(01-22-2014 12:16 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  Hmmm, that's weird, I keep looking at the slate of home games we (could be/have been) given and I keep seeing only one team on the list; the Cincinnati Bearcats. I must be looking at it differently than you guys.

Shouldn't be so d*mn worried about who you're rooting against as who you are rooting for.

I think the people who post on this forum are not the ones to worry about. These people are passionate UC fans or else they would not be here. The issue is the ones who are worried about the home slate know how the majority of the city/region will react to this schedule.

Just to be clear, everyone understands that everything you are reading in this thread is speculation pieced together by other speculation and rumor, right?

Nothing has been released by the conference office or the schools officially, so I wouldn't start making plans just yet.

(01-22-2014 08:31 AM)#41 Wrote:  

(01-21-2014 08:57 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(01-21-2014 06:46 PM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  A whole lot of complaining going on regarding at schedule that hasn't been released yet. Non-conference schedule is actually the most interesting it has been in years. Say what you want about Miami but its still a rivalry game that has had solid attendance numbers when the game isn't in Oxford. Cats owe Toledo, good MAC team that isn't an easy win. A road trip to Ohio State is possible and no doubt the Miami (Fl) game will be on national TV. Even without a marque home games the two MAC schools are better than playing random FCS U.

Lets assume the information provided surrounding Tulane and ECU is correct regarding the conference schedule. You know what UC is in the American so they are going to play the schools in the American. Best bet for respect is to win the league or pick off a view high profile non-conference opponents, even better if they do both.

I miss playing Louisville, WVU, and Pitt. Syracuse and Rutgers moved the needle about as much as UConn and USF did during our time in the Big East. Right now lets just look forward to playing and beating Ohio State, Miami (Fl), Michigan, Purdue, Boise State, and Nebraska over the next decade. Hopefully we can add Texas and Oklahoma or Florida State and Notre Dame to that list too, if you know what I am talking about.

Meh. IMO that home slate is not very special. Again.

Bearcatlawjd is physically incapable of a negative opinion about anything regarding the AAC.

They could add Eastern Michigan tomorrow and he'd be excited about getting to visit Ypsilanti next year.

You must of missed the part where I mention Oklahoma, Texas, Florida State, or Notre Dame. The American is what it is, a solid gang of five conference but not where UC wants to be. The basketball program can live there and be ok but football's situation isn't as rosey. We can sit around wishing for conference realignment which UC has very little control over or support UC at PBS and a new Nippert. (ok, you can do both too!) UC can still go to major bowl games and earn NCAA tournament bids in the American so the Cats goals should be the same regardless of conference affiliation. Blaming conference affiliation is going to get as old as blaming Nancy Zimpher and Bob Huggins for poor basketball attendance.

(01-22-2014 09:07 AM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 08:31 AM)#41 Wrote:  

(01-21-2014 08:57 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(01-21-2014 06:46 PM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  A whole lot of complaining going on regarding at schedule that hasn't been released yet. Non-conference schedule is actually the most interesting it has been in years. Say what you want about Miami but its still a rivalry game that has had solid attendance numbers when the game isn't in Oxford. Cats owe Toledo, good MAC team that isn't an easy win. A road trip to Ohio State is possible and no doubt the Miami (Fl) game will be on national TV. Even without a marque home games the two MAC schools are better than playing random FCS U.

Lets assume the information provided surrounding Tulane and ECU is correct regarding the conference schedule. You know what UC is in the American so they are going to play the schools in the American. Best bet for respect is to win the league or pick off a view high profile non-conference opponents, even better if they do both.

I miss playing Louisville, WVU, and Pitt. Syracuse and Rutgers moved the needle about as much as UConn and USF did during our time in the Big East. Right now lets just look forward to playing and beating Ohio State, Miami (Fl), Michigan, Purdue, Boise State, and Nebraska over the next decade. Hopefully we can add Texas and Oklahoma or Florida State and Notre Dame to that list too, if you know what I am talking about.

Meh. IMO that home slate is not very special. Again.

Bearcatlawjd is physically incapable of a negative opinion about anything regarding the AAC.

They could add Eastern Michigan tomorrow and he'd be excited about getting to visit Ypsilanti next year.

You must of missed the part where I mention Oklahoma, Texas, Florida State, or Notre Dame. The American is what it is, a solid gang of five conference but not where UC wants to be. The basketball program can live there and be ok but football's situation isn't as rosey. We can sit around wishing for conference realignment which UC has very little control over or support UC at PBS and a new Nippert. (ok, you can do both too!) UC can still go to major bowl games and earn NCAA tournament bids in the American so the Cats goals should be the same regardless of conference affiliation. Blaming conference affiliation is going to get as old as blaming Nancy Zimpher and Bob Huggins for poor basketball attendance.

Please name the major bowl that UC can get to while playing an AAC schedule. Can't and won't happen.

I guess he means the G5 access bowl if we win the conference and have scheduled tough OOC games and win those to rate higher than the champ of the other 4 dwarf conferences.

The rest of the bowl games are not as good as what we had in C-USA 10 years ago.

(01-22-2014 11:03 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I guess he means the G5 access bowl if we win the conference and have scheduled tough OOC games and win those to rate higher than the champ of the other 4 dwarf conferences.

The rest of the bowl games are not as good as what we had in C-USA 10 years ago.

I don't believe the access bowl is some pipe dream for this program.. No matter what conference UC is in they have to earn it on the field. Cats are not Notre Dame, they will never get handed a big time bowl for average play.

^^ One major bowl game opportunity per year and UC has to compete with 70 other schools for it. The rest of the bowls are either against the 9th place ACC team or MAC/CUSA schools

(01-22-2014 11:09 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  ^^ One major bowl game opportunity per year and UC has to compete with 70 other schools for it. The rest of the bowls are either against the 9th place ACC team or MAC/CUSA schools

None of the 70 schools are Alabama, Ohio State, Florida State or Oregon. Honestly UC is really competing within its own conference plus Boise State, Fresno State, and maybe one or two more schools.

Vandy only gets to compete with 13 other schools to win the SEC. The problem is that those schools include Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Texas A&M, and Mizzou.

(01-22-2014 08:36 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 12:16 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  Hmmm, that's weird, I keep looking at the slate of home games we (could be/have been) given and I keep seeing only one team on the list; the Cincinnati Bearcats. I must be looking at it differently than you guys.

Shouldn't be so d*mn worried about who you're rooting against as who you are rooting for.

I think the people who post on this forum are not the ones to worry about. These people are passionate UC fans or else they would not be here. The issue is the ones who are worried about the home slate know how the majority of the city/region will react to this schedule.

Could have fooled me.

We have a thread full of whining and complaining. Meanwhile those who you're seemingly most worried about recently filled Nippert up this year DESPITE what those very same 'passionate' naysayers....errrr....fans on here foretold.

We were led to believe our fans would be so distraught at the prospect of not seeing the Cuse, Pitt and the like that they'd fail to show.


Bottom line.....ppl....fans....like winners. All the fuss never made much sense to me. I was a student in the 90s and the Shoe was PACKED. We played bums. We won tho. Why this is forgotten around here mystifies me. I guess we're to believe it's different for football.



mc

(01-22-2014 11:03 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I guess he means the G5 access bowl if we win the conference and have scheduled tough OOC games and win those to rate higher than the champ of the other 4 dwarf conferences.

The rest of the bowl games are not as good as what we had in C-USA 10 years ago.

This last statement is just erroneous and blatantly NOT TRUE.

smh. We're making stuff up now just to belabor a point, eh?




mc

Dude...put the pom poms down. Liberty Bowl is like a high rent district compared to this new lineup. At least the champ got a nice slot. Now what is it...Military Bowl? A game at Marlins Field? How many of those C-USA bowls did you personally attend anyways? I logged 4. Nice little bowls for a start up program.

We can hold differing opinions as to the quality of the bowls a decade ago....but if you are trying to say this lineup is quality, I will point and laugh.

(01-22-2014 12:46 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 11:03 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I guess he means the G5 access bowl if we win the conference and have scheduled tough OOC games and win those to rate higher than the champ of the other 4 dwarf conferences.

The rest of the bowl games are not as good as what we had in C-USA 10 years ago.

This last statement is just erroneous and blatantly NOT TRUE.

smh. We're making stuff up now just to belabor a point, eh?




mc

10 years ago we had
Liberty vs. I think MWC teams.
GMAC vs. MAC
New Orleans vs. ?
Ft. Worth vs. MAC?
Hawaii vs. whatever conference Hawaii was in.

Yea any way you slice it and top to bottom the bowl lineup in the Big East was far superior to the AAC.

What are the AAC's bowl tie-in's? If they were posted already I apologize. I must have missed it.

(01-22-2014 01:25 PM)Marcus Wrote:  What are the AAC's bowl tie-in's? If they were posted already I apologize. I must have missed it.

2014 Season
BBVA Compass Bowl, Birmingham, Ala. – vs. SEC
Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl St. Petersburg, St. Petersburg, Fla. – vs. ACC
Miami Beach Bowl, Miami, Fla. – vs. Conference USA
Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumman, Annapolis, Md. – vs. ACC
Bell Helicopter Armed Forces Bowl, Fort Worth, Texas – vs. Army/Big 12
Bahamas Bowl, Nassau, Bahamas – vs. MAC

2015 Season
BBVA Compass Bowl, Birmingham, Ala. – vs. SEC
Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl St. Petersburg, St. Petersburg, Fla. – vs. Conference USA
Miami Beach Bowl, Miami, Fla. – vs. Conference USA
Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumman, Annapolis, Md. – vs. ACC
Sheraton Hawaii Bowl, Honolulu, Hawaii – vs. Mountain West
Boca Raton Bowl, Boca Raton, Fla. – vs. MAC

In addition to the conference's primary bowl affiliations, The American holds secondary partnerships with the AutoZone Liberty Bowl in Memphis, Tenn., the AdvoCare V100 Bowl in Shreveport, La., and the San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl in San Diego.

http://theamerican.org/news/2013/12/5/FB...34743.aspx

(01-22-2014 08:31 AM)#41 Wrote:  Bearcatlawjd is physically incapable of a negative opinion about anything regarding the AAC.

They could add Eastern Michigan tomorrow and he'd be excited about getting to visit Ypsilanti next year.

(01-22-2014 01:29 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 01:25 PM)Marcus Wrote:  What are the AAC's bowl tie-in's? If they were posted already I apologize. I must have missed it.

2014 Season
BBVA Compass Bowl, Birmingham, Ala. – vs. SEC
Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl St. Petersburg, St. Petersburg, Fla. – vs. ACC
Miami Beach Bowl, Miami, Fla. – vs. Conference USA
Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumman, Annapolis, Md. – vs. ACC
Bell Helicopter Armed Forces Bowl, Fort Worth, Texas – vs. Army/Big 12
Bahamas Bowl, Nassau, Bahamas – vs. MAC

2015 Season
BBVA Compass Bowl, Birmingham, Ala. – vs. SEC
Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl St. Petersburg, St. Petersburg, Fla. – vs. Conference USA
Miami Beach Bowl, Miami, Fla. – vs. Conference USA
Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumman, Annapolis, Md. – vs. ACC
Sheraton Hawaii Bowl, Honolulu, Hawaii – vs. Mountain West
Boca Raton Bowl, Boca Raton, Fla. – vs. MAC

In addition to the conference's primary bowl affiliations, The American holds secondary partnerships with the AutoZone Liberty Bowl in Memphis, Tenn., the AdvoCare V100 Bowl in Shreveport, La., and the San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl in San Diego.

http://theamerican.org/news/2013/12/5/FB...34743.aspx

Wow that is pretty brutral. Where does the conference champion go? Compass Bowl in Bham?

As I recall, the AAC has not prioritized a pecking order for the bowl slots. My guess is they mix and match based upon proximity and who they believe may bring the most fans. Our best hope in the short run would be to finish at or near the top of the G5 contenders and hope to fill a P5 bowl slot where the conference can't supply a team. By 2015, the Compass and Military are the only guaranteed pathways to playing a P5 opponent short of making the playoff. While I believe UC will field a superior G5 team it's a very tenous situation. There will always be the worry that some one year wonder from the MAC runs the table and grabs that slot.

Since the highest-ranked champion from the so-called "Group of Five" conferences (American Athletic Conference, Conference USA, MAC, Mountain West, and Sun Belt) is guaranteed a berth in either the Cotton, Fiesta or Chick-fil-A bowl if the group's top team is not in the playoff, that's our only hope.

Win the American AND be ranked higher than the C-USA, MAC, MWC and SBC champion; otherwise, we're screwed.

(01-22-2014 02:53 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  Since the highest-ranked champion from the so-called "Group of Five" conferences (American Athletic Conference, Conference USA, MAC, Mountain West, and Sun Belt) is guaranteed a berth in either the Cotton, Fiesta or Chick-fil-A bowl if the group's top team is not in the playoff, that's our only hope.

Win the American AND be ranked higher than the C-USA, MAC, MWC and SBC champion; otherwise, we're screwed.

It will not be based on rankings. The team selected to play from the G5 will be selected by the committee. I am sure the rankings will play a factor in the minds of hte committee, but they are supposed to look at other factors such as w/l record, strenght of schedule, conference championship, etc.

Part of me wonders if we will are shooting ourselves in the foot by scheduling so well OOC. While we travel to Ohio State and the U, maybe some other G5 schools plays cupcake city and goes undefeated. Will the committee give us the benefit of the doubt because we finished 11-1 against better competition?