You got free loaders in Detroit who have a masters degree in scamming free cable, never pay their dam
water bill, and they all mad because the **** got turned off for 1 dam time in their lives. And Memphis throws a hissy fit.

(07-21-2014 07:37 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  ^ that's the objections being raised...and they are good points...but you would think a "eat at your own risk" sign would be enough.

That doesn't fly in your liberal "there is no such thing as personal responsibility" utopia.

How in hell is it RACIST to turn the water off of individuals who chose to not pay their water bills over a period of months? THey don't turn it off if you miss one payment, so it was probably 3 months + before it was cut off.

Water is available. It falls in the form of rain. Collect it in pots, jugs, glasses, barrels. There are public facilities. Most stores, churches and office buildings have restrooms. To be quite blunt, guys only need about 30 seconds behind a tree to relieve their bladder. A little harder for the females but I did see one urinate between parked cars at a restaurant parking lot on Addison, TX. When you gotta go, you gotta go.

At the end of the day...TOUGH SH!T. Learn to prioritize and meet your financial obligations. Make the right sacrifices to make DAMN SURE you have the basics covered. That means cut off these things FIRST - cable, cell phone, eating out, driving (walk, bicycle, public busses...park that car!). Then greatly reduce your power bill: 60 in winter, 80 in summer, off in spring and fall. Your diet becomes a lot of cereal, fruits, veggies, and sandwiches. Ditch your computer; use the library (leap of faith that Detroit still has libraries).

Bottom line? Make the hard choices but keep a roof over your head, food on the table, a bed or futon to sleep on, power, and water. EVERYTHING ELSE is truly secondary.

You made your (water)bed, now lay in it. I could give a damn less if you gotta bathe in a ditch, wash your hair at a public toilet at the local AutoZone, or drink from Lake Michigan in January. You put yourself in that situation, now reap the whirlwind.

(07-21-2014 05:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Why not dump billions in "Foreign Aid" into OUR cities like Detroit, Camden, Flint, even Memphis?

Why prop up african and middle east nations with US funds?

Mo money, that's all you guys ever come up with. Even after gazillions have been thrown at the problem with no net positive results the answer always remains; mo money. If you threw say a million at the problem, how much do you honestly think would find its way to its intended recipients after all the crooks, um, I mean city leaders cut their share out? 10%, 30% 60%? The city leaders of Detroit, in collusion with the UAW leaders, through their corruption, graft and greed, drove Detroit into insolvency.

(07-21-2014 05:10 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 05:04 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 05:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Why not dump billions in "Foreign Aid" into OUR cities like Detroit, Camden, Flint, even Memphis?

Why prop up african and middle east nations with US funds?

Uhhhhh, we've done that. For decades. And generations. Guess what? It didn't solve a thing. Frankly, it made matters significantly worse.

The leftists mantra- " WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING!!! THROW MONEY AT IT!!!" Auuuuuggghhhhhhh!!!!

You'd rather throw money at corrupt 3rd world nations...gotcha.

Detroit may as well be a corrupt 3rd world nation.

(07-21-2014 05:24 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 05:18 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 05:13 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 05:11 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 05:10 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  You'd rather throw money at corrupt 3rd world nations...gotcha.

Burning it on a fire pit or flushing it down the toilet.... Either way it will not be constructively used if you give it out to situations who's problems are not resource based.

So by your logic, it gets burned up either way...lets at least burn it up trying to help US citizens.

How 'bout we NOT BURN IT UP. Good grief, you Obama blowers only know how to fail. "Let's not send it overseas to fail, let's blow it all here and watch it fail." Fail fail fail.

Here's a novel idea, why don't you hand over coffers of money you earned to me, and let me burn through it. That sounds like a plan.

Which GOP candidate wants to cut all foreign aid?

Which dim candidate want to cut all foreign aid?

(07-21-2014 06:18 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:16 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 05:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Why not dump billions in "Foreign Aid" into OUR cities like Detroit, Camden, Flint, even Memphis?

Why prop up african and middle east nations with US funds?

Screw 'em. There's more opportunity in this country than anywhere else on the planet. If somebody, who isn't a child, elderly or physically unable, can't make their ends meet they pretty much deserve to starve instead of getting gov't assistance.

^ then we are not a great nation...and there was never any shining city on the hill.

BS, Detroit was a thriving city, 50 years of dim leadership took care of that. I don't see how you can argue with that and keep a straight face.

(07-21-2014 06:37 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:28 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:18 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:16 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 05:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Why not dump billions in "Foreign Aid" into OUR cities like Detroit, Camden, Flint, even Memphis?

Why prop up african and middle east nations with US funds?

Screw 'em. There's more opportunity in this country than anywhere else on the planet. If somebody, who isn't a child, elderly or physically unable, can't make their ends meet they pretty much deserve to starve instead of getting gov't assistance.

^ then we are not a great nation...and there was never any shining city on the hill.

You need to retake some history classes.

The basis of this countries greatness has absofuckinlutely nothing to do with how much it hands out to people.

you're brainwashed bruh

You judge a society by how it treats those at the bottom...you guys take the "let them die" approach and still dare to call it a great nation? Talk about the height of hubris.

You read that in a book somewhere and let it seep into your idealistic brain.

(07-21-2014 06:43 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:37 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  You judge a society by how it treats those at the bottom...you guys take the "let them die" approach and still dare to call it a great nation? Talk about the height of hubris.

Able bodied.... able bodied. I'll throw mentally able in there as well. I have no issue helping children, elderly, physically or mentally ill people that cannot care for themselves but we've got no business whatsoever giving handouts to people that can care for themselves.

You apparently live in a sick world where everything is somebody else' fault. Apparently we're all obligated to fork out money via the federal gov't to care for these good-for-nothing bums. If that's what you want to do with your hard earned cash and the example you'd like to set for YOUR children be my guest but get your damn hands off my wallet and stop brainwashing my kid.

Exactly, but no matter how many times you qualify that sentiment soft liberals read right past it. It's as if they think that by ignoring it it says what they want it to say.

(07-21-2014 06:43 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:38 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  1 Thesselonians 3 (KJV)

Quote:1 Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:
2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.
3 But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.
4 And we have confidence in the Lord touching you, that ye both do and will do the things which we command you.
5 And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ.
6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.
7 For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;
8 Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:
9 Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an example unto you to follow us.
10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.
12 Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.
13 But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing.
14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.
15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.
16 Now the Lord of peace himself give you peace always by all means. The Lord be with you all.
17 The salutation of Paul with mine own hand, which is the token in every epistle: so I write.
18 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

Keep it in church, this is a secular nation...see establishment clause.

This is a country founded on religious principles, it was one of the compelling reasons for people leaving England to come here. You'd know that if you knew anything about the history of this country that wasn't altered to fit the progressive version. You remind me of my son...when he was 12, by the time he was 14 he had a job and had already begun to understand the principles upon which this country was built. Not because he read it in a book somewhere or had some educator telling him, he learned it by living it.

(07-21-2014 07:40 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 07:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 07:06 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:58 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  And if you lose your job...what?...just die?

Find another job, grow fruit/vegetables, hunt, fish, work for food, etc. There's all kinds of ways to feed yourself if you want to take responsibility for your life.

lol, OK...because everyone lives on multiple acres out in the woods.

The second you lose a job there aren't 10 people standing there with job offers for you.

Nobody said they would be standing there waiting.

You would have lasted all of 24 hours 75 years ago

You give him far too much credit.

(07-21-2014 09:57 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:37 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:28 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:18 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:16 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Screw 'em. There's more opportunity in this country than anywhere else on the planet. If somebody, who isn't a child, elderly or physically unable, can't make their ends meet they pretty much deserve to starve instead of getting gov't assistance.

^ then we are not a great nation...and there was never any shining city on the hill.

You need to retake some history classes.

The basis of this countries greatness has absofuckinlutely nothing to do with how much it hands out to people.

you're brainwashed bruh

You judge a society by how it treats those at the bottom...you guys take the "let them die" approach and still dare to call it a great nation? Talk about the height of hubris.

You read that in a book somewhere and let it seep into your idealistic brain.

I can think of worse things to be called.

Drew, you really are clueless. It's sad that an otherwise intelligent young man has allowed his mind to be co-opted by opportunists who see you as nothing more than fodder to keep them in power through your collective vote. Marx, Lenin, etal are your heroes aren't they, admit it, you own a Che Guevera shirt - or maybe a handbag - don't you...

This thread should be renamed No Hope for Drew since he's hijacked it.

(07-21-2014 05:10 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 05:04 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 05:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Why not dump billions in "Foreign Aid" into OUR cities like Detroit, Camden, Flint, even Memphis?

Why prop up african and middle east nations with US funds?

Uhhhhh, we've done that. For decades. And generations. Guess what? It didn't solve a thing. Frankly, it made matters significantly worse.

The leftists mantra- " WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING!!! THROW MONEY AT IT!!!" Auuuuuggghhhhhhh!!!!

You'd rather throw money at corrupt 3rd world nations...gotcha.

The irony of this statement does not evade me.

So deadbeats haven't paid their water bill in months, it gets cut off and somehow that is racist???? Is there anything that some wont blame on racism? Give up one of your daily 40s and let the tax payer buy you a $3.99 24 pack of bottled water on your EBT card. Then stfu.

(07-21-2014 10:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 09:57 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:37 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:28 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:18 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  ^ then we are not a great nation...and there was never any shining city on the hill.

You need to retake some history classes.

The basis of this countries greatness has absofuckinlutely nothing to do with how much it hands out to people.

you're brainwashed bruh

You judge a society by how it treats those at the bottom...you guys take the "let them die" approach and still dare to call it a great nation? Talk about the height of hubris.

You read that in a book somewhere and let it seep into your idealistic brain.

I can think of worse things to be called.

It's not complimentary.

We might have had money to help out if the Progressives hadn't given it away
to their friends in the name of green programs or some other PC thought up
bull crap. Solyndra's $538,000,000 alone would have bought a heck of a lot of
water.

(07-21-2014 05:09 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  The only way Detroit has any chance at some kind of comeback is by reducing the crushing regulatory burden they have in place now (along with some tax reform I would assume, I'm not familiar with Michigan). Even if free market reforms are made at the federal level, the people in charge of Detroit for decades have destroyed themselves, they ultimately have to be the ones who adopt policies which will rebuild them.

Not really. Detroit is a lost cause. Every productive citizen has left the city for greener pastures. What's left are deadbeats, addicts, elderly, working poor and those who profit off of the previous groups. To save Detroit you would have relocate everyone into a smaller, more easily managed area of land. If you think you have race baiting going on now, try doing that and see what happens. Detroit needs some kind of Katrina event.

If vacant lots were painted red, an aerial view of Detroit would look like a bad case of the measles. There is so much empty land today within Detroit's 139 square miles -- land slowly returning to nature with no buildings -- the city of Paris could fit inside. If all that land were gathered into football fields, Detroit could host 25,000 simultaneous games.
http://cmsimg.freep.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/b...e-a-burden

http://zfein.com/photography/detroit/
Abandoned City of Detroit
Detroit, Michigan

The study of abandonment must convene upon Detroit at one point or another. No other city in the United States has undergone such a dramatic level of population decline, abandonment, and urban decay over the past few decades.
Today, not only is nearly half of Detroit's 138 square mile area vacant.