(03-28-2014 07:59 PM)Maryland Monarch Wrote:  

(03-28-2014 07:00 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  Looking at it a different way. If odu doesn't have the balls to play with the best, don't trash southern miss about standing up for our self with the ncaa snub.
We are 1-23 over the last 2 years but we are going over there this year.

Or you could look at it even differently. Apparently ODU doesn't need an incremental million dollars to fund our program. That speaks to the strength of our athletic balance sheet. A well funded, committed athletic program is a good thing for CUSA.

I was just thinking about your other programs. I mean you women s program can charter several MORE trips with your coaches crew of lesbian friends.
NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

In order to make a name, you have to play big time opponents. Pure and simple. Beating one will do more for your reputation than anything else you can do. Period.

So they have to whore themselves out because a big program comes calling with money and asswhuppings.
And they are already playing a P5 opponent...at home.

I would have dropped NSU for Alabama.
A lot of current FBS programs have been torn a new a-hole by the Crimson Tide so no big deal.

Stopping Alabama on a possession would have been worth the trip to Tuscaloosa. Getting a first down on Alabama would have been worth it. Just seeing ODU on the same field with the legendary Crimson Tide would have been worth it even if we did get our asses handed to us.

(03-28-2014 11:59 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  I would have dropped NSU for Alabama.
A lot of current FBS programs have been torn a new a-hole by the Crimson Tide so no big deal.

Stopping Alabama on a possession would have been worth the trip to Tuscaloosa. Getting a first down on Alabama would have been worth it. Just seeing ODU on the same field with the legendary Crimson Tide would have been worth it even if we did get our asses handed to us.

^this^

Many years ago I went to a Cajun/Bama game, in Tuscaloosa I believe it was, and Brian Mitchell was our quarterback. He was a top-quality athlete out of a small town near Baton Rouge, and played for many years in the NFL with the Redskins and later Philly.

Anyway, if I recall correctly, we lead at halftime, even led at the end of the third quarter. We played 'em heads-up and battled like we belonged on the field with them. That day, we did.

Bama eventually took the lead and when they did, a roar arose from the stadium that I'd not heard the entire game. It was nothing short of amazing how the Cajuns had silenced about 90,000 fans to that point.

After the game many Bama fans told us that by the end of the 3rd quarter, they thought we were going to win the game. Honestly, I thought we were too.

In the end, we fell short. They were a far superior team but it was worth the airline flight, the cost of the tickets, etc. I'll never forget the experience of seeing my Cajuns lined up head to head with Bama and giving them all they wanted on a beautiful fall afternoon.

You don't want to be on the same field. No telling what kind if disease you might catch.

If i were ODU AD i would've made the same decision. Anybody who knows a teeny tiny bit about our defense know that he made a sane decision. Yes going up against big programs makes name when you have atleast a semi-competent offenses and defenses on the field but given our lack of depth on both sides and after seeing what an average p5 team can do to us last year that would be like ramming into a hill with a football helmet. There's definitely a difference between trying to move a boulder and a hill one's doable with effort and other is pure stupidity. We as a school are no short of funds to drag ourself into a man slaughter like this which is what usually happens to programs in their infancy which are very less prepared. Okay people talking about making a name going against big heads what kind of name did GaSt made when they played bama last year.

I like this. If we all do this consistently, I bet we can get Bama to put up $2,000,000 or $3,000,000. They've got the money. Let's go get it.

(03-29-2014 10:23 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  Okay people talking about making a name going against big heads what kind of name did GaSt made when they played bama last year.

Certainly not the name Georgia Southern did by beating Florida in Gainesville last year. See what I mean? They weren't even FBS yet.

If you won't take the field against 'em, you'll never beat 'em, ever.

(03-29-2014 11:09 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 10:23 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  Okay people talking about making a name going against big heads what kind of name did GaSt made when they played bama last year.

Certainly not the name Georgia Southern did by beating Florida in Gainesville last year. See what I mean? They weren't even FBS yet.

If you won't take the field against 'em, you'll never beat 'em, ever.

Exactly that is why I said this is not that ODU team that our AD want out fighting the tide but he never said we never will eventually we will at least couple of years down the road or may be more.

(03-29-2014 11:09 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 10:23 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  Okay people talking about making a name going against big heads what kind of name did GaSt made when they played bama last year.

Certainly not the name Georgia Southern did by beating Florida in Gainesville last year. See what I mean? They weren't even FBS yet.

If you won't take the field against 'em, you'll never beat 'em, ever.

You're talking about the same Florida team that had two of its own players blocking each other while a GA ST player ran for a touchdown. Yeah they made a name for themselves, but the ineptness of Florida also gets brought up to.

But tha's why you play the game. So if ODU beats NC ST, an ACC team, you're saying they won't get any recognition for that or is it just SEC teams?

(03-29-2014 12:25 PM)rook360 Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 11:09 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 10:23 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  Okay people talking about making a name going against big heads what kind of name did GaSt made when they played bama last year.

Certainly not the name Georgia Southern did by beating Florida in Gainesville last year. See what I mean? They weren't even FBS yet.

If you won't take the field against 'em, you'll never beat 'em, ever.

You're talking about the same Florida team that had two of its own players blocking each other while a GA ST player ran for a touchdown. Yeah they made a name for themselves, but the ineptness of Florida also gets brought up to.

But tha's why you play the game. So if ODU beats NC ST, an ACC team, you're saying they won't get any recognition for that or is it just SEC teams?

I never said, nor even hinted at any such thing, did I.

But back to the Florida versus Georgia Southern game. It's easy in hindsight to say Florida was inept on the field that day, but I'm sure when that game was scheduled, FCS-based Georgia Southern figured they'd face the average Florida team that rolls over most G-5 opponents with ease and eats FCS teams as appetizers.

Each university's AD is free to do what he feels is best for his program and ODU's has obviously done that. I just cringe a little when I see both administration and fans so willingly admitting they don't even want to try to compete at the highest level and accepting that it's better to set the bar much much lower.

(03-29-2014 12:47 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 12:25 PM)rook360 Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 11:09 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 10:23 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  Okay people talking about making a name going against big heads what kind of name did GaSt made when they played bama last year.

Certainly not the name Georgia Southern did by beating Florida in Gainesville last year. See what I mean? They weren't even FBS yet.

If you won't take the field against 'em, you'll never beat 'em, ever.

You're talking about the same Florida team that had two of its own players blocking each other while a GA ST player ran for a touchdown. Yeah they made a name for themselves, but the ineptness of Florida also gets brought up to.

But tha's why you play the game. So if ODU beats NC ST, an ACC team, you're saying they won't get any recognition for that or is it just SEC teams?

I never said, nor even hinted at any such thing, did I.

But back to the Florida versus Georgia Southern game. It's easy in hindsight to say Florida was inept on the field that day, but I'm sure when that game was scheduled, FCS-based Georgia Southern figured they'd face the average Florida team that rolls over most G-5 opponents with ease and eats FCS teams as appetizers.

Each university's AD is free to do what he feels is best for his program and ODU's has obviously done that. I just cringe a little when I see both administration and fans so willingly admitting they don't even want to try to compete at the highest level and accepting that it's better to set the bar much much lower.

No our fans agree and understand we have atleast an FBS average offense that we aren't afraid going against any of the nations defenses while we dont feel the same about our defense. It will take atleast a couple of FBS recruiting seasons for the defense to catchp with offense you can blame it on Bobby putting emphasis on offense from day 1 or a lot of defense changes and not so good defense recuriting whatever at the end of the day our defense sucks and we all know it and live with it but hoping for thatb to change real soon.

(03-29-2014 12:47 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 12:25 PM)rook360 Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 11:09 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 10:23 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  Okay people talking about making a name going against big heads what kind of name did GaSt made when they played bama last year.

Certainly not the name Georgia Southern did by beating Florida in Gainesville last year. See what I mean? They weren't even FBS yet.

If you won't take the field against 'em, you'll never beat 'em, ever.

You're talking about the same Florida team that had two of its own players blocking each other while a GA ST player ran for a touchdown. Yeah they made a name for themselves, but the ineptness of Florida also gets brought up to.

But tha's why you play the game. So if ODU beats NC ST, an ACC team, you're saying they won't get any recognition for that or is it just SEC teams?

I never said, nor even hinted at any such thing, did I.

But back to the Florida versus Georgia Southern game. It's easy in hindsight to say Florida was inept on the field that day, but I'm sure when that game was scheduled, FCS-based Georgia Southern figured they'd face the average Florida team that rolls over most G-5 opponents with ease and eats FCS teams as appetizers.

Each university's AD is free to do what he feels is best for his program and ODU's has obviously done that. I just cringe a little when I see both administration and fans so willingly admitting they don't even want to try to compete at the highest level and accepting that it's better to set the bar much much lower.

ODU is interested in competing, but there's a difference between "competing" and "sending an overmatched team onto the field for a quick paycheck." It'd be nice if ODU and Alabama could play some day, but that day isn't going to be in 2015, when the Monarchs are just starting their second full season of FBS competition and they'll have a new starting QB.

As for the Florida-Ga. Southern coverage, most of it was along the lines of "holy crap, Florida's so bad they lost at home to a middling Georgia Southern team!" They're trying to build a program, not buy a lottery ticket for the hope of getting 15 minutes of fame for beating someone they weren't supposed to beat.

I'm fine with playing Alabama but I'm glad we didn't bend over backwards to make it happen. Strategically I think we've got the right idea, if we can get 1M to play Vandy and a legit chance at winning or a home & home with NC State or VT than it's better than the 1.3 from Alabama.

But yeah, it was the right move. ESPN and Alabama says "jump" and we say "go **** yourselves, you can't buy us"

Gop Monarchs!

(03-28-2014 05:59 PM)monarchman Wrote:  The AD made the correct decision. ODU has no business playing Alabama at this point in its development.

I agree. The money would be nice but ODU barely escaped Chapel Hill last season. Imagine what would happen going up against Alabama. Now, that's not a knock on ODU by any means as I wouldn't want Charlotte to play the like of Alabama any time soon either.

Good job ODU

Pride > $$$

It's a matter of semi pro players against amateurs. What goes on in this state with recruiting makes The SMU case look like choir boys.

It has nothing to do with Bama. It has everything to do with the schedule already in place.

(03-28-2014 11:59 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  I would have dropped NSU for Alabama.
A lot of current FBS programs have been torn a new a-hole by the Crimson Tide so no big deal.

Stopping Alabama on a possession would have been worth the trip to Tuscaloosa. Getting a first down on Alabama would have been worth it. Just seeing ODU on the same field with the legendary Crimson Tide would have been worth it even if we did get our asses handed to us.

Nobody cancels a home FCS game for a certain loss. The one FCS game is on everyones schedule because it counts towards Bowl Eligibility which ODU will be eligible for the first time in program history.

Not even under consideration.