I would be interested in how other Rebounders feel about Coach Pastner after this season has ended.

I think that Josh will be our coach. I wish that he would do better in-game interviews on TV, that he would coach better defense, and that he would learn to make better adjustments during games. When we got down in those blow-out losses, he had no answer to prevent the "avalanche". Two wins in the NCAA in 5 years is a very disappointing result.

I think that Josh will be here. Right now, I would not be upset if somebody hired him away. My wife does not like him any more and would like to see him go.

If you comment in this thread, please note if you are a Rebounder.

(03-26-2014 08:22 AM)covingtontiger Wrote:  I would be interested in how other Rebounders feel about Coach Pastner after this season has ended.

I think that Josh will be our coach. I wish that he would do better in-game interviews on TV, that he would coach better defense, and that he would learn to make better adjustments during games. When we got down in those blow-out losses, he had no answer to prevent the "avalanche". Two wins in the NCAA in 5 years is a very disappointing result.

I think that Josh will be here. Right now, I would not be upset if somebody hired him away. My wife does not like him any more and would like to see him go.

If you comment in this thread, please note if you are a Rebounder.

I am not a rebounder (although I would like to be) but like yourself, my wife also no longer likes pastner. He needs to either change his philosophy on coaching or hire an assistant that can provide some fundamental defensive coaching.

Nothing is going to happen unless he starts missing the NCAA tournament on a regular basis. You can't fire a guy that keeps making the tournament no matter how bad they get drilled once they get there. As far as him leaving for another job.... Where is he going to go that's better than here? Wake? Marquette? I don't see it. We sure don't need to give him another extension, but that's not my call. Hopefully Parrish is right and he eventually has a sweet 16/elite 8 run fall into his lap. That's about the only thing we can hope for at this point, because I sure don't want to hit rock bottom.


And yes I'm a rebounder

(03-26-2014 08:36 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  And yes I'm a rebounder

You need to be playing then, we really could use another one:)


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(03-26-2014 08:36 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Nothing is going to happen unless he starts missing the NCAA tournament on a regular basis. You can't fire a guy that keeps making the tournament no matter how bad they get drilled once they get there. As far as him leaving for another job.... Where is he going to go that's better than here? Wake? Marquette? I don't see it. We sure don't need to give him another extension, but that's not my call. Hopefully Parrish is right and he eventually has a sweet 16/elite 8 run fall into his lap. That's about the only thing we can hope for at this point, because I sure don't want to hit rock bottom.

100% agree....and I'm not a rebounder.
Bottom line, Izzo or someone of that ilk is not walking through the door. Neither is Shaka Smart.

We're going to have JP as our coach until he starts missing the NCAA tourney....if the young team next year doesn't get there, I think his seat will become hot.

No, it won't be hot next year either. He will have to miss the tournament for that seat to get even warm. One year, especially in a down recruiting year, is not gonna do it.

(03-26-2014 09:08 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 08:36 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Nothing is going to happen unless he starts missing the NCAA tournament on a regular basis. You can't fire a guy that keeps making the tournament no matter how bad they get drilled once they get there. As far as him leaving for another job.... Where is he going to go that's better than here? Wake? Marquette? I don't see it. We sure don't need to give him another extension, but that's not my call. Hopefully Parrish is right and he eventually has a sweet 16/elite 8 run fall into his lap. That's about the only thing we can hope for at this point, because I sure don't want to hit rock bottom.

100% agree....and I'm not a rebounder.
Bottom line, Izzo or someone of that ilk is not walking through the door. Neither is Shaka Smart.

We're going to have JP as our coach until he starts missing the NCAA tourney....if the young team next year doesn't get there, I think his seat will become hot.

Shaka Smart made a couple of nice runs with Anthony Grants players. He hasn't done much with the guys he recruited. Other than give up a 4 point play to tie the game which they went on to lose. Just imagine the wailing on this board if that happen to a JP team.

(03-26-2014 08:36 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Nothing is going to happen unless he starts missing the NCAA tournament on a regular basis. You can't fire a guy that keeps making the tournament no matter how bad they get drilled once they get there.

I don't think it has to be on a regular basis. If he misses it before he advances to the 2nd weekend then that might do it. Coach Finch got the hook a year after having his team ranked #2 in the country....two years after making the Sweet Sixteen. And he was an icon.

(03-26-2014 08:22 AM)covingtontiger Wrote:  I would be interested in how other Rebounders feel about Coach Pastner after this season has ended.

I think that Josh will be our coach. I wish that he would do better in-game interviews on TV, that he would coach better defense, and that he would learn to make better adjustments during games. When we got down in those blow-out losses, he had no answer to prevent the "avalanche". Two wins in the NCAA in 5 years is a very disappointing result.

I think that Josh will be here. Right now, I would not be upset if somebody hired him away. My wife does not like him any more and would like to see him go.

If you comment in this thread, please note if you are a Rebounder.

I'm a Rebounder. Memphis fans need to be more realistic to what type of program we have, not the one we believe we have. There are a handful of programs where Sweet 16s are annually expected and delivered - UNC, UK, KU, Duke. It is unreasonable to expect for a program like Memphis to reach the Sweet 16 every year. Our track record since 1970: 1970s - 1 Final Four, 1980s - 3 Sweet 16, 1 Final Four, 1990s - 1 Sweet 16, 1 Elite 8, 2000s - 2 Elite 8, 1 Final Four, 1 Sweet 16, 2010s - none. Even in our "glory" decades, we failed to make at least the Sweet 16 9, 6, 8, 6 years respectively. Expectation should be to make the tournament 5-6 times a decade, Sweet 16 1-2 times, and a deeper run every 10-15 years.

(03-26-2014 03:34 PM)bariggins98 Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 08:22 AM)covingtontiger Wrote:  I would be interested in how other Rebounders feel about Coach Pastner after this season has ended.

I think that Josh will be our coach. I wish that he would do better in-game interviews on TV, that he would coach better defense, and that he would learn to make better adjustments during games. When we got down in those blow-out losses, he had no answer to prevent the "avalanche". Two wins in the NCAA in 5 years is a very disappointing result.

I think that Josh will be here. Right now, I would not be upset if somebody hired him away. My wife does not like him any more and would like to see him go.

If you comment in this thread, please note if you are a Rebounder.

I'm a Rebounder. Memphis fans need to be more realistic to what type of program we have, not the one we believe we have. There are a handful of programs where Sweet 16s are annually expected and delivered - UNC, UK, KU, Duke. It is unreasonable to expect for a program like Memphis to reach the Sweet 16 every year. Our track record since 1970: 1970s - 1 Final Four, 1980s - 3 Sweet 16, 1 Final Four, 1990s - 1 Sweet 16, 1 Elite 8, 2000s - 2 Elite 8, 1 Final Four, 1 Sweet 16, 2010s - none. Even in our "glory" decades, we failed to make at least the Sweet 16 9, 6, 8, 6 years respectively. Expectation should be to make the tournament 5-6 times a decade, Sweet 16 1-2 times, and a deeper run every 10-15 years.

That's exactly the point I made in another thread.If you just became a fan in say Calipari's last five years then you probably think that we are more than what we really are. Good post sir

If we have a program that does not want to win why are we spending $20MM on a new practice facility? It's about time Memphis try to become more than just losers. If we hire the right people we can win, simple as that. There are a number of good coaches out there that would love to coach at Memphis. You do not have to get a coach at one of the big 5 schools. The guy at Dayton is good, Witchita State is good among many others. But if you want to be bad that's ok I guess.

(03-26-2014 03:50 PM)macphil30 Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 03:34 PM)bariggins98 Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 08:22 AM)covingtontiger Wrote:  I would be interested in how other Rebounders feel about Coach Pastner after this season has ended.

I think that Josh will be our coach. I wish that he would do better in-game interviews on TV, that he would coach better defense, and that he would learn to make better adjustments during games. When we got down in those blow-out losses, he had no answer to prevent the "avalanche". Two wins in the NCAA in 5 years is a very disappointing result.

I think that Josh will be here. Right now, I would not be upset if somebody hired him away. My wife does not like him any more and would like to see him go.

If you comment in this thread, please note if you are a Rebounder.

I'm a Rebounder. Memphis fans need to be more realistic to what type of program we have, not the one we believe we have. There are a handful of programs where Sweet 16s are annually expected and delivered - UNC, UK, KU, Duke. It is unreasonable to expect for a program like Memphis to reach the Sweet 16 every year. Our track record since 1970: 1970s - 1 Final Four, 1980s - 3 Sweet 16, 1 Final Four, 1990s - 1 Sweet 16, 1 Elite 8, 2000s - 2 Elite 8, 1 Final Four, 1 Sweet 16, 2010s - none. Even in our "glory" decades, we failed to make at least the Sweet 16 9, 6, 8, 6 years respectively. Expectation should be to make the tournament 5-6 times a decade, Sweet 16 1-2 times, and a deeper run every 10-15 years.

That's exactly the point I made in another thread.If you just became a fan in say Calipari's last five years then you probably think that we are more than what we really are. Good post sir

Why not expect it every year? If you don't expect at least a sweet 16 every year how are you to measure growth and consistency in the program?

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(03-26-2014 04:10 PM)tiger1953 Wrote:  If we have a program that does not want to win why are we spending $20MM on a new practice facility? It's about time Memphis try to become more than just losers. If we hire the right people we can win, simple as that. There are a number of good coaches out there that would love to coach at Memphis. You do not have to get a coach at one of the big 5 schools. The guy at Dayton is good, Witchita State is good among many others. But if you want to be bad that's ok I guess.

(03-26-2014 03:34 PM)bariggins98 Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 08:22 AM)covingtontiger Wrote:  I would be interested in how other Rebounders feel about Coach Pastner after this season has ended.

I think that Josh will be our coach. I wish that he would do better in-game interviews on TV, that he would coach better defense, and that he would learn to make better adjustments during games. When we got down in those blow-out losses, he had no answer to prevent the "avalanche". Two wins in the NCAA in 5 years is a very disappointing result.

I think that Josh will be here. Right now, I would not be upset if somebody hired him away. My wife does not like him any more and would like to see him go.

If you comment in this thread, please note if you are a Rebounder.

I'm a Rebounder. Memphis fans need to be more realistic to what type of program we have, not the one we believe we have. There are a handful of programs where Sweet 16s are annually expected and delivered - UNC, UK, KU, Duke. It is unreasonable to expect for a program like Memphis to reach the Sweet 16 every year. Our track record since 1970: 1970s - 1 Final Four, 1980s - 3 Sweet 16, 1 Final Four, 1990s - 1 Sweet 16, 1 Elite 8, 2000s - 2 Elite 8, 1 Final Four, 1 Sweet 16, 2010s - none. Even in our "glory" decades, we failed to make at least the Sweet 16 9, 6, 8, 6 years respectively. Expectation should be to make the tournament 5-6 times a decade, Sweet 16 1-2 times, and a deeper run every 10-15 years.

Are you serious? Make the tournament 5 or 6 times a decade? Sounds like you are just trying to get everyone to lower their standards to Pastners abilities. I think making the tournament 8 out of 10 years with a deep run 3 or 4 times every 10 years is very reasonable and very doable. If you don't agree, please explain why.

(03-26-2014 04:10 PM)tiger1953 Wrote:  If we have a program that does not want to win why are we spending $20MM on a new practice facility? It's about time Memphis try to become more than just losers. If we hire the right people we can win, simple as that. There are a number of good coaches out there that would love to coach at Memphis. You do not have to get a coach at one of the big 5 schools. The guy at Dayton is good, Witchita State is good among many others. But if you want to be bad that's ok I guess.

i don't get it either!
People around here have successfully changed the narrative from let's be Champions to let's just be OK

....WOW...

They have convinced themselves that being mediocre is just fine.

(03-26-2014 04:44 PM)howboutthemtigers Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 03:34 PM)bariggins98 Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 08:22 AM)covingtontiger Wrote:  I would be interested in how other Rebounders feel about Coach Pastner after this season has ended.

I think that Josh will be our coach. I wish that he would do better in-game interviews on TV, that he would coach better defense, and that he would learn to make better adjustments during games. When we got down in those blow-out losses, he had no answer to prevent the "avalanche". Two wins in the NCAA in 5 years is a very disappointing result.

I think that Josh will be here. Right now, I would not be upset if somebody hired him away. My wife does not like him any more and would like to see him go.

If you comment in this thread, please note if you are a Rebounder.

I'm a Rebounder. Memphis fans need to be more realistic to what type of program we have, not the one we believe we have. There are a handful of programs where Sweet 16s are annually expected and delivered - UNC, UK, KU, Duke. It is unreasonable to expect for a program like Memphis to reach the Sweet 16 every year. Our track record since 1970: 1970s - 1 Final Four, 1980s - 3 Sweet 16, 1 Final Four, 1990s - 1 Sweet 16, 1 Elite 8, 2000s - 2 Elite 8, 1 Final Four, 1 Sweet 16, 2010s - none. Even in our "glory" decades, we failed to make at least the Sweet 16 9, 6, 8, 6 years respectively. Expectation should be to make the tournament 5-6 times a decade, Sweet 16 1-2 times, and a deeper run every 10-15 years.

Are you serious? Make the tournament 5 or 6 times a decade? Sounds like you are just trying to get everyone to lower their standards to Pastners abilities. I think making the tournament 8 out of 10 years with a deep run 3 or 4 times every 10 years is very reasonable and very doable. If you don't agree, please explain why.

that is exactly what is going on... the talking heads on the radio are doing the same thing..it's pathetic

(03-26-2014 04:44 PM)howboutthemtigers Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 03:34 PM)bariggins98 Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 08:22 AM)covingtontiger Wrote:  I would be interested in how other Rebounders feel about Coach Pastner after this season has ended.

I think that Josh will be our coach. I wish that he would do better in-game interviews on TV, that he would coach better defense, and that he would learn to make better adjustments during games. When we got down in those blow-out losses, he had no answer to prevent the "avalanche". Two wins in the NCAA in 5 years is a very disappointing result.

I think that Josh will be here. Right now, I would not be upset if somebody hired him away. My wife does not like him any more and would like to see him go.

If you comment in this thread, please note if you are a Rebounder.

I'm a Rebounder. Memphis fans need to be more realistic to what type of program we have, not the one we believe we have. There are a handful of programs where Sweet 16s are annually expected and delivered - UNC, UK, KU, Duke. It is unreasonable to expect for a program like Memphis to reach the Sweet 16 every year. Our track record since 1970: 1970s - 1 Final Four, 1980s - 3 Sweet 16, 1 Final Four, 1990s - 1 Sweet 16, 1 Elite 8, 2000s - 2 Elite 8, 1 Final Four, 1 Sweet 16, 2010s - none. Even in our "glory" decades, we failed to make at least the Sweet 16 9, 6, 8, 6 years respectively. Expectation should be to make the tournament 5-6 times a decade, Sweet 16 1-2 times, and a deeper run every 10-15 years.

Are you serious? Make the tournament 5 or 6 times a decade? Sounds like you are just trying to get everyone to lower their standards to Pastners abilities. I think making the tournament 8 out of 10 years with a deep run 3 or 4 times every 10 years is very reasonable and very doable. If you don't agree, please explain why.

In theory I agree that its reasonable and doable under ideal circumstances, and yes its what I want. However, UofM history suggests that it's not reality. Bartow didn't achieve all of those standards, neither did Yates, Finch or Tic. I guess it could be argued that Kirk and Calipari were getting us to that point with Kirk going to the NCAA 5/7 years/Calipari 6/9 years. It should also be pointed out that both left us with NCAA sanctions and vacated wins. Bartow made exactly 1 NCAA tournament which was a pretty damn special one.

The right guy who stays here long term could possibly do it, and by right guy I mean our version of a long term coach K/Izzo type. technically that could be said of probably 100+ teams though.

We have had 2 windows that we have had stellar 4-year runs, Kirk (S16, S16, S16, FF) and Cal (E8, E8, NC game, S16). That's it. Exclude 1981-1985 and 2005-09 (a grand total of 8 years of our entire history) and what have we done that would give any indication that we are capable of the consistency of appearances and deep runs you suggest should be what we expect?

(03-26-2014 03:34 PM)bariggins98 Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 08:22 AM)covingtontiger Wrote:  I would be interested in how other Rebounders feel about Coach Pastner after this season has ended.

I think that Josh will be our coach. I wish that he would do better in-game interviews on TV, that he would coach better defense, and that he would learn to make better adjustments during games. When we got down in those blow-out losses, he had no answer to prevent the "avalanche". Two wins in the NCAA in 5 years is a very disappointing result.

I think that Josh will be here. Right now, I would not be upset if somebody hired him away. My wife does not like him any more and would like to see him go.

If you comment in this thread, please note if you are a Rebounder.

I'm a Rebounder. Memphis fans need to be more realistic to what type of program we have, not the one we believe we have. There are a handful of programs where Sweet 16s are annually expected and delivered - UNC, UK, KU, Duke. It is unreasonable to expect for a program like Memphis to reach the Sweet 16 every year. Our track record since 1970: 1970s - 1 Final Four, 1980s - 3 Sweet 16, 1 Final Four, 1990s - 1 Sweet 16, 1 Elite 8, 2000s - 2 Elite 8, 1 Final Four, 1 Sweet 16, 2010s - none. Even in our "glory" decades, we failed to make at least the Sweet 16 9, 6, 8, 6 years respectively. Expectation should be to make the tournament 5-6 times a decade, Sweet 16 1-2 times, and a deeper run every 10-15 years.

You can't be serious. With the money that's being spent on this program, coaches and assts. salaries, investment in a new practice facility and a program that plays in front of 16-18,000 every night, this is all you say we should expect out of this program? WOW!!!! I mean just WOW!!!! Sorry, as a fan, a TSF donor and season ticket holder since the 70's, you're damn straight I expect more. History be damned, this is a different era with a higher priced product we're talking about. I mean this isn't the MSC Tigers of yester year. Me, as a fan, have lost any and all faith in Josh as our head coach. IMO, he's a fine, upstanding, wonderful human being, I just don't think he's a division 1, high level program (such as Memphis) head coach and I, like the OP wouldn't mine if he took a job somewhere else....GO TIGERS!!!!

I am not a rebounder, I would most definitely be if at all possible. I am in no way wealthy, however I do spend a good percentage of my income supporting tiger athletics.

I understand that we have never won with the likes of Kentucky or Kansas or other bluebloods, but I have watched over my lifetime programs of far less significance make the right hire, and vault in front of the tigers in national perception. Some of those programs still have far less resources, and interests by their fanbase than do we.

I have seen us make the right hire, and go on unprecedented runs. For those who are satisfied with what we have been in our past, and not what we can become in our future truly have missed the point.

We have watched teams like Central Florida rise from the depths of college football obscurity, and win big on a national stage. We have spent a lifetime watching formal conference rivals, surpass us in almost every category. Why should we settle for just being what we have been in the past?, when we have such a promising future?