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RE: CUSA Finished With Expansion
Integrating Idaho would be a good move. Idaho is really one of the better schools with the most potential in the SBC.
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RE: CUSA Finished With Expansion
(07-28-2014 08:07 PM)MSUBear42 Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 03:42 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 12:07 PM)panite Wrote:  
(07-25-2014 07:07 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  
(07-25-2014 07:04 AM)GeauxUL Wrote:  I hope you really don't believe that. And if the SBC could take on Missouri state and JMU which puts us at 14, I sure hope they do it.

If MoSt and JMU accepted, we would be at 13 at which time Idaho would be dropped to get us to the magic number of 12. The key now is to have solid football programs that help you rank higher in the payout and can potentially reap the financial windfall of the top G5 program selected in the bowl.

If the Sunbelt drops Idaho they can be the travel partner with BYU to the AAC for FB only when BYU joins that conference. Or they can join the MWC with BYU if Thompson can out sell Aresco again like he did when he held on to Boise and SDSU. 07-coffee3

I can make a case for JMU based on their success at the FCS level, their attendance and the size of their athletic budget. They have a solid FCS football program and seem ready to make the move.

But if the key is "to have solid programs that help you rank higher in the payout", then I don't see how Missouri State accomplishes that. They struggle at the FCS level.

Idaho is here through 2017. If they win in the Sun Belt, they will stay. If they lose and there is a solid FCS candidate available, then they could be gone. But the AAC would not be interested in Idaho at all and Idaho brings nothing to the MWC that they need. No market, no decent basketball program, not even a baseball program. If the SBC ever decided to ask Idaho to leave because of poor performance, no other league is going to accept them.

We may struggle at FCS, but we've also NEVER invested in football like we are right now. Hopefully the results follow.

Yes, If Missouri State wants to move up, the onus is on them to show it in the next couple of years. If they do that, the votes are there to invite.
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RE: CUSA Finished With Expansion
(07-27-2014 02:30 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 01:34 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 01:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(07-25-2014 12:57 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(07-25-2014 12:52 PM)rknj8993 Wrote:  You said that JMU and UD would be options for them. Yes, this is true, but why would they want to choose two FCS transition programs over two already-FBS programs? Why would they want to add two new programs, at all? That's my point.

Why did they choose Charlotte, who had no football team yet, over UL or stAte or WKU? Why did the AAC choose Tulane? Why was ODU chosen over stAte and UL? Why did they choose LaTech over UL which has a bigger market? They had their reasons and they weren't the ones everyone necessarily expected.

People insist they know what conferences are going to do in conference realignment and they don't.

Tulane has the market (New Orleans), budget (over 30 million), endowment (over 1 billion), and academics to be included in the AAC.

Moreover, they're building this:
[Image: 10511652_736252086440143_1600886747036227602_o.jpg]

the stadium looks nice but for as much money as they spent on it you would think they could've gotten it a little bigger

75 million isn't that much, and 27,000 (plus 3,000 SRO) is perfect size for Tulane...notice how the stadium backs right up to neighboring houses.

Check you facts, its actually now 23,000 seats. But hey, that's big time football!
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RE: CUSA Finished With Expansion
(07-28-2014 10:08 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 02:30 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 01:34 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 01:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(07-25-2014 12:57 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Why did they choose Charlotte, who had no football team yet, over UL or stAte or WKU? Why did the AAC choose Tulane? Why was ODU chosen over stAte and UL? Why did they choose LaTech over UL which has a bigger market? They had their reasons and they weren't the ones everyone necessarily expected.

People insist they know what conferences are going to do in conference realignment and they don't.

Tulane has the market (New Orleans), budget (over 30 million), endowment (over 1 billion), and academics to be included in the AAC.

Moreover, they're building this:
[Image: 10511652_736252086440143_1600886747036227602_o.jpg]

the stadium looks nice but for as much money as they spent on it you would think they could've gotten it a little bigger

75 million isn't that much, and 27,000 (plus 3,000 SRO) is perfect size for Tulane...notice how the stadium backs right up to neighboring houses.

Check you facts, its actually now 23,000 seats. But hey, that's big time football!

That's not what their AD says...we'll find out in about 40 days...I'm expecting a sell out for Ga Tech.

Everything I've seen says 27,000 seats (with 3,000 SRO)
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RE: CUSA Finished With Expansion
(07-28-2014 10:26 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(07-28-2014 10:08 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 02:30 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 01:34 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 01:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Tulane has the market (New Orleans), budget (over 30 million), endowment (over 1 billion), and academics to be included in the AAC.

Moreover, they're building this:
[Image: 10511652_736252086440143_1600886747036227602_o.jpg]

the stadium looks nice but for as much money as they spent on it you would think they could've gotten it a little bigger

75 million isn't that much, and 27,000 (plus 3,000 SRO) is perfect size for Tulane...notice how the stadium backs right up to neighboring houses.

Check you facts, its actually now 23,000 seats. But hey, that's big time football!

That's not what their AD says...we'll find out in about 40 days...I'm expecting a sell out for Ga Tech.

Everything I've seen says 27,000 seats (with 3,000 SRO)

Whichever capacity is correct, it will make for a much better game atmosphere than a near empty SuperDome.
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(07-28-2014 10:26 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  That's not what their AD says...we'll find out in about 40 days...I'm expecting a sell out for Ga Tech.

Everything I've seen says 27,000 seats (with 3,000 SRO)

You might want to check out their board for more reliable information. Their fans pretty much consider their AD a liar. Everyone seems to agrees that there are about 22,600 actual seats though as BR says, it'll make for a better gameday experience.

In my view, their head coach is under a tremendous amount of pressure to produce this year. If he puts a losing team on the field this season, by year's end they'll be playing before sparse crowds again as their fans' patience has been stretched to the limit.

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RE: CUSA Finished With Expansion
(07-28-2014 10:26 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(07-28-2014 10:08 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 02:30 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 01:34 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 01:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Tulane has the market (New Orleans), budget (over 30 million), endowment (over 1 billion), and academics to be included in the AAC.

Moreover, they're building this:
[Image: 10511652_736252086440143_1600886747036227602_o.jpg]

the stadium looks nice but for as much money as they spent on it you would think they could've gotten it a little bigger

75 million isn't that much, and 27,000 (plus 3,000 SRO) is perfect size for Tulane...notice how the stadium backs right up to neighboring houses.

Check you facts, its actually now 23,000 seats. But hey, that's big time football!

That's not what their AD says...we'll find out in about 40 days...I'm expecting a sell out for Ga Tech.

Everything I've seen says 27,000 seats (with 3,000 SRO)

According to this article from it'll have 25,000 seats with a capacity of 30,000. Third paragraph from the bottom.

http://tulane.edu/news/newwave/nw_110112stadium.cfm

2014 media guide shows "capacity" of 30K, no seating number. Play on words.
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I really don't like the way Tulane's stadium looks. Maybe it looks fine from ground level, but from the air it looks really stupid.
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(07-29-2014 07:13 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  According to this article from it'll have 25,000 seats with a capacity of 30,000. Third paragraph from the bottom.

http://tulane.edu/news/newwave/nw_110112stadium.cfm

2014 media guide shows "capacity" of 30K, no seating number. Play on words.
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Forget the articles, they're merely repeating what the AD has told them. Again, many Wave fans don't believe anything the AD tells anyone.

There's a Tulane website that allows you to go in and look at the seats per section. One guy counted every seat, section by section, and came up with 22,600. Most fans on the site I linked agree that that's the number of actual seats. There is certainly more space available in the suites, but many seem to doubt the stadium will reach 30,000.

Again, it'll still be a better gameday experience than the Super Dome unless the team performs poorly and they go back to a few thousand spectators.
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(07-29-2014 08:20 AM)Niner National Wrote:  I really don't like the way Tulane's stadium looks. Maybe it looks fine from ground level, but from the air it looks really stupid.

The photo above is taken with a wide angle lens and is distorting the proportions.
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(07-29-2014 08:20 AM)Niner National Wrote:  I really don't like the way Tulane's stadium looks. Maybe it looks fine from ground level, but from the air it looks really stupid.

It is a strange looking stadium. It looks like an old stadium that was expanded over the years instead of a brand new facility. I'm sure they are excited to be on campus, but it isn't the best design in the world.
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(07-28-2014 09:28 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(07-28-2014 08:07 PM)MSUBear42 Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 03:42 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 12:07 PM)panite Wrote:  
(07-25-2014 07:07 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  If MoSt and JMU accepted, we would be at 13 at which time Idaho would be dropped to get us to the magic number of 12. The key now is to have solid football programs that help you rank higher in the payout and can potentially reap the financial windfall of the top G5 program selected in the bowl.

If the Sunbelt drops Idaho they can be the travel partner with BYU to the AAC for FB only when BYU joins that conference. Or they can join the MWC with BYU if Thompson can out sell Aresco again like he did when he held on to Boise and SDSU. 07-coffee3

I can make a case for JMU based on their success at the FCS level, their attendance and the size of their athletic budget. They have a solid FCS football program and seem ready to make the move.

But if the key is "to have solid programs that help you rank higher in the payout", then I don't see how Missouri State accomplishes that. They struggle at the FCS level.

Idaho is here through 2017. If they win in the Sun Belt, they will stay. If they lose and there is a solid FCS candidate available, then they could be gone. But the AAC would not be interested in Idaho at all and Idaho brings nothing to the MWC that they need. No market, no decent basketball program, not even a baseball program. If the SBC ever decided to ask Idaho to leave because of poor performance, no other league is going to accept them.

We may struggle at FCS, but we've also NEVER invested in football like we are right now. Hopefully the results follow.

Yes, If Missouri State wants to move up, the onus is on them to show it in the next couple of years. If they do that, the votes are there to invite.

I'm not as sure.They are a good fit but FBS is sitting on the dime and all G5 have the luxury of waiting until it's necessary.A lot of the factors that stimulated FCS need have dissipated.

Every year waiting will strengthen the lower FBS over FCS and I say we worked for it so let's not give it away just yet.
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(07-29-2014 09:10 AM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  
(07-29-2014 08:20 AM)Niner National Wrote:  I really don't like the way Tulane's stadium looks. Maybe it looks fine from ground level, but from the air it looks really stupid.

The photo above is taken with a wide angle lens and is distorting the proportions.
It isn't distorting the general design / shape of the stadium though.
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(07-29-2014 10:37 AM)Niner National Wrote:  
(07-29-2014 09:10 AM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  
(07-29-2014 08:20 AM)Niner National Wrote:  I really don't like the way Tulane's stadium looks. Maybe it looks fine from ground level, but from the air it looks really stupid.

The photo above is taken with a wide angle lens and is distorting the proportions.
It isn't distorting the general design / shape of the stadium though.
Hard to judge until you see it in action and see how it is with a crowd. Vandy's basketball arena is also weird...but does a job.
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(07-29-2014 10:54 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(07-29-2014 10:37 AM)Niner National Wrote:  
(07-29-2014 09:10 AM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  
(07-29-2014 08:20 AM)Niner National Wrote:  I really don't like the way Tulane's stadium looks. Maybe it looks fine from ground level, but from the air it looks really stupid.

The photo above is taken with a wide angle lens and is distorting the proportions.
It isn't distorting the general design / shape of the stadium though.
Hard to judge until you see it in action and see how it is with a crowd. Vandy's basketball arena is also weird...but does a job.

Filled to the gills and with the stands so close to the field I'm betting it'll be very loud and very intimidating to opposing teams. But it sure looks tiny when empty.

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(07-29-2014 11:18 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
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(07-29-2014 10:37 AM)Niner National Wrote:  
(07-29-2014 09:10 AM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  
(07-29-2014 08:20 AM)Niner National Wrote:  I really don't like the way Tulane's stadium looks. Maybe it looks fine from ground level, but from the air it looks really stupid.

The photo above is taken with a wide angle lens and is distorting the proportions.
It isn't distorting the general design / shape of the stadium though.
Hard to judge until you see it in action and see how it is with a crowd. Vandy's basketball arena is also weird...but does a job.

Filled to the gills and with the stands so close to the field I'm betting it'll be very loud and very intimidating to opposing teams. But it sure looks tiny when empty.

[Image: JUhndNL.png]
Looks a lot better from that angle, but still kinda unusual.
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(07-29-2014 01:08 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(07-29-2014 11:18 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(07-29-2014 10:54 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(07-29-2014 10:37 AM)Niner National Wrote:  
(07-29-2014 09:10 AM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  The photo above is taken with a wide angle lens and is distorting the proportions.
It isn't distorting the general design / shape of the stadium though.
Hard to judge until you see it in action and see how it is with a crowd. Vandy's basketball arena is also weird...but does a job.

Filled to the gills and with the stands so close to the field I'm betting it'll be very loud and very intimidating to opposing teams. But it sure looks tiny when empty.

[Image: JUhndNL.png]
Looks a lot better from that angle, but still kinda unusual.


Looks like a Soccer Stadium to me.
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based on the other overhead pic, it doesn't look like they can expand much if at all. Not that they need to now, but it is always nice to have the option. Are there plans to expand if needed?
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(07-29-2014 01:26 PM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  based on the other overhead pic, it doesn't look like they can expand much if at all. Not that they need to now, but it is always nice to have the option. Are there plans to expand if needed?

I think there's room in the end zones for expansion....another deck perhaps, but the side where the press box is located I believe has a height restriction due to the nimbýs below. I could be wrong though.

I do know this, according to Savacool, they've got the largest scoreboard in the galaxy.
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problem with another deck is you still need footing and room behind seats to support. There is no room on to do this and one endzone backs upto these brown biuldings (thought it was dirt lots at first). Just looks like at most they can add 5K seasts.
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