'The' is a marketing move, pure and simple. It has obviously worked brilliantly, considering how athletes use it to refer to the school on national television and how people like us continually obsess about it on message boards.

(07-15-2014 12:41 PM)colohank Wrote:  The school in Columbus is a relative Johnny-come-lately (1870) in Ohio academic circles. Ohio University in Athens (1804) was already well established, so Columbus had to settle for Ohio State University (I used to think that the "state" was because it's a land-grant institution, but then so is the University of Florida, so that can't be the reason). The distinguishing "the" (always with a lowercase "t") entered into the equation only recently. I think I first heard it when pro football players were asked to name their alma maters during pre-game introductions). That was maybe ten or fifteen years ago, at most. How and why it got started or caught on is beyond me, because there aren't any other Ohio State Universities around with which it might be confused. At least I hope not. In any event, we just called it Ohio State back in the day. That was good enough when we beat them twice for the NCAA basketball championship, and that's good enough now -- Ohio State, with no preceding "the" and no "university." Perfect clarity is always good enough.

Hmmm... I wonder if I should consider writing down my street address with a "the" in front of the house number so nobody confuses it with all the other identical addresses on my street and in my town and state?

Turnabout is fair play. While Ohio State is busy hustling Cincinnati kids, we should be working to lure talent from Columbus and environs. Maybe the youngsters who live up there want a change of scenery, too. Didn't we snatch Isaiah Pead from right under their noses?

(07-15-2014 01:24 PM)colohank Wrote:  Turnabout is fair play. While Ohio State is busy hustling Cincinnati kids, we should be working to lure talent from Columbus and environs. Maybe the youngsters who live up there want a change of scenery, too. Didn't we snatch Isaiah Pead from right under their noses?

Did osu offet

UC needs a radio affiliate in Columbus for this season.

(07-15-2014 01:34 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(07-15-2014 01:24 PM)colohank Wrote:  Turnabout is fair play. While Ohio State is busy hustling Cincinnati kids, we should be working to lure talent from Columbus and environs. Maybe the youngsters who live up there want a change of scenery, too. Didn't we snatch Isaiah Pead from right under their noses?

Did osu offet

I don't know, but it really doesn't matter whether they offered him or not. Maybe they were too busy poaching from others to notice him. What's important is that he was a highly productive talent, his talents were widely known, and we got him.

(07-15-2014 01:34 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(07-15-2014 01:24 PM)colohank Wrote:  Turnabout is fair play. While Ohio State is busy hustling Cincinnati kids, we should be working to lure talent from Columbus and environs. Maybe the youngsters who live up there want a change of scenery, too. Didn't we snatch Isaiah Pead from right under their noses?

Did osu offet

No..Pitt, Maryland, ind, wisc, wVA

(07-15-2014 01:38 PM)kyucat Wrote:  UC needs a radio affiliate in Columbus for this season.

UC needs a radio affiliate in Cincinnati first...

I would like to UC do more to get the games on in markets in Dayton, Columbus and even up in Lima and Toledo. While WLW is picked up in those markets it is not the first or second choice for people in those markets.

The cynic will respond by saying there has to be interest for those markets but the truth is the answer is money. Louisville's football games are on 1530 not because there are a ton of ravenous Card fans in the Tri-State, but because Louisville has paid 1530 for their time.

(07-15-2014 01:24 PM)colohank Wrote:  Turnabout is fair play. While Ohio State is busy hustling Cincinnati kids, we should be working to lure talent from Columbus and environs. Maybe the youngsters who live up there want a change of scenery, too. Didn't we snatch Isaiah Pead from right under their noses?

UC has down very well recruiting in Columbus. In addition to Pead we have had John Hughes, Blake Annen, Walter Stewart, Jacob Ramsey, Dan Sprague, Chazz Anderson and Brad Harrah.

There is a ton of talent in Columbus, particularly in the large suburban public schools in Dublin, Worthington, Westerville, Gahanna, Pickerington and Reynoldsburg. Most of those guys usually go Big Ten and even some quality ones go to the MAC on occasion.

I also think the AAC should some of the money from expansion and get a XMSirus channel for programming such as game of the week, Today in the AAC, Saturday AAC round-up with coaches interviews and high lights. The AAC can not leave it to ESPN if they do the AAC will get short changed. The Big East used to have a TV shows like that once a week on various channels in there markets. Aggressive marketing is needed NOW.

(07-15-2014 03:06 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(07-15-2014 01:24 PM)colohank Wrote:  Turnabout is fair play. While Ohio State is busy hustling Cincinnati kids, we should be working to lure talent from Columbus and environs. Maybe the youngsters who live up there want a change of scenery, too. Didn't we snatch Isaiah Pead from right under their noses?

UC has down very well recruiting in Columbus. In addition to Pead we have had John Hughes, Blake Annen, Walter Stewart, Jacob Ramsey, Dan Sprague, Chazz Anderson and Brad Harrah.

There is a ton of talent in Columbus, particularly in the large suburban public schools in Dublin, Worthington, Westerville, Gahanna, Pickerington and Reynoldsburg. Most of those guys usually go Big Ten and even some quality ones go to the MAC on occasion.

One of the recruiting services has 2 columbus guys with a heavy lean to UC for this upcoming class.

"The" has always officially been part of the title (at least since it switched from Ohio Agricultural and Mechanical College). It just was never emphasized until recently. OSU was actually referred to simply as Ohio by a lot of people in sports for a long time (look back to Jesse Owens uniforn which doesn't even contain the word state on it).

I'm not 100% sure this is right, but I've seen it online and it would make sense. OU trademarked the term Ohio for athletics and wanted to be called The Ohio University and there was a brief fight before a compromise was reached. OU got rights to the term Ohio, but Ohio State maintained some rights as well (there still is Ohio Stadium, script Ohio, various Ohio cheers, and the alma matter which the word state is never used in). For the "The" part, OSU had it, but if it wanted to keep it, they actually had to use it. There was also a branding move to "The Ohio State University" as school leaders decided that "OSU" which the school had been going with most commonly wasn't the best from a national perspective.

(07-15-2014 11:41 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  "The" has always officially been part of the title (at least since it switched from Ohio Agricultural and Mechanical College). It just was never emphasized until recently. OSU was actually referred to simply as Ohio by a lot of people in sports for a long time (look back to Jesse Owens uniforn which doesn't even contain the word state on it).

I'm not 100% sure this is right, but I've seen it online and it would make sense. OU trademarked the term Ohio for athletics and wanted to be called The Ohio University and there was a brief fight before a compromise was reached. OU got rights to the term Ohio, but Ohio State maintained some rights as well (there still is Ohio Stadium, script Ohio, various Ohio cheers, and the alma matter which the word state is never used in). For the "The" part, OSU had it, but if it wanted to keep it, they actually had to use it. There was also a branding move to "The Ohio State University" as school leaders decided that "OSU" which the school had been going with most commonly wasn't the best from a national perspective.

Interesting history. Thanks for posting. I guess this is partially explained by the coaches' caps, with simply "O" on them, as well.

Sounds like the whole "The" deal was born out of an OSU-OU squabble?

(07-16-2014 08:07 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(07-15-2014 11:41 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  "The" has always officially been part of the title (at least since it switched from Ohio Agricultural and Mechanical College). It just was never emphasized until recently. OSU was actually referred to simply as Ohio by a lot of people in sports for a long time (look back to Jesse Owens uniforn which doesn't even contain the word state on it).

I'm not 100% sure this is right, but I've seen it online and it would make sense. OU trademarked the term Ohio for athletics and wanted to be called The Ohio University and there was a brief fight before a compromise was reached. OU got rights to the term Ohio, but Ohio State maintained some rights as well (there still is Ohio Stadium, script Ohio, various Ohio cheers, and the alma matter which the word state is never used in). For the "The" part, OSU had it, but if it wanted to keep it, they actually had to use it. There was also a branding move to "The Ohio State University" as school leaders decided that "OSU" which the school had been going with most commonly wasn't the best from a national perspective.

Interesting history. Thanks for posting. I guess this is partially explained by the coaches' caps, with simply "O" on them, as well.

Sounds like the whole "The" deal was born out of an OSU-OU squabble?

That's the part I'm least certain of on there. I know I read at some point, that the OU back and forth was the reason for that (and it does make sense to me).

The problem is I see conflicting things online. The official stuff I've seen talks about moving away from simply being OSU on anything national with the full name used instead. It's possible that only the use of the term Ohio was in the OSU vs. OU agreement and emphasizing the "The" predated that a little.

Damn! I get tired of tO$U apologists. I also just get tired of tO$U lovers who post of Cincinnati boards.

(07-18-2014 10:06 PM)ctipton Wrote:  Damn! I get tired of tO$U apologists. I also just get tired of tO$U lovers who post of Cincinnati boards.

Ohio1317 is a good poster Ctip. He is active on other boards like college sports/ realignment.
He is no troll, that is for sure.

(07-19-2014 10:34 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 10:06 PM)ctipton Wrote:  Damn! I get tired of tO$U apologists. I also just get tired of tO$U lovers who post of Cincinnati boards.

Ohio1317 is a good poster Ctip. He is active on other boards like college sports/ realignment.
He is no troll, that is for sure.

Whether he is a troll or not, he is definitely an O$U apologist. He is always posting nice things about them, whether we are ripping them or not. This is an example. Everyone in Ohio is sick and tired of the "The" thing they started on Monday Night Football, and he comes along to try and make it sound like they don't have their heads up their collective asses. Sorry. It is what it is.

Sorry SFBC, we will just have to agree to disagree.

(07-19-2014 02:23 PM)ctipton Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 10:34 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 10:06 PM)ctipton Wrote:  Damn! I get tired of tO$U apologists. I also just get tired of tO$U lovers who post of Cincinnati boards.

Ohio1317 is a good poster Ctip. He is active on other boards like college sports/ realignment.
He is no troll, that is for sure.

Whether he is a troll or not, he is definitely an O$U apologist. He is always posting nice things about them, whether we are ripping them or not. This is an example. Everyone in Ohio is sick and tired of the "The" thing they started on Monday Night Football, and he comes along to try and make it sound like they don't have their heads up their collective asses. Sorry. It is what it is.

Sorry SFBC, we will just have to agree to disagree.

At least he identifies himself honestly...we have at least one regular poster who does not admit his OSU allegiance.

(07-19-2014 03:41 PM)cmhcat Wrote:  At least he identifies himself honestly...we have at least one regular poster who does not admit his OSU allegiance.

Is it BJ? I knew it!

(07-19-2014 04:44 PM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 03:41 PM)cmhcat Wrote:  At least he identifies himself honestly...we have at least one regular poster who does not admit his OSU allegiance.

Is it BJ? I knew it!

As a "Michigan Man" Coop, you might know who it is...

Bo would not appreciate you throwing around that term so loosely!

I don't pay much attention to anyone, I just post. With that said, the two best posters in the board's history are Jarr and the Blood member who wanted to kill us all.