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How is it off topic when half of us graduated from a nearby school and UAB coaches are supposed to be recruiting kids around the state?

(01-22-2014 12:50 PM)Dracarys Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 12:46 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  Fultondale got screwed in 3A

Yes they did. It appears a lot of schools will be taking much longer bus rides next year.

In the last realignment, Clay-Chalkville's closest region game was Pell City.

Grissom, Huntsville, Lee-Huntsville, Gadsden, Oxford, friggin' Albertville.

They're getting a break now.

I don't follow HS football, but I was surprised to see my alma mater move up to 7A.

(01-22-2014 01:32 PM)BlazeNBham Wrote:  How is it off topic when half of us graduated from a nearby school and UAB coaches are supposed to be recruiting kids around the state?

It's SBR material.

(01-22-2014 02:09 PM)thebernreuter Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 01:32 PM)BlazeNBham Wrote:  How is it off topic when half of us graduated from a nearby school and UAB coaches are supposed to be recruiting kids around the state?

It's SBR material.

UAB currently lists 4 former Clay-Chalkville Cougars on the roster. How 'bout now?

There's a big one that just changed his commitment from USA to WKU that I hope Clark can sweet talk onto the Southside.

Last time, Decatur got moved to Birmingham Region while crosstown Austin stayed north.

(01-22-2014 02:20 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  Last time, Decatur got moved to Birmingham Region while crosstown Austin stayed north.

Same thing happened to Clay-Chalkville and Hewitt, and they're about 2 miles apart.

Dividing even further the high schools is an acknowledgement that we have too much variation in school enrollment around the state. If the state is serious about adding more of the "job ready" vocational HS programs around the state, we need more uniformity of school size, not less. The stumbling block to consolidation has always been that people want consolidation TO their school, not to someone else's.

(01-22-2014 01:15 PM)jthrashr Wrote:  Don't we have an off topic board?

Don't we have moderators?

(01-22-2014 01:32 PM)BlazeNBham Wrote:  How is it off topic when half of us graduated from a nearby school and UAB coaches are supposed to be recruiting kids around the state?

Because it's not directly about UAB sports. I'm not discounting the discussion, I'm just saying it's not relevant here because there's another board specifically for topics such as this. The same can be said for many other topics on the board.

(01-22-2014 02:43 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Dividing even further the high schools is an acknowledgement that we have too much variation in school enrollment around the state. If the state is serious about adding more of the "job ready" vocational HS programs around the state, we need more uniformity of school size, not less. The stumbling block to consolidation has always been that people want consolidation TO their school, not to someone else's.

The stumbling block is the fact that population is not uniform. You can't just create uniformity in school size. Or, maybe we can. Let's just bus about 800 kids from Prattville all the way across Autauga County every day to Billingsley. Or, here's a better idea- let's just tell 10% of the population of Mountain Brook that they have to move to Rockford so their kids can attend Central Coosa and even out the enrollment.

And even if you could even it out today, over time it would spread back out again.

The same would hold for almost anything including wealth.

(01-22-2014 03:02 PM)BatesUAB Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 02:43 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Dividing even further the high schools is an acknowledgement that we have too much variation in school enrollment around the state. If the state is serious about adding more of the "job ready" vocational HS programs around the state, we need more uniformity of school size, not less. The stumbling block to consolidation has always been that people want consolidation TO their school, not to someone else's.

The stumbling block is the fact that population is not uniform. You can't just create uniformity in school size. Or, maybe we can. Let's just bus about 800 kids from Prattville all the way across Autauga County every day to Billingsley. Or, here's a better idea- let's just tell 10% of the population of Mountain Brook that they have to move to Rockford so their kids can attend Central Coosa and even out the enrollment.

"Nuclear option" solutions are not being suggested. Alabama does need to find a way to mitigate the large and growing differences in enrollment around the state if it is ever going to be serious about some of its publicized high school "job ready" vocational programs. Good vocational programs are very expensive and you need a minimum enrollment in them to have them work efficiently.

Of course, the state can always just ignore the rural kids and let them "do without" like they have in the past.

(01-22-2014 02:50 PM)jthrashr Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 01:32 PM)BlazeNBham Wrote:  How is it off topic when half of us graduated from a nearby school and UAB coaches are supposed to be recruiting kids around the state?

Because it's not directly about UAB sports. I'm not discounting the discussion, I'm just saying it's not relevant here because there's another board specifically for topics such as this. The same can be said for many other topics on the board.

No one uses them.

(01-22-2014 12:46 PM)BlazerJoe Wrote:  Regions 1 and 3 are gonna be tough, but I'm curious as to why Daphne isn't in 7A...especially since Fairhope made the move up.

The new classes were divided strictly by 10th-12th grade enrollement. The top 32 schools by enrollement were assigned to class 7A (Austin and Shades Valley missed the cut by 6 and 11 students respectively). The remaining six classes were divided as equally as possible with 60 schools in 6A, 61 in 5A, 60 in 4A, 60 in 3A, 58 in 2A and 58 making up Class 1A.

Class 7A: Hoover 1,978 students to James Clemons 1,008 students
Class 6A: Austin 1,002 students(Shades Valley 997 students) to Carrol 579 students
Class 5A: Sidney Lanier 569 students to Lincoln 378 students
Class 4A: Headland 377 students to W.S. Neal 285 students
Class 3A: Madison Academy 284 students to Colbert Heights 210 students
Class 2A: Flomaton 209 students to Tharptown 144 students
Class 1A: Billingsley 144 students to John Essex 34 students

http://highschoolsports.al.com/news/arti...-class-7a/

(01-22-2014 03:19 PM)blazerjay Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 12:46 PM)BlazerJoe Wrote:  Regions 1 and 3 are gonna be tough, but I'm curious as to why Daphne isn't in 7A...especially since Fairhope made the move up.

The new classes were divided strictly by 10th-12th grade enrollement. The top 32 schools by enrollement were assigned to class 7A (Austin and Shades Valley missed the cut by 6 and 11 students respectively). The remaining six classes were divided as equally as possible with 60 schools in 6A, 61 in 5A, 60 in 4A, 60 in 3A, 58 in 2A and 58 making up Class 1A.
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Total number of schools is 389...................................................................RANGE w/in class
Class 7A: Hoover 1,978 students to James Clemons 1,008 students............................970 students
Class 6A: Austin 1,002 students(Shades Valley 997 students) to Carrol 579 students......423
Class 5A: Sidney Lanier 569 students to Lincoln 378 students.....................................191
Class 4A: Headland 377 students to W.S. Neal 285 students.......................................92
Class 3A: Madison Academy 284 students to Colbert Heights 210 students....................74
Class 2A: Flomaton 209 students to Tharptown 144 students.......................................65
Class 1A: Billingsley 144 students to John Essex 34 students.......................................110

http://highschoolsports.al.com/news/arti...-class-7a/

Class 7 has a range greater than twice the nearest class and the total of the next 5 classes combined. Surely this at least hints at the possibility of fewer and better groupings unless there is some other motivation behind it. Is the state trying to set up a division in high schools similar to that of the Big 5 in college from those who are less?

(01-22-2014 03:19 PM)blazerjay Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 12:46 PM)BlazerJoe Wrote:  Regions 1 and 3 are gonna be tough, but I'm curious as to why Daphne isn't in 7A...especially since Fairhope made the move up.

The new classes were divided strictly by 10th-12th grade enrollement. The top 32 schools by enrollement were assigned to class 7A (Austin and Shades Valley missed the cut by 6 and 11 students respectively). The remaining six classes were divided as equally as possible with 60 schools in 6A, 61 in 5A, 60 in 4A, 60 in 3A, 58 in 2A and 58 making up Class 1A.

Class 7A: Hoover 1,978 students to James Clemons 1,008 students
Class 6A: Austin 1,002 students(Shades Valley 997 students) to Carrol 579 students
Class 5A: Sidney Lanier 569 students to Lincoln 378 students
Class 4A: Headland 377 students to W.S. Neal 285 students
Class 3A: Madison Academy 284 students to Colbert Heights 210 students
Class 2A: Flomaton 209 students to Tharptown 144 students
Class 1A: Billingsley 144 students to John Essex 34 students

http://highschoolsports.al.com/news/arti...-class-7a/

Okay. That makes sense. Thanks!

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(01-22-2014 04:22 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Is the state trying to set up a division in high schools similar to that of the Big 5 in college from those who are less?

This picture is more in touch with reality than your post.

Great. Smiths Station gets stay in one of the toughest regions in the highest level. We're also one of the poorest schools in the region.

Absolutely floors me to see 3 St. Clair Co. Schools in 5A: Moody, St. Clair High, and Springville (Pell City has their own system). Was a time when Moody was 5A, St. Clair 3A, and everyone else 2A or lower. That Hwy 411 corridor must be booming.

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