yawn. this happens year after year. we have to earn it year after year (for that particular season, not the next)

We lost a lot of national credibility due to the last two games last year. Beating Northwestern and/or Arkansas AND winning the MACC is what we need this year to get that credibility back.

NU lost 7 of their last 8 and they still got votes (and that only win was against just a god awful Illinois), its a clear bias no doubt, but these polls are meaningless.

(08-17-2014 04:00 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 02:08 PM)armour248 Wrote:  Pretty sad that the entire MAC has zero votes.

Why? Who deserves votes? The league went 0-5 in 2013 bowl games. Everybody on here doesn't believe Toledo is better than the Huskies, many believe last year's Bowling Green win wasn't a true reflection of the two teams; the acknowledged powerhouse in the MAC (NIU) for the last few years has to find a replacement for a QB that finished third in the Heisman, replace a guy that might just be a starter for the 49ers; not to mention a defense that some would argue got shredded in its last two contests. So if the class of the MAC (NIU) has all these issues, then who in the league deserves votes right now?

More importantly, so what. We've got a coach, a team, and a majority of fans who would rather be ranked at the end of the year instead of going into it. No respect for NIU --- what else is new?

I wasn't saying that anyone deserves to be receiving votes, just pointing out that the MAC is horrible


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(08-17-2014 05:40 PM)armour248 Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 04:00 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 02:08 PM)armour248 Wrote:  Pretty sad that the entire MAC has zero votes.

Why? Who deserves votes? The league went 0-5 in 2013 bowl games. Everybody on here doesn't believe Toledo is better than the Huskies, many believe last year's Bowling Green win wasn't a true reflection of the two teams; the acknowledged powerhouse in the MAC (NIU) for the last few years has to find a replacement for a QB that finished third in the Heisman, replace a guy that might just be a starter for the 49ers; not to mention a defense that some would argue got shredded in its last two contests. So if the class of the MAC (NIU) has all these issues, then who in the league deserves votes right now?

More importantly, so what. We've got a coach, a team, and a majority of fans who would rather be ranked at the end of the year instead of going into it. No respect for NIU --- what else is new?

I wasn't saying that anyone deserves to be receiving votes, just pointing out that the MAC is horrible


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I think that's where a person can get into trouble by taking these polls as facts, just because the MAC has no ranked teams does not mean the MAC is horrible.

You guys realize polls mean nothing now, right? They're like college basketball polls.

(08-17-2014 04:03 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 04:00 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 02:08 PM)armour248 Wrote:  Pretty sad that the entire MAC has zero votes.

Why? Who deserves votes? The league went 0-5 in 2013 bowl games. Everybody on here doesn't believe Toledo is better than the Huskies, many believe last year's Bowling Green win wasn't a true reflection of the two teams; the acknowledged powerhouse in the MAC (NIU) for the last few years has to find a replacement for a QB that finished third in the Heisman, replace a guy that might just be a starter for the 49ers; not to mention a defense that some would argue got shredded in its last two contests. So if the class of the MAC (NIU) has all these issues, then who in the league deserves votes right now?

More importantly, so what. We've got a coach, a team, and a majority of fans who would rather be ranked at the end of the year instead of going into it. No respect for NIU --- what else is new?

BG definitely deserves votes this year, but there are a heap of teams on that list that don't deserve votes that got them. It is not even worth arguing this year, this poll has absolutely no meaning now, completely completely irrelevant.

Dude BG is being overhyped by the MAC. They're the best team right now, but the. MAC looks to be a down year. They beat NIU fair and square, and that was one of three wins over .500 or better opponents. They lost to every power conference team they played.

They lose some solid defenders as well. I also think Johnson is good but overhyped because the NIU win. Take that from his stats and they're not nearly all that good, he just happens to be the best QB because the west lost all theirs.

They will win the East, but I believe only Buffalo finishes above .500 in that division.

To be honest, they could finish 1-3 in non conference. They probably finish 2-2 maybe 3-1 but 1-3 is possible. No. MAC teams deserve a vote at the moment, it's just honesty.

(08-17-2014 06:39 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 04:03 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 04:00 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 02:08 PM)armour248 Wrote:  Pretty sad that the entire MAC has zero votes.

Why? Who deserves votes? The league went 0-5 in 2013 bowl games. Everybody on here doesn't believe Toledo is better than the Huskies, many believe last year's Bowling Green win wasn't a true reflection of the two teams; the acknowledged powerhouse in the MAC (NIU) for the last few years has to find a replacement for a QB that finished third in the Heisman, replace a guy that might just be a starter for the 49ers; not to mention a defense that some would argue got shredded in its last two contests. So if the class of the MAC (NIU) has all these issues, then who in the league deserves votes right now?

More importantly, so what. We've got a coach, a team, and a majority of fans who would rather be ranked at the end of the year instead of going into it. No respect for NIU --- what else is new?

BG definitely deserves votes this year, but there are a heap of teams on that list that don't deserve votes that got them. It is not even worth arguing this year, this poll has absolutely no meaning now, completely completely irrelevant.

Dude BG is being overhyped by the MAC. They're the best team right now, but the. MAC looks to be a down year. They beat NIU fair and square, and that was one of three wins over .500 or better opponents. They lost to every power conference team they played.

They lose some solid defenders as well. I also think Johnson is good but overhyped because the NIU win. Take that from his stats and they're not nearly all that good, he just happens to be the best QB because the west lost all theirs.

They will win the East, but I believe only Buffalo finishes above .500 in that division.

To be honest, they could finish 1-3 in non conference. They probably finish 2-2 maybe 3-1 but 1-3 is possible. No. MAC teams deserve a vote at the moment, it's just honesty.

Strongly disagree with BG, I think they deserve votes, but how come you don't hold the same standard for teams like NU, does a team that lost 7 of their last 8 deserve to get votes? Again not that any of this matters one bit, but don't lose sight of what the polls are, a P5 good ole boys network

Northwestern doesn't deserve votes either, there you happy.

But no BG is not a top 25 team right now,they may be at the end of the season. I think IU can beat them and I don't think IU goes bowling. They're going to get beat by Wisconsin.

Let's say they finish 10-2 or 9-3 at the end of the year, then they are a top 25 team. But let's be honest, if they don't annihilate the competition in the MAC with their schedule they're not deserving. You have to go 3-1 or better in non conference and then smoke the conference. I see 3 to 5 teams going .500 or better on their schedule, and they could lose to all of them.

They haven't beat a BCS team in awhile and they haven't beaten Toledo in like five years. Until they beat a power conference team and start smoking the MAC like NIU did the past few years, they're undeserving.

I think people forget NIU was killing the competition in 2010 through 2012 to get respect to get votes, they also beat. BCS teams, as did the 2003 Miami and early 2000s Marshall.

This is what you have to do to be ranked in the MAC.

(08-17-2014 02:43 PM)HuskieRak Wrote:  Worthless poll anyways

DING DING DING.

Shouldn't even happen. Polls shouldn't come out for at least a month into the season.

(08-17-2014 04:00 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 02:08 PM)armour248 Wrote:  Pretty sad that the entire MAC has zero votes.

Why? Who deserves votes? The league went 0-5 in 2013 bowl games. Everybody on here doesn't believe Toledo is better than the Huskies, many believe last year's Bowling Green win wasn't a true reflection of the two teams; the acknowledged powerhouse in the MAC (NIU) for the last few years has to find a replacement for a QB that finished third in the Heisman, replace a guy that might just be a starter for the 49ers; not to mention a defense that some would argue got shredded in its last two contests. So if the class of the MAC (NIU) has all these issues, then who in the league deserves votes right now?

More importantly, so what. We've got a coach, a team, and a majority of fans who would rather be ranked at the end of the year instead of going into it. No respect for NIU --- what else is new?

Oh. My. Gods. Logic!

Loved Frazier's tweet. He is fired up!

Polls may not mean anything but the average fan notices them. If, NIU was ranked in the top 25 athletics and fans would be pointing it out every chance they got!

(08-17-2014 10:22 PM)dekalb222 Wrote:  Polls may not mean anything but the average fan notices them. If, NIU was ranked in the top 25 athletics and fans would be pointing it out every chance they got!

That might be true but the undeniable fact is that these polls are tilted against the non-P5 teams, no question about that. Thus, they aren't very accurate

(08-17-2014 11:39 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 10:22 PM)dekalb222 Wrote:  Polls may not mean anything but the average fan notices them. If, NIU was ranked in the top 25 athletics and fans would be pointing it out every chance they got!

That might be true but the undeniable fact is that these polls are tilted against the non-P5 teams, no question about that. Thus, they aren't very accurate

Where do you rank the Huskies and BGSU?

(08-17-2014 11:48 PM)Enaiu Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 11:39 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 10:22 PM)dekalb222 Wrote:  Polls may not mean anything but the average fan notices them. If, NIU was ranked in the top 25 athletics and fans would be pointing it out every chance they got!

That might be true but the undeniable fact is that these polls are tilted against the non-P5 teams, no question about that. Thus, they aren't very accurate

Where do you rank the Huskies and BGSU?

Not real important where I rank them, I don't think NIU deserves to be ranked though, but with that many pollsters, BG should have some votes, especially in light of some of the other teams that got votes. If NU gets votes, BG should get votes, no doubt. This year though, it truly is meaningless so its a pointless discussion. Polls mean zero

(08-17-2014 11:59 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 11:48 PM)Enaiu Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 11:39 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 10:22 PM)dekalb222 Wrote:  Polls may not mean anything but the average fan notices them. If, NIU was ranked in the top 25 athletics and fans would be pointing it out every chance they got!

That might be true but the undeniable fact is that these polls are tilted against the non-P5 teams, no question about that. Thus, they aren't very accurate

Where do you rank the Huskies and BGSU?

Not real important where I rank them, I don't think NIU deserves to be ranked though, but with that many pollsters, BG should have some votes, especially in light of some of the other teams that got votes. If NU gets votes, BG should get votes, no doubt. This year though, it truly is meaningless so its a pointless discussion. Polls mean zero

I can agree that BG definitely deserves at least one vote. I could maybe see NIU having one, but I think that at this point it doesn't really matter. We usually have to prove ourselves anyway and typically don't have a problem doing that.

(08-18-2014 12:02 AM)Enaiu Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 11:59 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 11:48 PM)Enaiu Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 11:39 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 10:22 PM)dekalb222 Wrote:  Polls may not mean anything but the average fan notices them. If, NIU was ranked in the top 25 athletics and fans would be pointing it out every chance they got!

That might be true but the undeniable fact is that these polls are tilted against the non-P5 teams, no question about that. Thus, they aren't very accurate

Where do you rank the Huskies and BGSU?

Not real important where I rank them, I don't think NIU deserves to be ranked though, but with that many pollsters, BG should have some votes, especially in light of some of the other teams that got votes. If NU gets votes, BG should get votes, no doubt. This year though, it truly is meaningless so its a pointless discussion. Polls mean zero

I can agree that BG definitely deserves at least one vote. I could maybe see NIU having one, but I think that at this point it doesn't really matter. We usually have to prove ourselves anyway and typically don't have a problem doing that.

Yes and I wasn't so focused on the MAC, its just the trend we have seen the past 2 or 3 years where a good 30-50 percent of pollsters wont vote for non-power conference teams.

BG will get some votes when they beat wisco.....

(08-18-2014 08:22 AM)Turner4Heisman Wrote:  BG will get some votes when they beat wisco.....

You're talking about the same team that lost to Indiana, Toledo, and a mediocre Pitt team in their bowl? Yeah, not gonna happen.