CHARLIE STRONG

Another stated opinion based on the Win/Lose model that seems to pervade sports and business thinking. I disagree with this article.
I consider it a poorly written article.

Rather, I believe in Win/Win philosophy. Or, to state the same proposition in a different way, a rising tide raises all ships. The B12 needs the Longhorns to reassert themselves.

For example, Oklahoma's victory over Alabama in the Sugar Bowl was a tremendous feather in the hat for the B12. Texas Tech's victory over #14 Arizona State in the Raider's Bowl game is a feather in the hat for B12. Ditto for KSU over Michigan. The B12 needs these kinds of victories after a dismal 2013 season and the Longhorns are more than capable of delivering that.

New Coach Charlie Strong states he is going to "close the border to out of state schools recruiting in Texas." Really? The Longhorns for years and years have had the top choice of Texas recruits (now joined by TAMU) and there are still many top notch Texas H.S. kids available.

What has hurt OU, OSU, and other B12 schools recruiting in Texas has been the emergence of TAMU. Adding TCU means there is one more BCS school to divide the number of Texas H.S. prospects. But, that is off set by the increasing population of Texas.

Within 48 hours of OU beating Alabama, the Sooners verballed the #1 running back out of California, a 4 star DT from Tulsa, and a highly sought OL from Louisiana with a dozen BCS offers. All three kids not from Texas. Oklahoma State has verballed a 4-Star QB out of South Carolina who wanted to play in the pass happy B12. This is the second point missed by this sports writer.

If you think this article is incorrect, or poorly written, why do you reference the article? Then you follow up by saying that a successful Texas "floats all boats" for the conference, from a public perspective. Not sure what the point of this thread was. Are you just referring to Strong's comments about sealing off Texas? If so, get used to it. Strong makes a lot of comments, especially after a loss. Reference the UCF loss, in Louisville. I actually think Louisville upgraded with Petrino. Time will tell.

(01-23-2014 10:28 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  If you think this article is incorrect, or poorly written, why do you reference the article? Then you follow up by saying that a successful Texas "floats all boats" for the conference, from a public perspective. Not sure what the point of this thread was. Are you just referring to Strong's comments about sealing off Texas? If so, get used to it. Strong makes a lot of comments, especially after a loss. Reference the UCF loss, in Louisville. I actually think Louisville upgraded with Petrino. Time will tell.

We think so too! Thanks

(01-23-2014 10:28 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  If you think this article is incorrect, or poorly written, why do you reference the article? Then you follow up by saying that a successful Texas "floats all boats" for the conference, from a public perspective. Not sure what the point of this thread was. Are you just referring to Strong's comments about sealing off Texas? If so, get used to it. Strong makes a lot of comments, especially after a loss. Reference the UCF loss, in Louisville. I actually think Louisville upgraded with Petrino. Time will tell.

Many AAC fans on this board are hopeful that the B12 implodes and that selected AAC eastern schools for an eastern division with the remaining B12 schools, now in a western division. That is the reason for all the B12 bashing that goes on this board. That may well happen. My attitude is anything can happen, as attested to all the unforeseen conference gyrations of the recent past two years.

But the purpose of this article is basically....that the B12 is getting its house together after a dismal 2013 season. OU's hoped for hot shot freshman QB finally came thru in the Sugar Bowl. Texas did what it needed to do, replace its coach who seems to have gone stale. The B12 now has its two powerhouse programs going in the right direction. This is a great outcome for B12, a point entirely missed by this sports writer.

Formerly hapless Baylor got its act together and is now a player. Texas Tech and KSU came thru for the B12 in their bowl games.

That's five teams, OU, Texas, Baylor, TT, and KSU. Now if OSU, TCU, and WVA, plagued by QB issues in 2013, can get their act together, the B12 should be fine in 2014.

And, yes, Petrino is a great coach. If Petrino can keep his personal life in order, Louisville should be in great shape.

The Louisville UCF game was a prime example of CS not knowing how to coach his team UP with a big lead. If memory serves me right the Cards were ahead 24-7 or 28-7 at the half, and like all other games I think CS & company ( coaching staff ) decided on cruise control schemes at the half instead of preparing for the what if scenario. Well the what if scenario came quick with momentum being shifted on the fumble directly after a UCF score, and I think at that moment CCS didn't know exactly what to do to stop the bleeding. UCF I think played to their talent level and then some that night, and it showed. Were they the better team between them and Louisville maybe maybe not, but that one night they were and that's what counts at the the end of the game nothing less.

Now we as Card fans we witness all season long where the Cards would seem to take their foot off the gas or they had so much momentum to lose it for what ever reason, and this will definitely be the case in Austin with the Longhorns mark my words. Just when you think everything is rolling like you want it something happens, and no one seems to have the answer for it. Well just look at who is over seeing the program and you will get your answer for he just doesn't have the experience as a season veteran to make certain adjustments on the fly. Don't get me wrong give CS a month to prepare and bet the house on him for he will come through everytime, but on week to week matchups who knows what he is thinking. Good luck Austin maybe you guys will figure him out.

(01-23-2014 10:11 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  CHARLIE STRONG

Another stated opinion based on the Win/Lose model that seems to pervade sports and business thinking. I disagree with this article.
I consider it a poorly written article.

Rather, I believe in Win/Win philosophy. Or, to state the same proposition in a different way, a rising tide raises all ships. The B12 needs the Longhorns to reassert themselves.

For example, Oklahoma's victory over Alabama in the Sugar Bowl was a tremendous feather in the hat for the B12. Texas Tech's victory over #14 Arizona State in the Raider's Bowl game is a feather in the hat for B12. Ditto for KSU over Michigan. The B12 needs these kinds of victories after a dismal 2013 season and the Longhorns are more than capable of delivering that.

New Coach Charlie Strong states he is going to "close the border to out of state schools recruiting in Texas." Really? The Longhorns for years and years have had the top choice of Texas recruits (now joined by TAMU) and there are still many top notch Texas H.S. kids available.

What has hurt OU, OSU, and other B12 schools recruiting in Texas has been the emergence of TAMU. Adding TCU means there is one more BCS school to divide the number of Texas H.S. prospects. But, that is off set by the increasing population of Texas.

Within 48 hours of OU beating Alabama, the Sooners verballed the #1 running back out of California, a 4 star DT from Tulsa, and a highly sought OL from Louisiana with a dozen BCS offers. All three kids not from Texas. Oklahoma State has verballed a 4-Star QB out of South Carolina who wanted to play in the pass happy B12. This is the second point missed by this sports writer.

Huh? Who is Arizona State?

They better watch out for some Florida kids. I guess charLIE thinks the kids in Florida are better than the kids in Texas.

Quote:Mark Ennis ‏@Mengus22 11m
Hurtt will coach in the NFL one year and join his man Charlie in Austin.

Quote:Mark Ennis ‏@Mengus22 3m
So, in the end, Louisville turned out to be Clint Hurtt's halfway house through NCAA scandal.

Quote:What does Texas' hire of Charlie Strong mean for OU and OSU?

What it hopefully means is that all of the Okies have to get used to regular butt-whippings.

(01-23-2014 05:29 PM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  

Quote:What does Texas' hire of Charlie Strong mean for OU and OSU?

What it hopefully means is that all of the Okies have to get used to regular butt-whippings.

Man, you can keep on dreaming.

(01-23-2014 05:29 PM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  

Quote:What does Texas' hire of Charlie Strong mean for OU and OSU?

What it hopefully means is that all of the Okies have to get used to regular butt-whippings.

Aint gonna happen, Hoss.

Put me in the addition by subtraction boat. I think Charlie is a great coach with very few flaws. The flaws he does have however are big ones and will only be amplified in Texas.

As others have mentioned, he has no killer instinct. No offense to the AAC members, it turned out to be a tight conference race this year, but we should have buried teams this year with the returning talent we had. UCF was definitely the class of the conference but they shouldn't have been. Close games with Memphis isn't going to cut it in Austin.

He also showed very poor clock management while he was here. Often taking too long to get play calls in to Teddy, wasting timeouts in the 3rd Quarter, etc.

Finally, he's loyal to a fault when it comes to his staff. The sheer fact he never fired our Oline coach and brought Watson with him to Texas is proof positive. If Watson ever gets play calling duties over their new OC for whatever reason, be ready to riot longhorns fans!

Charlie is doing the right things. He's doing the same thing Schnellenberger did at Miami. He should fence off Texas and take the recruits he can develop and not just high rated ones. Don't agree that he's taking Hurtt back with him. Hurtt is a scum bag.

(01-23-2014 10:00 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Charlie is doing the right things. He's doing the same thing Schnellenberger did at Miami. He should fence off Texas and take the recruits he can develop and not just high rated ones. Don't agree that he's taking Hurtt back with him. Hurtt is a scum bag.

Disagree....if/when current Longhorn DL Coach Rumph leaves in a couple of years...Mark my words...Hurtt is getting the 1st call...

I do not care what CCS, Hurtt and Texas does!

(01-24-2014 07:10 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 10:00 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Charlie is doing the right things. He's doing the same thing Schnellenberger did at Miami. He should fence off Texas and take the recruits he can develop and not just high rated ones. Don't agree that he's taking Hurtt back with him. Hurtt is a scum bag.

Disagree....if/when current Longhorn DL Coach Rumph leaves in a couple of years...Mark my words...Hurtt is getting the 1st call...

You misunderstand, I don't disagree that he will do it. I disagree that he should do it.

(01-23-2014 07:55 PM)krux Wrote:  As others have mentioned, he has no killer instinct. No offense to the AAC members, it turned out to be a tight conference race this year, but we should have buried teams this year with the returning talent we had.

Louisville did not have great talent this year. They had an elite QB. The rest of their roster was really no more talented than the rest of the AAC.

Charlie played Teddy all the way to the End. He knew Teddy was the meal ticket out. Otherwise Gardner would have gotten more playing time. I can't blame Him though makes Both of Them Big Money Makers. Hurtt is now gone from Louisville. The Bears offered Him an NFL spot to learn coaching in that League. Happy for Him.

(01-24-2014 11:45 AM)CoogNellie Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 07:55 PM)krux Wrote:  As others have mentioned, he has no killer instinct. No offense to the AAC members, it turned out to be a tight conference race this year, but we should have buried teams this year with the returning talent we had.

Louisville did not have great talent this year. They had an elite QB. The rest of their roster was really no more talented than the rest of the AAC.

Lol....Louisville had one of the best defenses in the Nation...Marcus Smith lead the Nation in QB Sacks and was a 1st Team All American and has a 2nd/3rd Round NFL Draft Grade...Safety Calvin Pryor is seen as a 1st Round Draft pick in the 2014 NFL Draft-(FTR, every draft service has both Bridgewater and Pryor going in the 1st Round).

But I will let the Butthurt Houston say what he wants to makes himself feel better....we will take the 12-1 2013 Football Record and the 23-3 two year record in football and just smile...

(01-24-2014 11:45 AM)CoogNellie Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 07:55 PM)krux Wrote:  As others have mentioned, he has no killer instinct. No offense to the AAC members, it turned out to be a tight conference race this year, but we should have buried teams this year with the returning talent we had.

Louisville did not have great talent this year. They had an elite QB. The rest of their roster was really no more talented than the rest of the AAC.

(01-23-2014 10:00 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Charlie is doing the right things. He's doing the same thing Schnellenberger did at Miami. He should fence off Texas and take the recruits he can develop and not just high rated ones. Don't agree that he's taking Hurtt back with him. Hurtt is a scum bag.

Fence off Texas?? Ridiculous....How is he going to do that. Hundreds of top players come out of Texas and UT can only take 25 of them and usually they take the 25 they want and others take the rest.

There is a saying in Texas....UT does not recruit players, they pick them.