(06-26-2014 01:44 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 12:03 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  So two players from your school having done it before makes it not a tremendous accomplishment? Call a spade a spade, Cato has slightly better chances of winning it than you or I do.

I just stated that we have had 2 do it before and had a 3rd miss, so it can happen. And I have no shot, my eligibility ran out 20 years ago.

You have no shot and neither do I, but Cato still only has slightly better chances.

(06-26-2014 07:34 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 09:58 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Getting to NYC would be a tremendous accomplishment.

Especially for a player with only two offers out of high school. Marshall and FIU (sorry, not sorry FIU).

I don't think anyone other than Cato and maybe Doc saw this level of performance coming when he was recruited.

Makes me pissed we didn't offer him. Right here in our own backyard. Thanks Pelini.

(06-26-2014 03:24 PM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 07:34 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 09:58 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Getting to NYC would be a tremendous accomplishment.

Especially for a player with only two offers out of high school. Marshall and FIU (sorry, not sorry FIU).

I don't think anyone other than Cato and maybe Doc saw this level of performance coming when he was recruited.

Makes me pissed we didn't offer him. Right here in our own backyard. Thanks Pelini.

Wasn't Schnellenberger still in charge in 2010?

(06-26-2014 03:45 PM)mufanatehc Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 03:24 PM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 07:34 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 09:58 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Getting to NYC would be a tremendous accomplishment.

Especially for a player with only two offers out of high school. Marshall and FIU (sorry, not sorry FIU).

I don't think anyone other than Cato and maybe Doc saw this level of performance coming when he was recruited.

Makes me pissed we didn't offer him. Right here in our own backyard. Thanks Pelini.

Wasn't Schnellenberger still in charge in 2010?

We had the one thing you guys did not. Tommy Shuler. He was going to go to FIU but Shuler stayed on him for months because they wanted to play together and Shuler wasn't going to switch from us. He was our first verbal. I don't think it would have mattered had FAU offered him or not.

(06-26-2014 03:24 PM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  Makes me pissed we didn't offer him. Right here in our own backyard. Thanks Pelini.

Pelini had nothing to do with FAU at the time. It was still Schnellenberger in 2010. Cato was commited to FIU up until he took his official visit to Marshall (1-25-2011) and it wasn't any coaches that got Cato to commit. It came down to playing with Hilton 1 year at FIU or 4 years with Shuler at Marshall.

Cato has said it was Shuler that got him to visit Marshall. He said once he hit Huntington and seen nothing but Green and White throughout the city he fell in love with the place and would decommit from FIU and commit to Marshall if he was offered a scholarship.

As BleedsGreen33 said we had something no one else had, Cato's best friend since birth basically.

Saw, not seen.

We're going to get you fixed.

(06-26-2014 09:09 PM)banker Wrote:  Saw, not seen.

We're going to get you fixed.

I'm in.
I can root for Marshall to win 11 games and for Cato to win the Heisman.

(06-25-2014 09:33 PM)mufanatehc Wrote:  

Quote:As the strongest Heisman contender from outside the major-conference picture, Cato's chances do rely in huge part on Marshall's ability to win 11 or more games during the regular season. Don't sleep on his production: Cato threw for 3,916 yards and 39 touchdowns a season ago, with both totals ranking among the nation's best, and will be provide another round of jaw-dropping totals as a senior.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../11345015/

(06-26-2014 06:08 PM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 03:45 PM)mufanatehc Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 03:24 PM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 07:34 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 09:58 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Getting to NYC would be a tremendous accomplishment.

Especially for a player with only two offers out of high school. Marshall and FIU (sorry, not sorry FIU).

I don't think anyone other than Cato and maybe Doc saw this level of performance coming when he was recruited.

Makes me pissed we didn't offer him. Right here in our own backyard. Thanks Pelini.

Wasn't Schnellenberger still in charge in 2010?

We had the one thing you guys did not. Tommy Shuler. He was going to go to FIU but Shuler stayed on him for months because they wanted to play together and Shuler wasn't going to switch from us. He was our first verbal. I don't think it would have mattered had FAU offered him or not.

Oops, I didn't mean to say that he would've picked us over Marshall. Rereading my post, I can totally see how it looks like that was what I was saying. That's my bad, I should've made my actual intent more clear.
I meant to say that I was aggravated because he lived in our own territory, but we didn't even take a look at him. It's just a reminder to how bad our recruiting was back then.

And everything is Pelini's fault. C'mon guys, if you can't laugh at yourself.... Am I right?

(06-26-2014 11:54 PM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  Oops, I didn't mean to say that he would've picked us over Marshall. Rereading my post, I can totally see how it looks like that was what I was saying. That's my bad, I should've made my actual intent more clear.
I meant to say that I was aggravated because he lived in our own territory, but we didn't even take a look at him. It's just a reminder to how bad our recruiting was back then.

And everything is Pelini's fault. C'mon guys, if you can't laugh at yourself.... Am I right?

You was also still playing in Lockhart stadium, which done you no favors.

(06-26-2014 10:14 PM)mufanatehc Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 09:09 PM)banker Wrote:  Saw, not seen.

We're going to get you fixed.

No way he sniffs NYC unless there's a miracle.

Bortles had a huge year last season, beat Penn State, UL, Houston, and Baylor, barely lost to USC, won the Fiesta Bowl, yet still didn't make it to NYC despite being the first QB taken in the draft.

Marshall's 2014 schedule doesn't have a team remotely near as tough as a Penn State, UL, USC, etc and as we've seen, the Heisman people don't give you a shred of credit unless there's a "Big 12" or "Big 10" next to your name.

He's definitely a good QB though.

(06-27-2014 09:39 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  No way he sniffs NYC unless there's a miracle.

Bortles had a huge year last season, beat Penn State, UL, Houston, and Baylor, barely lost to USC, won the Fiesta Bowl, yet still didn't make it to NYC despite being the first QB taken in the draft.

Marshall's 2014 schedule doesn't have a team remotely near as tough as a Penn State, UL, USC, etc and as we've seen, the Heisman people don't give you a shred of credit unless there's a "Big 12" or "Big 10" next to your name.

He's definitely a good QB though.

I'd suggest looking at the schedules Pennington and Moss played the years they were invited to NYC. There's definitely a chance.

(06-27-2014 09:58 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:39 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  No way he sniffs NYC unless there's a miracle.

Bortles had a huge year last season, beat Penn State, UL, Houston, and Baylor, barely lost to USC, won the Fiesta Bowl, yet still didn't make it to NYC despite being the first QB taken in the draft.

Marshall's 2014 schedule doesn't have a team remotely near as tough as a Penn State, UL, USC, etc and as we've seen, the Heisman people don't give you a shred of credit unless there's a "Big 12" or "Big 10" next to your name.

He's definitely a good QB though.

I'd suggest looking at the schedules Pennington and Moss played the years they were invited to NYC. There's definitely a chance.

The "P5" bias/hype is way, way worse today than it was then.

(06-27-2014 10:06 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:58 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:39 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  No way he sniffs NYC unless there's a miracle.

Bortles had a huge year last season, beat Penn State, UL, Houston, and Baylor, barely lost to USC, won the Fiesta Bowl, yet still didn't make it to NYC despite being the first QB taken in the draft.

Marshall's 2014 schedule doesn't have a team remotely near as tough as a Penn State, UL, USC, etc and as we've seen, the Heisman people don't give you a shred of credit unless there's a "Big 12" or "Big 10" next to your name.

He's definitely a good QB though.

I'd suggest looking at the schedules Pennington and Moss played the years they were invited to NYC. There's definitely a chance.

The "P5" bias/hype is way, way worse today than it was then.

Iowa
Idaho
Eastern Illinois
Purdue
Kent State
Akron
Central Michigan
Eastern Michigan
UMASS
Ball State
Toledo
Western Michigan

(06-27-2014 10:06 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:58 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:39 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  No way he sniffs NYC unless there's a miracle.

Bortles had a huge year last season, beat Penn State, UL, Houston, and Baylor, barely lost to USC, won the Fiesta Bowl, yet still didn't make it to NYC despite being the first QB taken in the draft.

Marshall's 2014 schedule doesn't have a team remotely near as tough as a Penn State, UL, USC, etc and as we've seen, the Heisman people don't give you a shred of credit unless there's a "Big 12" or "Big 10" next to your name.

He's definitely a good QB though.

I'd suggest looking at the schedules Pennington and Moss played the years they were invited to NYC. There's definitely a chance.

The "P5" bias/hype is way, way worse today than it was then.

Moss, Pennington done it and Leftwich just missed coming in 6th. And yes it can be done. Jordan Lynch done it just a few years ago with NIU. So head back to your Hole.

Has nothing to do with schedules at this point, it has to do with hype. Lynch had it a few years ago and Bortles didn't last year. Cato has been hyped not only by Marshall but the national media since the middle of his Soph year.

(06-27-2014 11:19 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 10:06 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:58 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:39 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  No way he sniffs NYC unless there's a miracle.

Bortles had a huge year last season, beat Penn State, UL, Houston, and Baylor, barely lost to USC, won the Fiesta Bowl, yet still didn't make it to NYC despite being the first QB taken in the draft.

Marshall's 2014 schedule doesn't have a team remotely near as tough as a Penn State, UL, USC, etc and as we've seen, the Heisman people don't give you a shred of credit unless there's a "Big 12" or "Big 10" next to your name.

He's definitely a good QB though.

I'd suggest looking at the schedules Pennington and Moss played the years they were invited to NYC. There's definitely a chance.

The "P5" bias/hype is way, way worse today than it was then.

Moss, Pennington done it and Leftwich just missed coming in 6th. And yes it can be done. Jordan Lynch done it just a few years ago with NIU. So head back to your Hole.

Has nothing to do with schedules at this point, it has to do with hype. Lynch had it a few years ago and Bortles didn't last year. Cato has been hyped not only by Marshall but the national media since the middle of his Soph year.

*did not done. However, at this point it could be a clever troll. If so...

LOL

My you Marshall fans are still a touchy bunch. I simply said that the odds of Cato making it to NYC are really remote, which any sane person would agree with.

And yes, schedule will matter. 100%. Cato had better have absolutely disgusting numbers with Marshall's schedule to get any Heisman hype. Which OOC game between Miami (OH), Ohio, and Rhode Island will give Cato national TV exposure to start the campaign??

(06-27-2014 01:11 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  LOL

My you Marshall fans are still a touchy bunch. I simply said that the odds of Cato making it to NYC are really remote, which any sane person would agree with.

And yes, schedule will matter. 100%. Cato had better have absolutely disgusting numbers with Marshall's schedule to get any Heisman hype. Which OOC game between Miami (OH), Ohio, and Rhode Island will give Cato national TV exposure to start the campaign??

Didn't you say it would take a miracle for him to sniff NYC?

Anyhow, you're right, Marshall's schedule is but a mere shell of the gauntlet that Jordan Lynch led NIU through all the way back in 2013...

(06-27-2014 11:10 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Iowa
Idaho
Eastern Illinois
Purdue
Kent State
Akron
Central Michigan
Eastern Michigan
UMASS
Ball State
Toledo
Western Michigan

(06-27-2014 01:11 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  LOL

My you Marshall fans are still a touchy bunch. I simply said that the odds of Cato making it to NYC are really remote, which any sane person would agree with.

And yes, schedule will matter. 100%. Cato had better have absolutely disgusting numbers with Marshall's schedule to get any Heisman hype. Which OOC game between Miami (OH), Ohio, and Rhode Island will give Cato national TV exposure to start the campaign??

In 10 years from now Blake Bortles will headline the class of Biggest Busts in the last 10 years. Decent QB with a good OL something he will never have in Jacksonville.

Now go back to you Hole at the AAck board.