And why?

Just curious.

Would be surprised if they are not added as full members soon.
Not too much opposition it seems.

Their basketball is a plus to the SBC. They should be added asap.

Nothing against them personally, I just prefer a tighter geographical footprint for the conference. Benson talks about less money games in football, but trips to New Mexico for non revenue sports would have to be paid for by someone.


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We have heard so many scenarios the last few months, but yet no
action evidently, makes you think the SBC presidents have something
different in mind than what we are considering.

(05-19-2014 11:55 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  We have heard so many scenarios the last few months, but yet no
action evidently, makes you think the SBC presidents have something
different in mind than what we are considering.

The number of scenarios themselves ~ each with their obvious downsides that have been aired by the opponents of each move here ~ could all on their own explain the decision to put off making a decision. You only need 4 schools favoring one move, 4 schools favoring a second move and 3 schools favoring a third to have gridlock on the way to a 9-2 vote in favor.

And several of the scenarios can't happen in this year anyway, so some "wait and see what happens" votes can come from schools who are really thinking "give my preferred option time to mature".

Benson is declared in favor of a 12/12 model, which narrows down the possible ways to do an NMSU all-sports add, and some opposition could be opposition to the other moving piece.

It would be interesting to have an insider's view of the whip count against NMSU all-sports in some form or other, and how many of those are schools who weren't even a gleam in the Sunbelt's eyes last time NMSU was an all-sports member.

Going back seems as if the only one school most seemed to agree about
adding was JMU.

(05-19-2014 12:15 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Going back seems as if the only one school most seemed to agree about adding was JMU.

Yes, that seems the only potential FCS-transition both clearly ready to move up and likely to get a 9-2 vote or better. That JMU didn't want the spot is not an unusual situation ... the ideal realignment partner from a conference's perspective is typically a member already or has some reason that they aren't.

"JMU sees sense and realizes that they are assigning the potential opening in the Sunbelt the full value it deserves" would be among the "wait and see" option, since that would be a likely slow process of evolution.

I believe the plan remains to add an eastern all-sports member. Possibly that could be Eastern Kentucky next year or maybe Missouri St..

(05-19-2014 12:23 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I believe the plan remains to add an eastern all-sports member. Possibly that could be Eastern Kentucky next year or maybe Missouri St..

Would EKU be ready to join next year?

At least Missouri State has their luxury box addition and brushing up of their away stand underway ... but would Missouri State be an eastern add?

Who is against NMSU all sports?

Communists.

I apparently have no dog left in the fight based on today's media reports, but NMSU remains a serious geographical outlier with subpar Olympics in everything except men's hoops. And even that program isn't quite as strong as some are suggesting having been unable to win a regular season title in seven seasons in a league made up of random pieces holding on for dear life. But they certainly do a have a great history.

(05-19-2014 12:23 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I believe the plan remains to add an eastern all-sports member. Possibly that could be Eastern Kentucky next year or maybe Missouri St..

Wouldn't consider Missouri State Eastern.

(05-19-2014 12:39 PM)SlyFox Wrote:  I apparently have no dog left in the fight based on today's media reports, but NMSU remains a serious geographical outlier with subpar Olympics in everything except men's hoops. And even that program isn't quite as strong as some are suggesting having been unable to win a regular season title in seven seasons in a league made up of random pieces holding on for dear life. But they certainly do a have a great history.

You still have a dog in the fight. Just probably not this year.

Oddly enough, adding NMSU probably helps LU over UMass because it would start the move to all sports and leave Idaho (who has a 'kick out clause') as the only football only.

Their men's basketball success is a huge advantage for them. We already have their football, so lets at least get a benefit from basketball as part of the deal is the thought process.

Makes it a more odd move last year concerning NMSU and Idaho if they are not adding a 12th team.

(05-19-2014 12:39 PM)SlyFox Wrote:  I apparently have no dog left in the fight based on today's media reports, but NMSU remains a serious geographical outlier with subpar Olympics in everything except men's hoops.

When I asked the question whether NMSU's baseball this year is typical or unusual, several on this board suggested that they are normally above par in baseball.

Indeed, the argument by western schools that Sunbelt has NMSU's worst sports, may as well get their better ones seems likely focused on BBall first, daylight second, baseball third, and "didn't check before making the statement because none of the others matter as much" finishing out of the money in a big crowd behind.

BBall may only play a secondary role in conference realignment, but it takes unusual circumstances for any other sport to play any role ~ meeting some NCAA requirement, some special concern of particular schools (eg, Maryland and Big Ten Lacrosse), or something like that. Normally its a case of FB first by a massive margin, BBall the remaining consideration, and the other sports coming into play when toting up the travel costs associated with the expansion.

(05-19-2014 12:39 PM)SlyFox Wrote:  I apparently have no dog left in the fight based on today's media reports, but NMSU remains a serious geographical outlier with subpar Olympics in everything except men's hoops. And even that program isn't quite as strong as some are suggesting having been unable to win a regular season title in seven seasons in a league made up of random pieces holding on for dear life. But they certainly do a have a great history.

Do not belittle my school's oly-sports. MBB may have not won regular season championships, but you left out the fact that we have won 4 out of the last 5 years WAC Tournament Championships,also in 2007. Won regular season in 2008. Our Volleyball has won back to back WAC Championships (2012-13) and regular season in 2013. They have also been in the top 25 in attendence since 2005. Men's Golf have been WAC Conference Champs (2006,2008-11, 2013-14). Women's Golf Were the WAC Conference Champs this year. Men's and Women's Tennis were in the WAC Conference finals this year.

I have not seen an NMSU fan say anything negative about LU and I will not start to either.

(05-19-2014 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  And why?

Just curious.

I'm pretty certain there are several ADs of eastern schools that are not in favor of adding NMSU because of the expense of travel for all sports.

(05-19-2014 12:39 PM)SlyFox Wrote:  I apparently have no dog left in the fight based on today's media reports, but NMSU remains a serious geographical outlier with subpar Olympics in everything except men's hoops. And even that program isn't quite as strong as some are suggesting having been unable to win a regular season title in seven seasons in a league made up of random pieces holding on for dear life. But they certainly do a have a great history.

You are currently not a member, so yes move along.

(05-19-2014 11:46 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  Nothing against them personally, I just prefer a tighter geographical footprint for the conference. Benson talks about less money games in football, but trips to New Mexico for non revenue sports would have to be paid for by someone.


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Youre already going to San Antonio, TX for Texas State. El Paso, TX is just a few more minutes of a flight.