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RE: Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
(05-31-2014 10:32 AM)PirateMarv Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:26 AM)Geotag Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:24 AM)PirateMarv Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:12 AM)TripleA Wrote: (05-31-2014 06:09 AM)KnightLight Wrote: Memphis is 0-9 vs UCF in conf games so just not having to play the Knights ever year is practically a free W for the Tigers.
Pretty feisty for a fan of a team that almost had its entire best season ever ruined by the hapless Tigers. You got lucky in the last two minutes. Twice. Try to be a little more humble. It doesn't hurt.
I watched that game. UCF didn't get lucky. Good teams don't always find a way to win, but bad teams almost always find a way to lose. I know that to be the case, because I have watched enough ECU basketball games and Chicago Cubs baseball games to see a tide turning.
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Memphis record over the last 3 years:
2-10 (1-7)
4-8 (4-4)
3-9 (1-7)
Those look like bad teams to me. And if kids had been on those teams during that 3 year stretch, then they are use to losing which is a very hard culture to change for a coach.
as there were less than 60 scholorship players when fuente arrived, after attrition, graduation and culling, i bet there arent 10 people left on the roster who played under porter.
you might just be fixing to get a little suprise.
(This post was last modified: 05-31-2014 12:17 PM by tigerjeb.)
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TripleA
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RE: Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
Ask some UCF fans if they got lucky, fool. And 9 times out of 10, that helmet to helmet fumble would have been called the other way. That is luck that it was not.
Don't get me wrong. UCF won the game. They are a much better team than Memphis. But to say there was no luck involved in the last 2 minutes, that it was all skill, and finding a way to win, well, that's just ignorant.
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RE: Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
(05-31-2014 01:00 PM)TripleA Wrote: Ask some UCF fans if they got lucky, fool. And 9 times out of 10, that helmet to helmet fumble would have been called the other way. That is luck that it was not.
Don't get me wrong. UCF won the game. They are a much better team than Memphis. But to say there was no luck involved in the last 2 minutes, that it was all skill, and finding a way to win, well, that's just ignorant.
A little luck is required to win any game. But UCF found a way to win. That is what defined UCF last year.
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RE: Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
(05-31-2014 01:04 PM)Knightsweat Wrote: (05-31-2014 01:00 PM)TripleA Wrote: Ask some UCF fans if they got lucky, fool. And 9 times out of 10, that helmet to helmet fumble would have been called the other way. That is luck that it was not.
Don't get me wrong. UCF won the game. They are a much better team than Memphis. But to say there was no luck involved in the last 2 minutes, that it was all skill, and finding a way to win, well, that's just ignorant.
A little luck is required to win any game. But UCF found a way to win. That is what defined UCF last year.
That's fine. I have no issue with it. But to say there was no luck involved in that particular game is ridiculous.
And there are plenty of blowout games that require no luck at all to win.
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RE: Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
(05-31-2014 12:16 PM)tigerjeb Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:32 AM)PirateMarv Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:26 AM)Geotag Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:24 AM)PirateMarv Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:12 AM)TripleA Wrote: Pretty feisty for a fan of a team that almost had its entire best season ever ruined by the hapless Tigers. You got lucky in the last two minutes. Twice. Try to be a little more humble. It doesn't hurt.
I watched that game. UCF didn't get lucky. Good teams don't always find a way to win, but bad teams almost always find a way to lose. I know that to be the case, because I have watched enough ECU basketball games and Chicago Cubs baseball games to see a tide turning.
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Memphis record over the last 3 years:
2-10 (1-7)
4-8 (4-4)
3-9 (1-7)
Those look like bad teams to me. And if kids had been on those teams during that 3 year stretch, then they are use to losing which is a very hard culture to change for a coach.
as there were less than 60 scholorship players when fuente arrived, after attrition, graduation and culling, i bet there arent 10 people left on the roster who played under porter.
you might just be fixing to get a little suprise.
No I won't. I watched Memphis several times last year and I know that they are a little better, but changing a losing culture will take Fuentes a little more time.
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RE: Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
(05-31-2014 10:40 AM)Geotag Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:32 AM)PirateMarv Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:26 AM)Geotag Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:24 AM)PirateMarv Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:12 AM)TripleA Wrote: Pretty feisty for a fan of a team that almost had its entire best season ever ruined by the hapless Tigers. You got lucky in the last two minutes. Twice. Try to be a little more humble. It doesn't hurt.
I watched that game. UCF didn't get lucky. Good teams don't always find a way to win, but bad teams almost always find a way to lose. I know that to be the case, because I have watched enough ECU basketball games and Chicago Cubs baseball games to see a tide turning.
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Memphis record over the last 3 years:
2-10 (1-7)
4-8 (4-4)
3-9 (1-7)
Those look like bad teams to me. And if kids had been on those teams during that 3 year stretch, then they are use to losing which is a very hard culture to change for a coach.
Well at least when we win and get to a post season then we will have earned it and not pay our way like ECU does in basketball. Truely pathetic
Gaining a post season birth in any sport requires a winning record.
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RE: Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
(05-31-2014 02:27 PM)PirateMarv Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:40 AM)Geotag Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:32 AM)PirateMarv Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:26 AM)Geotag Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:24 AM)PirateMarv Wrote: I watched that game. UCF didn't get lucky. Good teams don't always find a way to win, but bad teams almost always find a way to lose. I know that to be the case, because I have watched enough ECU basketball games and Chicago Cubs baseball games to see a tide turning.
I am PirateMarv derp derp
Memphis record over the last 3 years:
2-10 (1-7)
4-8 (4-4)
3-9 (1-7)
Those look like bad teams to me. And if kids had been on those teams during that 3 year stretch, then they are use to losing which is a very hard culture to change for a coach.
Well at least when we win and get to a post season then we will have earned it and not pay our way like ECU does in basketball. Truely pathetic
Gaining a post season birth in any sport requires a winning record.
You bought your way into a tournament. How thirsty can ECU get?
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RE: Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
(05-31-2014 10:12 AM)TripleA Wrote: (05-31-2014 06:09 AM)KnightLight Wrote: Memphis is 0-9 vs UCF in conf games so just not having to play the Knights ever year is practically a free W for the Tigers.
Pretty feisty for a fan of a team that almost had its entire best season ever ruined by the hapless Tigers. You got lucky in the last two minutes. Twice. Try to be a little more humble. It doesn't hurt.
Would ALMOST being 1-8 listed above look any better?
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RE: Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
(06-01-2014 07:46 AM)KnightLight Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:12 AM)TripleA Wrote: (05-31-2014 06:09 AM)KnightLight Wrote: Memphis is 0-9 vs UCF in conf games so just not having to play the Knights ever year is practically a free W for the Tigers.
Pretty feisty for a fan of a team that almost had its entire best season ever ruined by the hapless Tigers. You got lucky in the last two minutes. Twice. Try to be a little more humble. It doesn't hurt.
Would ALMOST being 1-8 listed above look any better?
No, not the point. Of course UCF is dominant in the series. No argument. I'm simply saying that I doubt you would be bragging so much if we had managed somehow to pull out that game in our most recent meeting. It would have wrecked your season and eliminated your chance at the BCS Bowl.
Just close enough that one would think a slight bit of humility might be in order. :)
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RE: Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
(06-01-2014 10:40 AM)TripleA Wrote: (06-01-2014 07:46 AM)KnightLight Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:12 AM)TripleA Wrote: (05-31-2014 06:09 AM)KnightLight Wrote: Memphis is 0-9 vs UCF in conf games so just not having to play the Knights ever year is practically a free W for the Tigers.
Pretty feisty for a fan of a team that almost had its entire best season ever ruined by the hapless Tigers. You got lucky in the last two minutes. Twice. Try to be a little more humble. It doesn't hurt.
Would ALMOST being 1-8 listed above look any better?
No, not the point. Of course UCF is dominant in the series. No argument. I'm simply saying that I doubt you would be bragging so much if we had managed somehow to pull out that game in our most recent meeting. It would have wrecked your season and eliminated your chance at the BCS Bowl.
Just close enough that one would think a slight bit of humility might be in order. :)
I don't think MOV matters much in these situations. Football games are really binary win/lose events. You win, you get all the spoils of victory, including full bragging rights.
Heck, we had UCF on the ropes, ahead 20-16 with 7 minutes left and we picked off Bortles to give ourselves the ball in UCF territory. But we couldn't convert a 3rd and short from around their 32, missed the long FG, and they scored to win it. We coulda shoulda woulda won the game, but didn't, so all the laurels go to UCF.
We all know Memphis dominated that game statistically and blew it with turnovers and penalties. But that's only like the 1000th time that's happened in football history, it's really a common scenario, so no use trying to deny the legitimacy of the UCF win.
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RE: Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
(06-01-2014 10:40 AM)TripleA Wrote: (06-01-2014 07:46 AM)KnightLight Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:12 AM)TripleA Wrote: (05-31-2014 06:09 AM)KnightLight Wrote: Memphis is 0-9 vs UCF in conf games so just not having to play the Knights ever year is practically a free W for the Tigers.
Pretty feisty for a fan of a team that almost had its entire best season ever ruined by the hapless Tigers. You got lucky in the last two minutes. Twice. Try to be a little more humble. It doesn't hurt.
Would ALMOST being 1-8 listed above look any better?
No, not the point. Of course UCF is dominant in the series. No argument. I'm simply saying that I doubt you would be bragging so much if we had managed somehow to pull out that game in our most recent meeting. It would have wrecked your season and eliminated your chance at the BCS Bowl.
Just close enough that one would think a slight bit of humility might be in order. :)
Definitely fishing for a moral victory. You guys lost, just man up. Our humility or lack thereof has nothing to do Memphis, or your "near win".
Good luck with football this year. I personally hope to see Memphis take the west division within a couple of seasons.
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Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
Past is the past, but the giant is waking up and has full support behind it. I prefer the East, but the West makes more sense especially under Fuente. This is the first year that Fuente has all scholarships filled and we will be nasty on defense. I'm very excited about our future.
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RE: Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
Memphis football is about to take its fair share of the rope pulling the AAC up to where we all want it to be.
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RE: Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
(06-01-2014 11:38 AM)Knightsweat Wrote: (06-01-2014 10:40 AM)TripleA Wrote: (06-01-2014 07:46 AM)KnightLight Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:12 AM)TripleA Wrote: (05-31-2014 06:09 AM)KnightLight Wrote: Memphis is 0-9 vs UCF in conf games so just not having to play the Knights ever year is practically a free W for the Tigers.
Pretty feisty for a fan of a team that almost had its entire best season ever ruined by the hapless Tigers. You got lucky in the last two minutes. Twice. Try to be a little more humble. It doesn't hurt.
Would ALMOST being 1-8 listed above look any better?
No, not the point. Of course UCF is dominant in the series. No argument. I'm simply saying that I doubt you would be bragging so much if we had managed somehow to pull out that game in our most recent meeting. It would have wrecked your season and eliminated your chance at the BCS Bowl.
Just close enough that one would think a slight bit of humility might be in order. :)
Definitely fishing for a moral victory. You guys lost, just man up. Our humility or lack thereof has nothing to do Memphis, or your "near win".
Good luck with football this year. I personally hope to see Memphis take the west division within a couple of seasons.
You are completely missing the point. I'm not fishing for a damn thing. I didn't start this silly crap. Your buddy simply took another gratuitous shot at Memphis, for no reason. He's so obsessed, he even comes to our board and does the same thing.
You really want to defend that?
(This post was last modified: 06-01-2014 07:16 PM by TripleA.)
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RE: Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
(06-01-2014 06:00 PM)tigerjeb Wrote: Memphis football is about to take its fair share of the rope pulling the AAC up to where we all want it to be.
There are a fair number of us that have personally witnessed 1 win seasons and undefeated season and have as objective of a view of Memphis football as any loyal fan can and I honestly believe that the above is a true statement. The boat turns slowly when the momentum is so one-sided; but it's turning.
(This post was last modified: 06-02-2014 09:14 PM by oldtiger.)
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RE: Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
(06-01-2014 07:15 PM)TripleA Wrote: (06-01-2014 11:38 AM)Knightsweat Wrote: (06-01-2014 10:40 AM)TripleA Wrote: (06-01-2014 07:46 AM)KnightLight Wrote: (05-31-2014 10:12 AM)TripleA Wrote: Pretty feisty for a fan of a team that almost had its entire best season ever ruined by the hapless Tigers. You got lucky in the last two minutes. Twice. Try to be a little more humble. It doesn't hurt.
Would ALMOST being 1-8 listed above look any better?
No, not the point. Of course UCF is dominant in the series. No argument. I'm simply saying that I doubt you would be bragging so much if we had managed somehow to pull out that game in our most recent meeting. It would have wrecked your season and eliminated your chance at the BCS Bowl.
Just close enough that one would think a slight bit of humility might be in order. :)
Definitely fishing for a moral victory. You guys lost, just man up. Our humility or lack thereof has nothing to do Memphis, or your "near win".
Good luck with football this year. I personally hope to see Memphis take the west division within a couple of seasons.
You are completely missing the point. I'm not fishing for a damn thing. I didn't start this silly crap. Your buddy simply took another gratuitous shot at Memphis, for no reason. He's so obsessed, he even comes to our board and does the same thing.
You really want to defend that?
Most UCF fans would consider being called his "buddy" an insult. I also expect to see Memphis win the west very soon.
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RE: Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
Memphis is one of those schools with a lot of potential, and some history. They could be just like Cincy or even the villainous 'Ville, specially with Texas recruiting. Could even see them become as good as Tennessee or better. I'd like Memphis if it wasnt for their fans
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RE: Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
(06-01-2014 09:41 PM)UCF_SystemsEng Wrote: (06-01-2014 07:15 PM)TripleA Wrote: (06-01-2014 11:38 AM)Knightsweat Wrote: (06-01-2014 10:40 AM)TripleA Wrote: (06-01-2014 07:46 AM)KnightLight Wrote: Would ALMOST being 1-8 listed above look any better?
No, not the point. Of course UCF is dominant in the series. No argument. I'm simply saying that I doubt you would be bragging so much if we had managed somehow to pull out that game in our most recent meeting. It would have wrecked your season and eliminated your chance at the BCS Bowl.
Just close enough that one would think a slight bit of humility might be in order. :)
Definitely fishing for a moral victory. You guys lost, just man up. Our humility or lack thereof has nothing to do Memphis, or your "near win".
Good luck with football this year. I personally hope to see Memphis take the west division within a couple of seasons.
You are completely missing the point. I'm not fishing for a damn thing. I didn't start this silly crap. Your buddy simply took another gratuitous shot at Memphis, for no reason. He's so obsessed, he even comes to our board and does the same thing.
You really want to defend that?
Most UCF fans would consider being called his "buddy" an insult. I also expect to see Memphis win the west very soon.
This. You know nothing of me, but I'm no buddy of KL.
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RE: Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
(06-01-2014 09:55 PM)DexterDevil Wrote: Memphis is one of those schools with a lot of potential, and some history. They could be just like Cincy or even the villainous 'Ville, specially with Texas recruiting. Could even see them become as good as Tennessee or better. I'd like Memphis if it wasnt for their fans
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What's wrong with our fans?
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RE: Personal Opinion: Memphis will benefit from being in the West
(06-01-2014 10:31 PM)Knightsweat Wrote: (06-01-2014 09:41 PM)UCF_SystemsEng Wrote: (06-01-2014 07:15 PM)TripleA Wrote: (06-01-2014 11:38 AM)Knightsweat Wrote: (06-01-2014 10:40 AM)TripleA Wrote: No, not the point. Of course UCF is dominant in the series. No argument. I'm simply saying that I doubt you would be bragging so much if we had managed somehow to pull out that game in our most recent meeting. It would have wrecked your season and eliminated your chance at the BCS Bowl.
Just close enough that one would think a slight bit of humility might be in order. :)
Definitely fishing for a moral victory. You guys lost, just man up. Our humility or lack thereof has nothing to do Memphis, or your "near win".
Good luck with football this year. I personally hope to see Memphis take the west division within a couple of seasons.
You are completely missing the point. I'm not fishing for a damn thing. I didn't start this silly crap. Your buddy simply took another gratuitous shot at Memphis, for no reason. He's so obsessed, he even comes to our board and does the same thing.
You really want to defend that?
Most UCF fans would consider being called his "buddy" an insult. I also expect to see Memphis win the west very soon.
This. You know nothing of me, but I'm no buddy of KL.
It was hard for me to tell exactly who was being referred to in this string until I looked to see who had posted on the Memphis board recently. It all made sense then.
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