Quote:Since the early 1990s gay activists and various homosexual groups have been using strategies that provide them with greater access to public schools. Usually the focus is upon making the schools a safer place for gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, and transsexual students, thereby justifying the introduction of topics and speakers on the subject of homosexuality. And the establishment of homosexual clubs on campus provides an ongoing program to continue to introduce homosexuality to students on campus.

Download the Podcast Two key organizations are the Gay Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN) and Parents, Families, and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG). Both have been helpful in establishing a foothold for homosexual speakers, programs, and curricula.

Perhaps the most effective wedge used by gay activists to open the door to the public schools has been concern over student safety. Kevin Jennings. Executive Director for GLSEN, explained in a speech how the "safety" issue was a most effective strategy:

In Massachusetts, the effective reframing of this issue was the key to the success of the Governor's Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth. We immediately seized upon the opponent's calling card–safety–and explained how homophobia represents a threat to students' safety by creating a climate where violence, name-calling, health problems, and suicide are common. Titling our report "Making Schools Safe for Gay and Lesbian Youth," we automatically threw our opponents onto the defensive and stole their best line of attack. This framing short-circuited their arguments and left them back-pedaling from day one.{1}

The strategy has obviously been successful because no one would want to be against making the schools a safer environment. It almost doesn't matter whether the allegations are true. Once you raise the concern of safety, most administrators, teachers, and parents quickly fall in line.

There is an irony in all of this. Many of the behaviors that are taught and affirmed in these school programs and clubs are unsafe in term of public health. For example, Pediatrics (Journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics) reported on a Harvard study that found more than thirty risks positively associated with self-reported gay-lesbian-bisexual (GLB) orientation.{2} So it is indeed ironic that the idea of "safety" is often used as means to introduce teaching and discussion of behaviors that have been proven to be quite "unsafe."

http://afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?id=2147528111

Sick

Do you not have a problem with bullying and violence against gays?

(07-23-2014 04:32 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  Do you not have a problem with bullying and violence against gays?

I don't like bullying for any reason. Gays are no more special than anyone.
Kids get bullied for any number of reasons. How do a bully know if someone is gay?

Yep, only 2 posts in and this thread is already headed in the direction of bonehead stupidity.

(07-23-2014 05:24 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Yep, only 2 posts in and this thread is already headed in the direction of bonehead stupidity.

I agree bullying is bullying it doesn't matter the reason. So there is no justification for GE, Gay Education in school. Just punish all bullies when they are caught.

(07-23-2014 05:31 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 05:24 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Yep, only 2 posts in and this thread is already headed in the direction of bonehead stupidity.

I agree bullying is bullying it doesn't matter the reason. So there is no justification for GE, Gay Education in school. Just punish all bullies when they are caught.

And the stupidity continues....

(07-23-2014 06:53 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 05:31 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 05:24 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Yep, only 2 posts in and this thread is already headed in the direction of bonehead stupidity.

I agree bullying is bullying it doesn't matter the reason. So there is no justification for GE, Gay Education in school. Just punish all bullies when they are caught.

And the stupidity continues....

Every time Johnny post stupidity shows up.

(07-23-2014 03:52 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Quote:Since the early 1990s gay activists and various homosexual groups have been using strategies that provide them with greater access to public schools. Usually the focus is upon making the schools a safer place for gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, and transsexual students, thereby justifying the introduction of topics and speakers on the subject of homosexuality. And the establishment of homosexual clubs on campus provides an ongoing program to continue to introduce homosexuality to students on campus.

Download the Podcast Two key organizations are the Gay Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN) and Parents, Families, and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG). Both have been helpful in establishing a foothold for homosexual speakers, programs, and curricula.

Perhaps the most effective wedge used by gay activists to open the door to the public schools has been concern over student safety. Kevin Jennings. Executive Director for GLSEN, explained in a speech how the "safety" issue was a most effective strategy:

In Massachusetts, the effective reframing of this issue was the key to the success of the Governor's Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth. We immediately seized upon the opponent's calling card–safety–and explained how homophobia represents a threat to students' safety by creating a climate where violence, name-calling, health problems, and suicide are common. Titling our report "Making Schools Safe for Gay and Lesbian Youth," we automatically threw our opponents onto the defensive and stole their best line of attack. This framing short-circuited their arguments and left them back-pedaling from day one.{1}

The strategy has obviously been successful because no one would want to be against making the schools a safer environment. It almost doesn't matter whether the allegations are true. Once you raise the concern of safety, most administrators, teachers, and parents quickly fall in line.

There is an irony in all of this. Many of the behaviors that are taught and affirmed in these school programs and clubs are unsafe in term of public health. For example, Pediatrics (Journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics) reported on a Harvard study that found more than thirty risks positively associated with self-reported gay-lesbian-bisexual (GLB) orientation.{2} So it is indeed ironic that the idea of "safety" is often used as means to introduce teaching and discussion of behaviors that have been proven to be quite "unsafe."

http://afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?id=2147528111

Sick

The AFA is a hate group...

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/in...ssociation

Sick

(07-23-2014 05:31 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I agree bullying is bullying it doesn't matter the reason. So there is no justification for GE, Gay Education in school. Just punish all bullies when they are caught.

That would be great but suspension and expulsion of the bullies costs the schools money from the federal and state gov'ts so they only do that in extreme circumstances now.

(07-23-2014 05:24 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Yep, only 2 posts in and this thread is already headed in the direction of bonehead stupidity.

^^^^^So sayeth the Gold Standard of Stupidity!!!

(07-23-2014 06:57 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 03:52 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Quote:Since the early 1990s gay activists and various homosexual groups have been using strategies that provide them with greater access to public schools. Usually the focus is upon making the schools a safer place for gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, and transsexual students, thereby justifying the introduction of topics and speakers on the subject of homosexuality. And the establishment of homosexual clubs on campus provides an ongoing program to continue to introduce homosexuality to students on campus.

Download the Podcast Two key organizations are the Gay Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN) and Parents, Families, and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG). Both have been helpful in establishing a foothold for homosexual speakers, programs, and curricula.

Perhaps the most effective wedge used by gay activists to open the door to the public schools has been concern over student safety. Kevin Jennings. Executive Director for GLSEN, explained in a speech how the "safety" issue was a most effective strategy:

In Massachusetts, the effective reframing of this issue was the key to the success of the Governor's Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth. We immediately seized upon the opponent's calling card–safety–and explained how homophobia represents a threat to students' safety by creating a climate where violence, name-calling, health problems, and suicide are common. Titling our report "Making Schools Safe for Gay and Lesbian Youth," we automatically threw our opponents onto the defensive and stole their best line of attack. This framing short-circuited their arguments and left them back-pedaling from day one.{1}

The strategy has obviously been successful because no one would want to be against making the schools a safer environment. It almost doesn't matter whether the allegations are true. Once you raise the concern of safety, most administrators, teachers, and parents quickly fall in line.

There is an irony in all of this. Many of the behaviors that are taught and affirmed in these school programs and clubs are unsafe in term of public health. For example, Pediatrics (Journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics) reported on a Harvard study that found more than thirty risks positively associated with self-reported gay-lesbian-bisexual (GLB) orientation.{2} So it is indeed ironic that the idea of "safety" is often used as means to introduce teaching and discussion of behaviors that have been proven to be quite "unsafe."

http://afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?id=2147528111

Sick

The AFA is a hate group...

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/in...ssociation

Sick

GLAAD is a hate group, as well. One you happen to agree with.

(07-23-2014 06:56 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 06:53 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 05:31 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 05:24 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Yep, only 2 posts in and this thread is already headed in the direction of bonehead stupidity.

I agree bullying is bullying it doesn't matter the reason. So there is no justification for GE, Gay Education in school. Just punish all bullies when they are caught.

And the stupidity continues....

Every time Johnny post stupidity shows up.

dude saying that we shouldn't stop bullying because "all bullying should be treated as equally bad" is like saying we shouldn't try to stop crime because all crime should be treated equally as bad.

not my fault that a stupid person (that would be you) can't see the stupidity of his own posts.

(07-23-2014 07:06 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 05:24 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Yep, only 2 posts in and this thread is already headed in the direction of bonehead stupidity.

^^^^^So sayeth the Gold Standard of Stupidity!!!

Get a life dude. My comments only come off as stupid by people who are so blindsided by their personal ignorance & hatred that rational talking points go right through one ear and out the other.

(07-23-2014 07:08 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 06:56 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 06:53 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 05:31 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 05:24 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Yep, only 2 posts in and this thread is already headed in the direction of bonehead stupidity.

I agree bullying is bullying it doesn't matter the reason. So there is no justification for GE, Gay Education in school. Just punish all bullies when they are caught.

And the stupidity continues....

Every time Johnny post stupidity shows up.

dude saying that we shouldn't stop bullying because "all bullying should be treated as equally bad" is like saying we shouldn't try to stop crime because all crime should be treated equally as bad.

not my fault that a stupid person (that would be you) can't see the stupidity of his own posts.

So you're saying a bully that beats up a gay deserves a harsher punishment that a bully that beats up an academically gifted (nerd) student? Assault is assault, the reason is not really important, right? Or are YOU to stupid to recognize this?

(07-23-2014 07:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 07:06 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 05:24 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Yep, only 2 posts in and this thread is already headed in the direction of bonehead stupidity.

^^^^^So sayeth the Gold Standard of Stupidity!!!

Get a life dude. My comments only come off as stupid by people who are so blindsided by their personal ignorance & hatred that rational talking points go right through one ear and out the other.

Memo to the Gold Standard of Stupidity: I have a life!!! That is all.

(07-23-2014 06:57 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 03:52 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Quote:Since the early 1990s gay activists and various homosexual groups have been using strategies that provide them with greater access to public schools. Usually the focus is upon making the schools a safer place for gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, and transsexual students, thereby justifying the introduction of topics and speakers on the subject of homosexuality. And the establishment of homosexual clubs on campus provides an ongoing program to continue to introduce homosexuality to students on campus.

Download the Podcast Two key organizations are the Gay Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN) and Parents, Families, and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG). Both have been helpful in establishing a foothold for homosexual speakers, programs, and curricula.

Perhaps the most effective wedge used by gay activists to open the door to the public schools has been concern over student safety. Kevin Jennings. Executive Director for GLSEN, explained in a speech how the "safety" issue was a most effective strategy:

In Massachusetts, the effective reframing of this issue was the key to the success of the Governor's Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth. We immediately seized upon the opponent's calling card–safety–and explained how homophobia represents a threat to students' safety by creating a climate where violence, name-calling, health problems, and suicide are common. Titling our report "Making Schools Safe for Gay and Lesbian Youth," we automatically threw our opponents onto the defensive and stole their best line of attack. This framing short-circuited their arguments and left them back-pedaling from day one.{1}

The strategy has obviously been successful because no one would want to be against making the schools a safer environment. It almost doesn't matter whether the allegations are true. Once you raise the concern of safety, most administrators, teachers, and parents quickly fall in line.

There is an irony in all of this. Many of the behaviors that are taught and affirmed in these school programs and clubs are unsafe in term of public health. For example, Pediatrics (Journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics) reported on a Harvard study that found more than thirty risks positively associated with self-reported gay-lesbian-bisexual (GLB) orientation.{2} So it is indeed ironic that the idea of "safety" is often used as means to introduce teaching and discussion of behaviors that have been proven to be quite "unsafe."

http://afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?id=2147528111

Sick

The AFA is a hate group...

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/in...ssociation

Sick

What's your standard for HATE, people that disagree with the gay agenda? The school system can teach that ALL bullying is wrong without teaching that homosexuality is right. Ever hear of The Golden Rule? Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. or Love thy neighbor as thy self. That does not require societal conformity.

If not agreeing with a point of view defines a HATE group then virtually all Gay Agenda groups are Christianphobes, or hate groups.

^ ask the SPLC...

(07-23-2014 07:18 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 07:08 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 06:56 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 06:53 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 05:31 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I agree bullying is bullying it doesn't matter the reason. So there is no justification for GE, Gay Education in school. Just punish all bullies when they are caught.

And the stupidity continues....

Every time Johnny post stupidity shows up.

dude saying that we shouldn't stop bullying because "all bullying should be treated as equally bad" is like saying we shouldn't try to stop crime because all crime should be treated equally as bad.

not my fault that a stupid person (that would be you) can't see the stupidity of his own posts.

So you're saying a bully that beats up a gay deserves a harsher punishment that a bully that beats up an academically gifted (nerd) student? Assault is assault, the reason is not really important, right? Or are YOU to stupid to recognize this?

No what I am saying is that your logic of "all bullying is equal, so lets not try to stop bullying because we shouldn't be giving specific treatment to one area of bullying" is a concept that is a giant pot of stupidity. and lets not fool ourselves here. The real issue that you have isn't the "unequal treatment" but that you generally don't give a sh.it if kids are bullied based on sexual orientation.

(07-23-2014 07:20 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 07:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 07:06 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 05:24 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Yep, only 2 posts in and this thread is already headed in the direction of bonehead stupidity.

^^^^^So sayeth the Gold Standard of Stupidity!!!

Get a life dude. My comments only come off as stupid by people who are so blindsided by their personal ignorance & hatred that rational talking points go right through one ear and out the other.

Memo to the Gold Standard of Stupidity: I have a life!!! That is all.

Now this is classic.

(07-23-2014 07:27 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 07:18 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 07:08 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 06:56 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 06:53 PM)john01992 Wrote:  And the stupidity continues....

Every time Johnny post stupidity shows up.

dude saying that we shouldn't stop bullying because "all bullying should be treated as equally bad" is like saying we shouldn't try to stop crime because all crime should be treated equally as bad.

not my fault that a stupid person (that would be you) can't see the stupidity of his own posts.

So you're saying a bully that beats up a gay deserves a harsher punishment that a bully that beats up an academically gifted (nerd) student? Assault is assault, the reason is not really important, right? Or are YOU to stupid to recognize this?

No what I am saying is that your logic of "all bullying is equal, so lets not try to stop bullying because we shouldn't be giving specific treatment to one area of bullying" is a concept that is a giant pot of stupidity. and lets not fool ourselves here. The real issue that you have isn't the "unequal treatment" but that you generally don't give a sh.it if kids are bullied based on sexual orientation.

NO your to f*ing IGNORANT to get my point maybe all caps will make it clearer ALL BULLYING IS WRONG, ALL BULLIES GET PUNSIHED, THE PUNISHMENT FOR BULLYING IS THE SAME, THE REASON FOR THE BULLYING DOES NOT MATTER. I can't make it any clearer. If a kid beats another kid to a bloody pulp, I don't need to know why to say that calls for permanent expulsion. If you think the punishment should be harsher because it was done because the kid was a homosexual you are a bigot.