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7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
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Quote:Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2014 7:43 am
By Luanne Rife | The Roanoke Times
Some Washington & Lee University law students want the university to live by its honor code and stop glorifying its namesake by acknowledging the dishonorable side of both Robert E. Lee and W&L.
Seven multiracial students, calling themselves The Committee, have demanded that W&L remove the flags of the Confederacy from the campus and Lee Chapel, acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery, recognize Martin Luther King Day on the undergraduate campus and ban neo-Confederates from marching across campus to the chapel on Lee-Jackson Day.
If their demands are not met by Sept. 1, they will engage in civil disobedience.
1- the last sentence proves they are extremists and should be charged with terrorism threats. Let them vandalize and arrest them. Make them examples.
2- they could have gone to ANY school, but CHOSE a school named after Confederate General Robert E. Lee.
3- Quote:Ruscio said W&L invites a prominent speaker during MLK Legacy Week; the undergraduate faculty decides whether classes are held on MLK day; the eight battle flags in Lee Chapel, representing armies of the Confederate States of America, are educational and historical, and the university does not observe Lee-Jackson Day.
4- The Constitution doesn't guarantee the right to not be offended
5- It's a private school
6-The Civil War started almost 2 years before the emancipation proclamation
I met a prick from Chicago last year on the Blue Ridge Parkway who was taking his pampered punk kid to visit W&L. I knew this was coming then... and it is the price to pay for "diversifying". He saw me on a sportbike, so probably assumed I was your typical Obama supporting Gen x'er. It only took a few words to get him back in his Prius and I'm certain they never returned.
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RE: 7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
Shake My Head.
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RE: 7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
(04-17-2014 09:07 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote: If their demands are not met by Sept. 1, they will engage in civil disobedience.
1- the last sentence proves they are extremists and should be charged with terrorism threats. Let them vandalize and arrest them. Make them examples.
Civil disobedience is not terrorism... Or am I just missing your sarcasm?
Quote:4- The Constitution doesn't guarantee the right to not be offended
True! And political discourse would improve markedly if everyone got this through their heads.
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RE: 7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
So let's cut to the chase. What are the chances these idiots get there way?
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RE: 7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
(04-17-2014 09:25 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote: So let's cut to the chase. What are the chances these idiots get there way?
Better than I would like...
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RE: 7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
Recognizing MLK day seems like it should have been done before. The rest...no. W&L is a historical site.
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Jerry Falwell
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RE: 7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
These morons need a history lesson. Some Robert E. Lee quotes:
Quote:In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country. It is useless to expatiate on its disadvantages. I think it however a greater evil to the white man than to the black race, & while my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more strong for the former.
Quote:I can anticipate no greater calamity for the country than a dissolution of the Union. It would be an accumulation of all the evils we complain of, and I am willing to sacrifice everything but honour for its preservation. I hope, therefore, that all constitutional means will be exhausted before there is a resort to force. Secession is nothing but revolution
Quote:... Still, a Union that can only be maintained by swords and bayonets, and in which strife and civil war are to take the place of brotherly love and kindness, has no charm for me. I shall mourn for my country and for the welfare and progress of mankind. If the Union is dissolved and the Government disrupted, I shall return to my native State and share the miseries of my people, and, save in defense will draw my sword on none.
Quote:What a cruel thing is war; to separate and destroy families and friends, and mar the purest joys and happiness God has granted us in this world; to fill our hearts with hatred instead of love for our neighbours, and to devastate the fair face of this beautiful world
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RE: 7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
(04-17-2014 09:18 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: (04-17-2014 09:07 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote: If their demands are not met by Sept. 1, they will engage in civil disobedience.
1- the last sentence proves they are extremists and should be charged with terrorism threats. Let them vandalize and arrest them. Make them examples.
Civil disobedience is not terrorism... Or am I just missing your sarcasm?
Half sarcasm - half because I suspect I know what they are threatening to do. I live fairly close to Lexington.
BTW - the road that goes from Lynchburg to Lexington is named "Lee-Jackson Highway" and the road from Roanoke to Lexington is "Lee Highway".
(This post was last modified: 04-17-2014 09:44 AM by Jerry Falwell.)
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RE: 7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
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Jerry Falwell
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RE: 7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
Fill his/her inbox.
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RE: 7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
(04-17-2014 09:42 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote: (04-17-2014 09:18 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: (04-17-2014 09:07 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote: If their demands are not met by Sept. 1, they will engage in civil disobedience.
1- the last sentence proves they are extremists and should be charged with terrorism threats. Let them vandalize and arrest them. Make them examples.
Civil disobedience is not terrorism... Or am I just missing your sarcasm?
Half sarcasm - half because I suspect I know what they are threatening to do. I live fairly close to Lexington.
BTW - the road that goes from Lynchburg to Lexington is named "Lee-Jackson Highway" and the road from Roanoke to Lexington is "Lee Highway".
Pfft. What Jerry doesn't tell you is that 80% of the roads throughout VA are named after Lee.
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RE: 7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
(04-17-2014 09:47 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote: Fill his/her inbox.
make sure to also tweet out that link.
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RE: 7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
Quote:That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.
The hostility to this institution commenced before the adoption of the Constitution, and was manifested in the well-known Ordinance of 1787, in regard to the Northwestern Territory.
The feeling increased, until, in 1819-20, it deprived the South of more than half the vast territory acquired from France.
The same hostility dismembered Texas and seized upon all the territory acquired from Mexico.
It tramples the original equality of the South under foot.
It has nullified the Fugitive Slave Law in almost every free State in the Union, and has utterly broken the compact which our fathers pledged their faith to maintain.
It has enlisted its press, its pulpit and its schools against us, until the whole popular mind of the North is excited and inflamed with prejudice.
It has made combinations and formed associations to carry out its schemes of emancipation in the States and wherever else slavery exists.
It seeks not to elevate or to support the slave, but to destroy his present condition without providing a better.
It has invaded a State, and invested with the honors of martyrdom the wretch whose purpose was to apply flames to our dwellings, and the weapons of destruction to our lives.
It has broken every compact into which it has entered for our security.
It has given indubitable evidence of its design to ruin our agriculture, to prostrate our industrial pursuits and to destroy our social system.
It knows no relenting or hesitation in its purposes; it stops not in its march of aggression, and leaves us no room to hope for cessation or for pause.
It has recently obtained control of the Government, by the prosecution of its unhallowed schemes, and destroyed the last expectation of living together in friendship and brotherhood.
Utter subjugation awaits us in the Union, if we should consent longer to remain in it. It is not a matter of choice, but of necessity.
We must either submit to degradation, and to the loss of property worth four billions of money, or we must secede from the Union framed by our fathers, to secure this as well as every other species of property. For far less cause than this, our fathers separated from the Crown of England.
Our decision is made. We follow their footsteps. We embrace the alternative of separation; and for the reasons here stated, we resolve to maintain our rights with the full consciousness of the justice of our course, and the undoubting belief of our ability to maintain it.
(This post was last modified: 04-17-2014 10:26 AM by Jerry Falwell.)
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RE: 7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
Tell these people to read a history book and actually know what they are speaking about. I assume that their issue is the Confederate Battle Flag. Well, not one slave was ever brought to this country on any ship flying that flag. Also, the war between the states was not fought over salvery!
The "road in between" Roanoke and Lexington, is US Highway 11.
Deo Vindice
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RE: 7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
(04-17-2014 10:26 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote: Tell these people to read a history book and actually know what they are speaking about. I assume that their issue is the Confederate Battle Flag. Well, not one slave was ever brought to this country on any ship flying that flag. Also, the war between the states was not fought over salvery!
The "road in between" Roanoke and Lexington, is US Highway 11.
Deo Vindice
US Highway 11 is Lee Highway... hence the truckstops, bowling lanes, etc named LEE HIGHWAY ______
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RE: 7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
Still a private school, right?
Thank them for their time and energies while in attendance and throw 'em out. Then ask who else would like to join them. What a bunch of snot nosed entitled little schits.
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RE: 7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
Good for the students...
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RE: 7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
(04-17-2014 10:26 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote: Also, the war between the states was not fought over salvery!
Not to beat this horse carcass any further, but Alexander Stephens disagrees.
Quote:The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution.
Quote:Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/libra...ne-speech/
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RE: 7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
I believe in peaceful free speech no matter how disgusting it is. While I admit that I lose a certain amount of respect for institutes or people who embrace them, I would never move to have them stop. Personally, I would never have gone to a school like that in the first place.
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RE: 7 Students @ Washington & LEE demand removal of Confederate Flags
(04-17-2014 12:22 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: I believe in peaceful free speech no matter how disgusting it is. While I admit that I lose a certain amount of respect for institutes or people who embrace them, I would never move to have them stop. Personally, I would never have gone to a school like that in the first place.
Agreed.
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