
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(09-15-2014 06:30 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  If the illegals would spend as much time trying to overthrow Their Dictatorship leaders and reforming Their own Government as They do by coming across miles of Dangerous territory to illegally cross Our Borders,They could help stabilize Their own nations. That would be the patriotic Thing to do.

They are a lot like liberals. They don't have the will or the know how to change their own homeland so they migrate to someone else s homeland and create the same problem.
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Maybe We should arm Them . Couldn't be any worse than......................Oh wait, We already did that with Fast & Furious !
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