It's time to wake the F up, Libertarians. Get on board and stop farting around with dumb*** crap like the drug war and some program that gives two craps about what you are taking about on your cell phone.

Unless you are okay with your little girl going to the bathroom with whatever the left comes up with next.

LazyTom, I can't believe you're defending this. You're really a sick puppy. You'd be a hero in Sodom, probably the mayor.

(05-30-2014 11:53 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 11:49 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 11:45 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 11:42 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  This amounts to nothing but moral degradation.

Exactly how? Do you think that Transgenders will use this law to commit crimes? If so, how do explain the fact that other places have had the same law in place for over 30 years and exactly ZERO cases of that have been the case.

It has nothing to do with crime Tom.

It's moral degradation. It's pushing abnormality as normality.

No one is going to 'choose' to be transgendered just because they have access to a bathroom.

That is your opinion. Understand that there are people who don't live under your dictates. Its in everyone's interest that they can participate fully in our society.

I never said they would.

Why do I have to live under your dictates? Embracing your abnormality and those of others is your choice, your opinion. There is no difference in the level or weight of our opinions, except that transgenders are mentally ill.

(05-30-2014 11:54 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  It's time to wake the F up, Libertarians. Get on board and stop farting around with dumb*** crap like the drug war and some program that gives two craps about what you are taking about on your cell phone.

Unless you are okay with your little girl going to the bathroom with whatever the left comes up with next.

Big brother didn't hear you. Could you lean a little closer to the potted plant?

(05-30-2014 11:56 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 11:54 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  It's time to wake the F up, Libertarians. Get on board and stop farting around with dumb*** crap like the drug war and some program that gives two craps about what you are taking about on your cell phone.

Unless you are okay with your little girl going to the bathroom with whatever the left comes up with next.

Big brother didn't hear you. Could you lean a little closer to the potted plant?

Wake up

Tom, its not just trannies able to go into the women's rest room... it's ALL men, regardless of sexual preference or how they dress, that is guaranteed to end up bad.

(05-30-2014 11:56 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 11:56 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 11:54 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  It's time to wake the F up, Libertarians. Get on board and stop farting around with dumb*** crap like the drug war and some program that gives two craps about what you are taking about on your cell phone.

Unless you are okay with your little girl going to the bathroom with whatever the left comes up with next.

Big brother didn't hear you. Could you lean a little closer to the potted plant?

Wake up

Oh, I get it now. What you find offensive is somehow more important than what I find offensive.

Well, when the jackbooted thugs kick in your door, you won't be bitching about where the gays go pee.

(05-30-2014 11:29 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  A few issues

1) Mayor Parker was 1 of 17 persons voting on this. It passed 11-6. 2 of Houston's 7 Republicans on Council voted for the bill.
2) There has never been a case where a transgendered person has used the restroom and committed a crime. Never.
3) The opponents of this bill are largely from outside of Houston and are led by a Pastor who has a problem with (straight) child rapists in his church http://www.khou.com/news/crime/Youth-pas...22381.html and a Prosperity Gospel clown with a chain of megachurches outside of Houston.
4) This bill simply allows Houstonians to live free of discrimination in public accommodations, housing, and employment.
5) We will raise millions of dollars to defend this ordinance. We knew there'd be a ballot recall attempt. Not surprised.

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Who here wants a person appearing to be a male to use the woman's restroom? Because if you oppose that law, that's what you're advocating. Or a woman using the men's room? How would you explain that to your kids.

Unless you want to say that Transgendered persons should be barred from using public restrooms, aka like African Americans in Jim Crow commerical districts.

Funny, you're always so quick to relate homosexuals to blacks. Those two groups will NEVER be relative to each other.

(05-30-2014 11:53 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 11:49 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 11:45 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 11:42 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  This amounts to nothing but moral degradation.

Exactly how? Do you think that Transgenders will use this law to commit crimes? If so, how do explain the fact that other places have had the same law in place for over 30 years and exactly ZERO cases of that have been the case.

It has nothing to do with crime Tom.

It's moral degradation. It's pushing abnormality as normality.

No one is going to 'choose' to be transgendered just because they have access to a bathroom. These are not transvestites, or drag queens, or cross dressers either. There's a difference. I get that there's a lot of misinformation or low information out there.

That is your opinion. Understand that there are people who don't live under your dictates. Its in everyone's interest that they can participate fully in our society.

If you have a dick, use the men's, if you have a twat, use the women's.

(05-30-2014 11:54 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  LazyTom, I can't believe you're defending this. You're really a sick puppy. You'd be a hero in Sodom, probably the mayor.

I was present at the planning sessions on the creation of this bill. I fully and completely support mandating restroom access for members of our Transgendered community. I believe that the best and safest way to enable this is to allow people to use the bathroom consistent with the gender they are presenting.

I've already got my donation ready to defend this bill. It'l be a very large donation.

I've personally lobbied for the bill. I'm not the leader of the movement, but I'm definately a part of it.

And the bill no longer has any bathroom provisions in it.

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We had a discussion regarding whether to include equal access provisions in this law. Our opinion is that Riggle and Young and Dave Wilson would get this on the ballot and lie about it anyway regardless of what was in it, so lets just go for all protections. It only takes 17,000 signatures (public) to put this on the ballot. We're expecting a ballot fight. We'll be fully funded. And we've been working Houston companies and politicians and groups for several years on this. We've got our ducks in a row on this one.

We have the Houston business community behind this. We have the African American leadership behind this. We have the Hispanic leadership behind this. We have all of the Asian leadership supporting this. We have sizeable groups of Republicans supporting this. The other side has Jared Woodfill, ultra conservative churches, and people outside of Houston opposing this. It will be a fight, but we're ready.

Okay, Riggle/Wilson/Young, how many millions of dollars do you want to spend to try and repeal a non-discrimination bill? Because thats what this bill is about.

We're ready. Its not 1985 anymore.

I guarantee that when the tourist trade tapers off because normal people from other parts of Houston don't want to deal with this perversion they'll regret passing this stupid law. I hope it hurts Houston where it hurts them the most, the pocketbook.

What about public schools, Lazytom, you cannot even understand that you are creating more problems than you solve. Regressive politics.

(05-30-2014 12:19 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  What about public schools, Lazytom, you cannot even understand that you are creating more problems than you solve. Regressive politics.

What about the public schools? They already mandate gender presentation access to restrooms. Over a year now....problems...0

(05-30-2014 12:14 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I guarantee that when the tourist trade tapers off because normal people from other parts of Houston don't want to deal with this perversion they'll regret passing this stupid law. I hope it hurts Houston where it hurts them the most, the pocketbook.

Actually the Travel groups and the Houston Business Alliance support this bill.

These protections have existed for years (in some cases, decades) in literally hundreds of other cities and states. Problems.....none.

This bill is about employment and public accommodations. Its good for business and good for tourism.

(05-30-2014 12:10 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 11:54 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  LazyTom, I can't believe you're defending this. You're really a sick puppy. You'd be a hero in Sodom, probably the mayor.

I was present at the planning sessions on the creation of this bill. I fully and completely support mandating restroom access for members of our Transgendered community. I believe that the best and safest way to enable this is to allow people to use the bathroom consistent with the gender they are presenting.

I've already got my donation ready to defend this bill. It'l be a very large donation.

I've personally lobbied for the bill. I'm not the leader of the movement, but I'm definately a part of it.

And the bill no longer has any bathroom provisions in it.

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We had a discussion regarding whether to include equal access provisions in this law. Our opinion is that Riggle and Young and Dave Wilson would get this on the ballot and lie about it anyway regardless of what was in it, so lets just go for all protections. It only takes 17,000 signatures (public) to put this on the ballot. We're expecting a ballot fight. We'll be fully funded. And we've been working Houston companies and politicians and groups for several years on this. We've got our ducks in a row on this one.

We have the Houston business community behind this. We have the African American leadership behind this. We have the Hispanic leadership behind this. We have all of the Asian leadership supporting this. We have sizeable groups of Republicans supporting this. The other side has Jared Woodfill, ultra conservative churches, and people outside of Houston opposing this. It will be a fight, but we're ready.

Okay, Riggle/Wilson/Young, how many millions of dollars do you want to spend to try and repeal a non-discrimination bill? Because thats what this bill is about.

We're ready. Its not 1985 anymore.

Just be ready for the normals to fight back.

I used to think the only difference between political ideologies is simply where we
draw the line on certain issues, but recently the left seems to have no such limitations.

I just want to know what the Liberals endgame is?

Here's what happened in Atlanta this week. There's video.

Jim Crow has a sister who is almost as evil. Her name is Jane Crow.

http://roygbiv.jezebel.com/trans-women-a...socialflow

(05-30-2014 01:04 PM)AngryAphid Wrote:  I used to think the only difference between political ideologies is simply where we
draw the line on certain issues, but recently the left seems to have no such limitations.

I just want to know what the Liberals endgame is?

Much like the gays endgame, they'll never tell. To you, or anyone.




We gays demand special rights, and we won't stop even after we get them!

(05-30-2014 01:04 PM)AngryAphid Wrote:  I used to think the only difference between political ideologies is simply where we
draw the line on certain issues, but recently the left seems to have no such limitations.

I just want to know what the Liberals endgame is?

Equality.

(05-30-2014 12:14 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I guarantee that when the tourist trade tapers off because normal people from other parts of Houston don't want to deal with this perversion they'll regret passing this stupid law. I hope it hurts Houston where it hurts them the most, the pocketbook.

When I make travel plans, public restroom accommodations rarely play a role in them.