(03-30-2014 09:26 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 09:21 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I will say this : If Liberty is denied again this year it should be very clear that the presidents are simply not going to invite them unless the conference has to do so to survive.

So if June 1 comes and goes and Liberty is not invited I would think it is over for Liberty's chances with the Sun Belt.

You would think, but bet dollars to donuts it does little to help with the infestation.

The next rationale is that the Sun Belt is going to 14 to insulate from further defections/raids by CUSA/MAC/AAC/MWC.

(03-30-2014 09:21 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I will say this : If Liberty is denied again this year it should be very clear that the presidents are simply not going to invite them unless the conference has to do so to survive.

So if June 1 comes and goes and Liberty is not invited I would think it is over for Liberty's chances with the Sun Belt.

On the surface I agree. Liberty is pulling out all the stops apparently. If it's a unanimous vote or an overwhelming majority voting NO, then Liberty is done. But if it's only short 1 or 2 votes, they still have life

As for Benson, he's right. The SBC does need to advance and do so now if they want to remain relevant

Remain relevant...

I'd say waiting until we get the right 12th member would be viewed more favorably than adding a 12th just for numbers.

We understand the agenda you're pushing.

(03-31-2014 08:15 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Remain relevant...

I'd say waiting until we get the right 12th member would be viewed more favorably than adding a 12th just for numbers.

We understand the agenda you're pushing.

The Sun Belt's already added just for numbers sans football only additions New Mexico State and Idaho.

(03-31-2014 09:11 AM)pjc1979 Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 08:15 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Remain relevant...

I'd say waiting until we get the right 12th member would be viewed more favorably than adding a 12th just for numbers.

We understand the agenda you're pushing.

The Sun Belt's already added just for numbers sans football only additions New Mexico State and Idaho.

And while digesting the new additions and helping them to improve, there is no need to add another project unless it is a homerun addition. Liberty is far from that.

(03-31-2014 09:11 AM)pjc1979 Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 08:15 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Remain relevant...

I'd say waiting until we get the right 12th member would be viewed more favorably than adding a 12th just for numbers.

We understand the agenda you're pushing.

The Sun Belt's already added just for numbers sans football only additions New Mexico State and Idaho.

That was for security, which isn't a current issue.

There's no need for the Belt to add ANYONE. We have 11 teams. We won the G5 last year. We probably wont this year, with NMSU, Idaho coming in, App and Ga So moving up, and Ga State still transitioning.

Adding another moveup isn't a good thing. That being said, a CCG would be nice.

There are enough teams out there that the Belt need not worry about a raid. Liberty will still be there if we don't take them. Lord knows no one else will even consider taking them. Lamar is still there. EKU is still there. Jacksonville State is still there. JMU is still in FCS. So is Missouri State. Right now we have 9 continuing FBS teams in our conference. And 11 total teams. Does anyone think we lose 3 teams? I don't see that this year. Or next.

We could issue a 1 year contract to UMass, but make them join in 2015.

(03-31-2014 10:40 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 09:11 AM)pjc1979 Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 08:15 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Remain relevant...

I'd say waiting until we get the right 12th member would be viewed more favorably than adding a 12th just for numbers.

We understand the agenda you're pushing.

The Sun Belt's already added just for numbers sans football only additions New Mexico State and Idaho.

And while digesting the new additions and helping them to improve, there is no need to add another project unless it is a homerun addition. Liberty is far from that.

I'd say that applies to all the candidates at this point.

(03-31-2014 11:41 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 09:11 AM)pjc1979 Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 08:15 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Remain relevant...

I'd say waiting until we get the right 12th member would be viewed more favorably than adding a 12th just for numbers.

We understand the agenda you're pushing.

The Sun Belt's already added just for numbers sans football only additions New Mexico State and Idaho.

That was for security, which isn't a current issue.

Actually it was because they are FBS. Without them, I don't see how the Sunbelt helps 2 new FCS teams in transition and 1 or 2 still in transition.

(03-31-2014 06:26 AM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 09:21 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I will say this : If Liberty is denied again this year it should be very clear that the presidents are simply not going to invite them unless the conference has to do so to survive.

So if June 1 comes and goes and Liberty is not invited I would think it is over for Liberty's chances with the Sun Belt.

On the surface I agree. Liberty is pulling out all the stops apparently. If it's a unanimous vote or an overwhelming majority voting NO, then Liberty is done. But if it's only short 1 or 2 votes, they still have life

As for Benson, he's right. The SBC does need to advance and do so now if they want to remain relevant

If only Liberty could help them advance. Unfortunately they can not. The University of Phoenix at Lynchburg does nothing to advance the conference.

(04-02-2014 11:58 AM)asupatch Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 06:26 AM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 09:21 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I will say this : If Liberty is denied again this year it should be very clear that the presidents are simply not going to invite them unless the conference has to do so to survive.

So if June 1 comes and goes and Liberty is not invited I would think it is over for Liberty's chances with the Sun Belt.

On the surface I agree. Liberty is pulling out all the stops apparently. If it's a unanimous vote or an overwhelming majority voting NO, then Liberty is done. But if it's only short 1 or 2 votes, they still have life

As for Benson, he's right. The SBC does need to advance and do so now if they want to remain relevant

If only Liberty could help them advance. Unfortunately they can not. The University of Phoenix at Lynchburg does nothing to advance the conference.

Liberty and U Phoenix and the like should form their own conference.

(04-03-2014 07:32 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-02-2014 11:58 AM)asupatch Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 06:26 AM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 09:21 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I will say this : If Liberty is denied again this year it should be very clear that the presidents are simply not going to invite them unless the conference has to do so to survive.

So if June 1 comes and goes and Liberty is not invited I would think it is over for Liberty's chances with the Sun Belt.

On the surface I agree. Liberty is pulling out all the stops apparently. If it's a unanimous vote or an overwhelming majority voting NO, then Liberty is done. But if it's only short 1 or 2 votes, they still have life

As for Benson, he's right. The SBC does need to advance and do so now if they want to remain relevant

If only Liberty could help them advance. Unfortunately they can not. The University of Phoenix at Lynchburg does nothing to advance the conference.

Liberty and U Phoenix and the like should form their own conference.

Would they play sports online?

(04-03-2014 07:39 AM)redfan Wrote:  

(04-03-2014 07:32 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-02-2014 11:58 AM)asupatch Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 06:26 AM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 09:21 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I will say this : If Liberty is denied again this year it should be very clear that the presidents are simply not going to invite them unless the conference has to do so to survive.

So if June 1 comes and goes and Liberty is not invited I would think it is over for Liberty's chances with the Sun Belt.

On the surface I agree. Liberty is pulling out all the stops apparently. If it's a unanimous vote or an overwhelming majority voting NO, then Liberty is done. But if it's only short 1 or 2 votes, they still have life

As for Benson, he's right. The SBC does need to advance and do so now if they want to remain relevant

If only Liberty could help them advance. Unfortunately they can not. The University of Phoenix at Lynchburg does nothing to advance the conference.

Liberty and U Phoenix and the like should form their own conference.

Would they play sports online?

EA Sports NCAA 14?

You guys are on to something! ... Someone should set a "for profit" gaming community where participants can represent their University in head to head online gaming. Who wants to be the next millionaire.

(04-03-2014 07:56 AM)Liberty Fan Wrote:  You guys are on to something! ... Someone should set a "for profit" gaming community where participants can represent their University in head to head online gaming. Who wants to be the next millionaire.

I wonder if you would have to deal with a '1 and Done' issue

(04-03-2014 07:32 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-02-2014 11:58 AM)asupatch Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 06:26 AM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 09:21 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I will say this : If Liberty is denied again this year it should be very clear that the presidents are simply not going to invite them unless the conference has to do so to survive.

So if June 1 comes and goes and Liberty is not invited I would think it is over for Liberty's chances with the Sun Belt.

On the surface I agree. Liberty is pulling out all the stops apparently. If it's a unanimous vote or an overwhelming majority voting NO, then Liberty is done. But if it's only short 1 or 2 votes, they still have life

As for Benson, he's right. The SBC does need to advance and do so now if they want to remain relevant

If only Liberty could help them advance. Unfortunately they can not. The University of Phoenix at Lynchburg does nothing to advance the conference.

Liberty and U Phoenix and the like should form their own conference.

For profit Grand Canyon is in the WAC.

(04-03-2014 07:32 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-02-2014 11:58 AM)asupatch Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 06:26 AM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 09:21 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I will say this : If Liberty is denied again this year it should be very clear that the presidents are simply not going to invite them unless the conference has to do so to survive.

So if June 1 comes and goes and Liberty is not invited I would think it is over for Liberty's chances with the Sun Belt.

On the surface I agree. Liberty is pulling out all the stops apparently. If it's a unanimous vote or an overwhelming majority voting NO, then Liberty is done. But if it's only short 1 or 2 votes, they still have life

As for Benson, he's right. The SBC does need to advance and do so now if they want to remain relevant

If only Liberty could help them advance. Unfortunately they can not. The University of Phoenix at Lynchburg does nothing to advance the conference.

Liberty and U Phoenix and the like should form their own conference.

An expert was on CNBC this morning talking about how the federal government was looking into federal loan fraud charges against for-profit online educators. The crack down is coming, and Liberty will be scrutinized within that group.

(04-03-2014 08:57 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-03-2014 07:32 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-02-2014 11:58 AM)asupatch Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 06:26 AM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 09:21 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I will say this : If Liberty is denied again this year it should be very clear that the presidents are simply not going to invite them unless the conference has to do so to survive.

So if June 1 comes and goes and Liberty is not invited I would think it is over for Liberty's chances with the Sun Belt.

On the surface I agree. Liberty is pulling out all the stops apparently. If it's a unanimous vote or an overwhelming majority voting NO, then Liberty is done. But if it's only short 1 or 2 votes, they still have life

As for Benson, he's right. The SBC does need to advance and do so now if they want to remain relevant

If only Liberty could help them advance. Unfortunately they can not. The University of Phoenix at Lynchburg does nothing to advance the conference.

Liberty and U Phoenix and the like should form their own conference.

For profit Grand Canyon is in the WAC.

Yea, they shouldn't even be in the NCAA.

(04-03-2014 10:10 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(04-03-2014 07:32 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-02-2014 11:58 AM)asupatch Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 06:26 AM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 09:21 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I will say this : If Liberty is denied again this year it should be very clear that the presidents are simply not going to invite them unless the conference has to do so to survive.

So if June 1 comes and goes and Liberty is not invited I would think it is over for Liberty's chances with the Sun Belt.

On the surface I agree. Liberty is pulling out all the stops apparently. If it's a unanimous vote or an overwhelming majority voting NO, then Liberty is done. But if it's only short 1 or 2 votes, they still have life

As for Benson, he's right. The SBC does need to advance and do so now if they want to remain relevant

If only Liberty could help them advance. Unfortunately they can not. The University of Phoenix at Lynchburg does nothing to advance the conference.

Liberty and U Phoenix and the like should form their own conference.

An expert was on CNBC this morning talking about how the federal government was looking into federal loan fraud charges against for-profit online educators. The crack down is coming, and Liberty will be scrutinized within that group.

This is coming and is overdue. I have no idea if LU has a liability there (they can't possibly be as repulsive as some of the other players in that field)

My guess is that those with the major liabilities would be those that produce non-degree education. There might be some blowback on some of LU's seminarial degrees or certificates. But I'd be surprised if they got hit as bad as Virginia College for example.

(04-03-2014 10:16 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-03-2014 10:10 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(04-03-2014 07:32 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-02-2014 11:58 AM)asupatch Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 06:26 AM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  On the surface I agree. Liberty is pulling out all the stops apparently. If it's a unanimous vote or an overwhelming majority voting NO, then Liberty is done. But if it's only short 1 or 2 votes, they still have life

As for Benson, he's right. The SBC does need to advance and do so now if they want to remain relevant

If only Liberty could help them advance. Unfortunately they can not. The University of Phoenix at Lynchburg does nothing to advance the conference.

Liberty and U Phoenix and the like should form their own conference.

An expert was on CNBC this morning talking about how the federal government was looking into federal loan fraud charges against for-profit online educators. The crack down is coming, and Liberty will be scrutinized within that group.

This is coming and is overdue. I have no idea if LU has a liability there (they can't possibly be as repulsive as some of the other players in that field)

My guess is that those with the major liabilities would be those that produce non-degree education. There might be some blowback on some of LU's seminarial degrees or certificates. But I'd be surprised if they got hit as bad as Virginia College for example.

Don't know either....but, I can guarantee that a school with 90,000 online students who receives hundreds of millions in federal loan funds will be examined.