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(05-12-2014 11:22 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
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(05-09-2014 04:10 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  I've never understood comments by Tech fans lording their superiority over ULM. After having been to Ruston, Monroe and Lafayette it is even harder to understand. From what I can tell Tech gets its TV coverage and airport service from Monroe. Seems like a tad bit of envy to me.

You could not be more wrong in you're assumption. Go over to the CUSA board and count the number of threads where ULM is ever mentioned. UL-L is mentioned on that forum occasionally, usually in a thread concerning a possible next round of realignment. Most of the time it stays pretty civil and doesn't turn into a UL-L bashing thread. Tech, on the other hand, is constantly brought up and bashed in threads on this board. So I ask you, just who is it that is envious of who? I think the answer is pretty obvious. And for the record, the vast majority of Tech fans view UL-L differently than they view ULM. When you lump those two together in a discussion, you lose any credibility you might have had.

Considering this is an SBC Board, ULM is an SBC Member, and you have a few former rivals playing in this league, we're probably not going to do what we can to stand with ULM.

That and Tech's refusal to play ULM reminds me very similarly of Arkansas refusal to play ASU...but in that case, at least Arkansas is a major SEC Team in state. Not even ASU fans question they are a more well known program.

Tech's refusal is kind of silly because nationally Tech and ULM are held at the same level. The only people who actually believe Tech the superior institution are Tech fans, a few CUSA fans who are doing it to support Tech, and a few Cajun fans who are doing it because they hate ULM.

If you believe that then you have no clue as to what you're talking about.
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(05-12-2014 12:57 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 11:22 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-11-2014 09:30 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-09-2014 04:10 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  I've never understood comments by Tech fans lording their superiority over ULM. After having been to Ruston, Monroe and Lafayette it is even harder to understand. From what I can tell Tech gets its TV coverage and airport service from Monroe. Seems like a tad bit of envy to me.

You could not be more wrong in you're assumption. Go over to the CUSA board and count the number of threads where ULM is ever mentioned. UL-L is mentioned on that forum occasionally, usually in a thread concerning a possible next round of realignment. Most of the time it stays pretty civil and doesn't turn into a UL-L bashing thread. Tech, on the other hand, is constantly brought up and bashed in threads on this board. So I ask you, just who is it that is envious of who? I think the answer is pretty obvious. And for the record, the vast majority of Tech fans view UL-L differently than they view ULM. When you lump those two together in a discussion, you lose any credibility you might have had.

Considering this is an SBC Board, ULM is an SBC Member, and you have a few former rivals playing in this league, we're probably not going to do what we can to stand with ULM.

That and Tech's refusal to play ULM reminds me very similarly of Arkansas refusal to play ASU...but in that case, at least Arkansas is a major SEC Team in state. Not even ASU fans question they are a more well known program.

Tech's refusal is kind of silly because nationally Tech and ULM are held at the same level. The only people who actually believe Tech the superior institution are Tech fans, a few CUSA fans who are doing it to support Tech, and a few Cajun fans who are doing it because they hate ULM.

If you believe that then you have no clue as to what you're talking about.

Believe what? That Tech and ULM are seen as equal level programs athletically?

Well...yes. Its the G5...as time goes on, you're going to see this continue in all leagues. There is just not enough national knowledge in Tech or ULM for anyone to think that one is far superior to the other.
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
(05-12-2014 12:57 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 11:22 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-11-2014 09:30 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-09-2014 04:10 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  I've never understood comments by Tech fans lording their superiority over ULM. After having been to Ruston, Monroe and Lafayette it is even harder to understand. From what I can tell Tech gets its TV coverage and airport service from Monroe. Seems like a tad bit of envy to me.

You could not be more wrong in you're assumption. Go over to the CUSA board and count the number of threads where ULM is ever mentioned. UL-L is mentioned on that forum occasionally, usually in a thread concerning a possible next round of realignment. Most of the time it stays pretty civil and doesn't turn into a UL-L bashing thread. Tech, on the other hand, is constantly brought up and bashed in threads on this board. So I ask you, just who is it that is envious of who? I think the answer is pretty obvious. And for the record, the vast majority of Tech fans view UL-L differently than they view ULM. When you lump those two together in a discussion, you lose any credibility you might have had.

Considering this is an SBC Board, ULM is an SBC Member, and you have a few former rivals playing in this league, we're probably not going to do what we can to stand with ULM.

That and Tech's refusal to play ULM reminds me very similarly of Arkansas refusal to play ASU...but in that case, at least Arkansas is a major SEC Team in state. Not even ASU fans question they are a more well known program.

Tech's refusal is kind of silly because nationally Tech and ULM are held at the same level. The only people who actually believe Tech the superior institution are Tech fans, a few CUSA fans who are doing it to support Tech, and a few Cajun fans who are doing it because they hate ULM.

If you believe that then you have no clue as to what you're talking about.

Let's see....in terms of Tech's silly 'separation' stance, the only thing that is relevant is record since 2001, when Tech burned every bridge leading out of Ruston toward any SBC school and declared themselves too good to associate with any of us. BTW, ULM only got into the Sun Belt because Tech left, so Tech inadvertently helped their neighbor out by running away from them.

So... from the 2001 season to date Tech is 75-83 ... 2 WAC championships [2001 and 2011] and three bowl games, in which they are 1-2.

I might add that in games against former Sun Belt Schools now in CUSA, Tech is a magnificent 1-1.

Really stellar there, don't you think?

By way of comparison, the lowly Cajuns, who were the laughingstock of FBS for about 5 years after 2001, are 71-85 ... 2 SBC championships [2007 and 2013] and three bowl games, in which they are 3-0.

Nothing to write home about, until the last three years, but very comparable to Tech overall.

The one area in which I, as a Cajun fan, will concede superiority to Tech is it its ability to self-promote. They are unequaled in that skill.
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
(05-12-2014 01:25 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 12:57 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 11:22 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-11-2014 09:30 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-09-2014 04:10 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  I've never understood comments by Tech fans lording their superiority over ULM. After having been to Ruston, Monroe and Lafayette it is even harder to understand. From what I can tell Tech gets its TV coverage and airport service from Monroe. Seems like a tad bit of envy to me.

You could not be more wrong in you're assumption. Go over to the CUSA board and count the number of threads where ULM is ever mentioned. UL-L is mentioned on that forum occasionally, usually in a thread concerning a possible next round of realignment. Most of the time it stays pretty civil and doesn't turn into a UL-L bashing thread. Tech, on the other hand, is constantly brought up and bashed in threads on this board. So I ask you, just who is it that is envious of who? I think the answer is pretty obvious. And for the record, the vast majority of Tech fans view UL-L differently than they view ULM. When you lump those two together in a discussion, you lose any credibility you might have had.

Considering this is an SBC Board, ULM is an SBC Member, and you have a few former rivals playing in this league, we're probably not going to do what we can to stand with ULM.

That and Tech's refusal to play ULM reminds me very similarly of Arkansas refusal to play ASU...but in that case, at least Arkansas is a major SEC Team in state. Not even ASU fans question they are a more well known program.

Tech's refusal is kind of silly because nationally Tech and ULM are held at the same level. The only people who actually believe Tech the superior institution are Tech fans, a few CUSA fans who are doing it to support Tech, and a few Cajun fans who are doing it because they hate ULM.

If you believe that then you have no clue as to what you're talking about.

Let's see....in terms of Tech's silly 'separation' stance, the only thing that is relevant is record since 2001, when Tech burned every bridge leading out of Ruston toward any SBC school and declared themselves too good to associate with any of us. BTW, ULM only got into the Sun Belt because Tech left, so Tech inadvertently helped their neighbor out by running away from them.

So... from the 2001 season to date Tech is 75-83 ... 2 WAC championships [2001 and 2011] and three bowl games, in which they are 1-2.

I might add that in games against former Sun Belt Schools now in CUSA, Tech is a magnificent 1-1.

Really stellar there, don't you think?

By way of comparison, the lowly Cajuns, who were the laughingstock of FBS for about 5 years after 2001, are 71-85 ... 2 SBC championships [2007 and 2013] and three bowl games, in which they are 3-0.

Nothing to write home about, until the last three years, but very comparable to Tech overall.

The one area in which I, as a Cajun fan, will concede superiority to Tech is it its ability to self-promote. They are unequaled in that skill.

I wouldn't even give them that. They are unequaled in their desire to self promote. I wouldn't call it ability, because that implies that it is effective.
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Until just a couple of years ago, I thought ULM, ULL, or LaTech were all named the Cajuns. As far as I knew all 3 were the same
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"I wouldn't even give them that. They are unequaled in their desire to self promote. I wouldn't call it ability, because that implies that it is effective."

It has been effective. They lied about their market. They lied about their budget. They lied about their academics. All to get into CUSA. It worked.

They have the blonde moron spouting how great Tech is on a national platform every week in the fall, and media types have bought it. They don't look up the fact that Tech is not in the Shreveport market, that they are a clear # 4 in research dollars among Louisiana public Universities, that they gave unaudited budget numbers to CUSA that lied by roughly $3,000,000/yr, or that they have a losing record in football since joining 1-A in 1989 [142-146-3].
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(05-12-2014 01:40 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  "I wouldn't even give them that. They are unequaled in their desire to self promote. I wouldn't call it ability, because that implies that it is effective."

It has been effective. They lied about their market. They lied about their budget. They lied about their academics. All to get into CUSA. It worked.

They have the blonde moron spouting how great Tech is on a national platform every week in the fall, and media types have bought it. They don't look up the fact that Tech is not in the Shreveport market, that they are a clear # 4 in research dollars among Louisiana public Universities, that they gave unaudited budget numbers to CUSA that lied by roughly $3,000,000/yr, or that they have a losing record in football since joining 1-A in 1989 [142-146-3].

ULM's big win over Arkansas, who at the time was perceived to be very good, the next week overtime loss to Auburn, and near win over Baylor the following week made ULM media darlings for a month or two, but unfortunately we failed to capitalize on that. Tech turning down the Independence Bowl made them just look stupid. As for the Cajuns, I'll say it again, they are clearly the number 2 in the state behind LSU right now. Top 10 in baseball, top 10 in softball, three straight bowl wins, and a very good basketball team. Not to mention, they have the highest enrollment, a large population base, and are pumping money into building very, very impressive facilities. Still though, somehow ULM still manages to compete with them with the win in football this past year and a split in basketball. Softball also seems to be improved making it to the semifinals. Tech basketball is the only thing positive going for them right now, as football is terrible, baseball is terrible, and women's basketball is terrible. Tech doesn't want to play ULM now for sure because they would get beat and the Cajuns will skull drag them this fall. Believe it or not Tech fans, but you are not nationally perceived higher than either UL.
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(05-12-2014 01:40 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  "I wouldn't even give them that. They are unequaled in their desire to self promote. I wouldn't call it ability, because that implies that it is effective."

It has been effective. They lied about their market. They lied about their budget. They lied about their academics. All to get into CUSA. It worked.

They have the blonde moron spouting how great Tech is on a national platform every week in the fall, and media types have bought it. They don't look up the fact that Tech is not in the Shreveport market, that they are a clear # 4 in research dollars among Louisiana public Universities, that they gave unaudited budget numbers to CUSA that lied by roughly $3,000,000/yr, or that they have a losing record in football since joining 1-A in 1989 [142-146-3].

La Tech got in CUSA because they had a winning record in 2011. That's all.
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LT also fits the footprint of C-USA quite well, especially since Tulane is off to the Big Ea . . . American.
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(05-12-2014 01:39 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  Until just a couple of years ago, I thought ULM, ULL, or LaTech were all named the Cajuns. As far as I knew all 3 were the same

I can't help it if you are stupid.
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(05-12-2014 01:40 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  "I wouldn't even give them that. They are unequaled in their desire to self promote. I wouldn't call it ability, because that implies that it is effective."

It has been effective. They lied about their market. They lied about their budget. They lied about their academics. All to get into CUSA. It worked.

They have the blonde moron spouting how great Tech is on a national platform every week in the fall, and media types have bought it. They don't look up the fact that Tech is not in the Shreveport market, that they are a clear # 4 in research dollars among Louisiana public Universities, that they gave unaudited budget numbers to CUSA that lied by roughly $3,000,000/yr, or that they have a losing record in football since joining 1-A in 1989 [142-146-3].

You demonstrate perfectly the envy that was brought up in an earlier post in this thread. You shouldn't let Tech's success in getting into CUSA eat at you like it obviously does.
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(05-12-2014 01:11 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 12:57 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 11:22 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-11-2014 09:30 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-09-2014 04:10 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  I've never understood comments by Tech fans lording their superiority over ULM. After having been to Ruston, Monroe and Lafayette it is even harder to understand. From what I can tell Tech gets its TV coverage and airport service from Monroe. Seems like a tad bit of envy to me.

You could not be more wrong in you're assumption. Go over to the CUSA board and count the number of threads where ULM is ever mentioned. UL-L is mentioned on that forum occasionally, usually in a thread concerning a possible next round of realignment. Most of the time it stays pretty civil and doesn't turn into a UL-L bashing thread. Tech, on the other hand, is constantly brought up and bashed in threads on this board. So I ask you, just who is it that is envious of who? I think the answer is pretty obvious. And for the record, the vast majority of Tech fans view UL-L differently than they view ULM. When you lump those two together in a discussion, you lose any credibility you might have had.

Considering this is an SBC Board, ULM is an SBC Member, and you have a few former rivals playing in this league, we're probably not going to do what we can to stand with ULM.

That and Tech's refusal to play ULM reminds me very similarly of Arkansas refusal to play ASU...but in that case, at least Arkansas is a major SEC Team in state. Not even ASU fans question they are a more well known program.

Tech's refusal is kind of silly because nationally Tech and ULM are held at the same level. The only people who actually believe Tech the superior institution are Tech fans, a few CUSA fans who are doing it to support Tech, and a few Cajun fans who are doing it because they hate ULM.

If you believe that then you have no clue as to what you're talking about.

Believe what? That Tech and ULM are seen as equal level programs athletically?

Well...yes. Its the G5...as time goes on, you're going to see this continue in all leagues. There is just not enough national knowledge in Tech or ULM for anyone to think that one is far superior to the other.

This may well prove to be true for all of us in G-5 conferences. And it may happen sooner than we realize.
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(05-12-2014 04:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 01:40 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  "I wouldn't even give them that. They are unequaled in their desire to self promote. I wouldn't call it ability, because that implies that it is effective."

It has been effective. They lied about their market. They lied about their budget. They lied about their academics. All to get into CUSA. It worked.

They have the blonde moron spouting how great Tech is on a national platform every week in the fall, and media types have bought it. They don't look up the fact that Tech is not in the Shreveport market, that they are a clear # 4 in research dollars among Louisiana public Universities, that they gave unaudited budget numbers to CUSA that lied by roughly $3,000,000/yr, or that they have a losing record in football since joining 1-A in 1989 [142-146-3].

La Tech got in CUSA because they had a winning record in 2011. That's all.

Just how stupid can a person be?
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(05-12-2014 06:21 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 04:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 01:40 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  "I wouldn't even give them that. They are unequaled in their desire to self promote. I wouldn't call it ability, because that implies that it is effective."

It has been effective. They lied about their market. They lied about their budget. They lied about their academics. All to get into CUSA. It worked.

They have the blonde moron spouting how great Tech is on a national platform every week in the fall, and media types have bought it. They don't look up the fact that Tech is not in the Shreveport market, that they are a clear # 4 in research dollars among Louisiana public Universities, that they gave unaudited budget numbers to CUSA that lied by roughly $3,000,000/yr, or that they have a losing record in football since joining 1-A in 1989 [142-146-3].

La Tech got in CUSA because they had a winning record in 2011. That's all.

Just how stupid can a person be?

I stand by my comment. What have you done in the last 10 years? 1 bowl victory over a 6-7 team. Congrats. Or 7 wins over FBS teams that finished with winning records in 10 years.

If La Tech had finished 5-7 in 2011, you'd be in Sun Belt. I went and ran the numbers for the last 10 years (see earlier in the thread). You don't have anything on ULM. Nor does your CUSA membership carry any real 'separation' either.
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(05-12-2014 06:16 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 01:40 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  "I wouldn't even give them that. They are unequaled in their desire to self promote. I wouldn't call it ability, because that implies that it is effective."

It has been effective. They lied about their market. They lied about their budget. They lied about their academics. All to get into CUSA. It worked.

They have the blonde moron spouting how great Tech is on a national platform every week in the fall, and media types have bought it. They don't look up the fact that Tech is not in the Shreveport market, that they are a clear # 4 in research dollars among Louisiana public Universities, that they gave unaudited budget numbers to CUSA that lied by roughly $3,000,000/yr, or that they have a losing record in football since joining 1-A in 1989ft [142-146-3].
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You demonstrate perfectly the envy that was brought up in an earlier post in this thread. You shouldn't let Tech's success in getting into CUSA eat at you like it obviously does.

Believe me, I am not envious of tech. I have worked in Ruston and Farmerville and Minden and Homer and just about every other hick town in N. Louisiana. Hell, I quit a good job because they told me I would have to move to N. La.

I just marvel at how well you guys sold CUSA a sh*t sandwich.
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(05-12-2014 07:45 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 06:16 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 01:40 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  "I wouldn't even give them that. They are unequaled in their desire to self promote. I wouldn't call it ability, because that implies that it is effective."

It has been effective. They lied about their market. They lied about their budget. They lied about their academics. All to get into CUSA. It worked.

They have the blonde moron spouting how great Tech is on a national platform every week in the fall, and media types have bought it. They don't look up the fact that Tech is not in the Shreveport market, that they are a clear # 4 in research dollars among Louisiana public Universities, that they gave unaudited budget numbers to CUSA that lied by roughly $3,000,000/yr, or that they have a losing record in football since joining 1-A in 1989ft [142-146-3].
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You demonstrate perfectly the envy that was brought up in an earlier post in this thread. You shouldn't let Tech's success in getting into CUSA eat at you like it obviously does.

Believe me, I am not envious of tech. I have worked in Ruston and Farmerville and Minden and Homer and just about every other hick town in N. Louisiana. Hell, I quit a good job because they told me I would have to move to N. La.

I just marvel at how well you guys sold CUSA a sh*t sandwich.

Got to give Tech credit for working their rumps off for a decade to get into CUSA...as for BR's comment on your envy...no envy...more pizzed off at our Administration for being asleep at the switch
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(05-12-2014 08:42 PM)swampbear Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 07:45 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 06:16 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 01:40 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  "I wouldn't even give them that. They are unequaled in their desire to self promote. I wouldn't call it ability, because that implies that it is effective."

It has been effective. They lied about their market. They lied about their budget. They lied about their academics. All to get into CUSA. It worked.

They have the blonde moron spouting how great Tech is on a national platform every week in the fall, and media types have bought it. They don't look up the fact that Tech is not in the Shreveport market, that they are a clear # 4 in research dollars among Louisiana public Universities, that they gave unaudited budget numbers to CUSA that lied by roughly $3,000,000/yr, or that they have a losing record in football since joining 1-A in 1989ft [142-146-3].
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You demonstrate perfectly the envy that was brought up in an earlier post in this thread. You shouldn't let Tech's success in getting into CUSA eat at you like it obviously does.

Believe me, I am not envious of tech. I have worked in Ruston and Farmerville and Minden and Homer and just about every other hick town in N. Louisiana. Hell, I quit a good job because they told me I would have to move to N. La.

I just marvel at how well you guys sold CUSA a sh*t sandwich.

Got to give Tech credit for working their rumps off for a decade to get into CUSA...as for BR's comment on your envy...no envy...more pizzed off at our Administration for being asleep at the switch

No doubt, Bear. They worked hard, and did everything it took, whille our guys were sitting around doing a circle jerk.
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(05-12-2014 01:40 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  "I wouldn't even give them that. They are unequaled in their desire to self promote. I wouldn't call it ability, because that implies that it is effective."

It has been effective. They lied about their market. They lied about their budget. They lied about their academics. All to get into CUSA. It worked.

They have the blonde moron spouting how great Tech is on a national platform every week in the fall, and media types have bought it. They don't look up the fact that Tech is not in the Shreveport market, that they are a clear # 4 in research dollars among Louisiana public Universities, that they gave unaudited budget numbers to CUSA that lied by roughly $3,000,000/yr, or that they have a losing record in football since joining 1-A in 1989 [142-146-3].

La Tech got in CUSA because they had a winning record in 2011. That's all.

Just how stupid can a person be?

I stand by my comment. What have you done in the last 10 years? 1 bowl victory over a 6-7 team. Congrats. Or 7 wins over FBS teams that finished with winning records in 10 years.

If La Tech had finished 5-7 in 2011, you'd be in Sun Belt. I went and ran the numbers for the last 10 years (see earlier in the thread). You don't have anything on ULM. Nor does your CUSA membership carry any real 'separation' either.

I guess you won't be satisfied until you prove exactly just how stupid a person can be. Conference realignment is never about a single football or basketball season. It is about the total package a university has to offer. University presidents and chancellors are the ones that decide who is invited to join their conference, and academics play a very major role in their decisions. Also, I plainly stated earlier that Tech's membership in CUSA makes us members of a SEPARATE conference, not necessarily a better conference. That designation will have to be earned.
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
(05-13-2014 06:42 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 06:53 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 06:21 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 04:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 01:40 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  "I wouldn't even give them that. They are unequaled in their desire to self promote. I wouldn't call it ability, because that implies that it is effective."

It has been effective. They lied about their market. They lied about their budget. They lied about their academics. All to get into CUSA. It worked.

They have the blonde moron spouting how great Tech is on a national platform every week in the fall, and media types have bought it. They don't look up the fact that Tech is not in the Shreveport market, that they are a clear # 4 in research dollars among Louisiana public Universities, that they gave unaudited budget numbers to CUSA that lied by roughly $3,000,000/yr, or that they have a losing record in football since joining 1-A in 1989 [142-146-3].

La Tech got in CUSA because they had a winning record in 2011. That's all.

Just how stupid can a person be?

I stand by my comment. What have you done in the last 10 years? 1 bowl victory over a 6-7 team. Congrats. Or 7 wins over FBS teams that finished with winning records in 10 years.

If La Tech had finished 5-7 in 2011, you'd be in Sun Belt. I went and ran the numbers for the last 10 years (see earlier in the thread). You don't have anything on ULM. Nor does your CUSA membership carry any real 'separation' either.

I guess you won't be satisfied until you prove exactly just how stupid a person can be. Conference realignment is never about a single football or basketball season. It is about the total package a university has to offer. University presidents and chancellors are the ones that decide who is invited to join their conference, and academics play a very major role in their decisions. Also, I plainly stated earlier that Tech's membership in CUSA makes us members of a SEPARATE conference, not necessarily a better conference. That designation will have to be earned.

What's La Tech's resume? 1 bowl win in 10 years over a 6-7 team? 1 high profile loss in 10 years? Is that all? Academics? I'm not seeing it. Endowment? Not at all. Market? Not at all. I think CUSA was desperate for new members and decided on La Tech due to perception not matched by reality.

You seem to think I'm jealous of La Tech's membership in CUSA. I'm not. I'm just tired of La Tech's ridiculous assertion that they have separation over ULM.

Congrats on joining a conference ranked below that of the Sun Belt in football for 2 years running now.
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
(05-13-2014 10:28 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(05-13-2014 06:42 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 06:53 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 06:21 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 04:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  La Tech got in CUSA because they had a winning record in 2011. That's all.

Just how stupid can a person be?

I stand by my comment. What have you done in the last 10 years? 1 bowl victory over a 6-7 team. Congrats. Or 7 wins over FBS teams that finished with winning records in 10 years.

If La Tech had finished 5-7 in 2011, you'd be in Sun Belt. I went and ran the numbers for the last 10 years (see earlier in the thread). You don't have anything on ULM. Nor does your CUSA membership carry any real 'separation' either.

I guess you won't be satisfied until you prove exactly just how stupid a person can be. Conference realignment is never about a single football or basketball season. It is about the total package a university has to offer. University presidents and chancellors are the ones that decide who is invited to join their conference, and academics play a very major role in their decisions. Also, I plainly stated earlier that Tech's membership in CUSA makes us members of a SEPARATE conference, not necessarily a better conference. That designation will have to be earned.

What's La Tech's resume? 1 bowl win in 10 years over a 6-7 team? 1 high profile loss in 10 years? Is that all? Academics? I'm not seeing it. Endowment? Not at all. Market? Not at all. I think CUSA was desperate for new members and decided on La Tech due to perception not matched by reality.

You seem to think I'm jealous of La Tech's membership in CUSA. I'm not. I'm just tired of La Tech's ridiculous assertion that they have separation over ULM.

Congrats on joining a conference ranked below that of the Sun Belt in football for 2 years running now.

Tom, I don't know if you're an idiot or blind. Since Ulm joined div 1 football in 95 to 2011, they went 68-129 without one winning record and no bowl appearances. Absolutely awful. Everything they've done has been in the past 2 years. They're historically an awful football program. Time will tell if they keep any momentum from their only winning record in FBS football from 2 years ago.
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