(01-17-2014 07:53 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(01-17-2014 07:12 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  Austin came out for some reason because when we called timeout or the media timeout during that last spurt from uconn he was being attended to by the trainer on the bench.

There was nothing wrong with Austin. Nothing and that's not why he came out.

No there wasn't. I just watched it again and Austin was standing there, perfectly fine, getting ready to rebound on the free throw, the buzzer goes off, he turns around and realizes he's being subbed. He heads to the bench and Geron comes in.

There was no reason he came out (injury, or anything like that) other than Josh choosing to go small.

(01-17-2014 08:03 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(01-17-2014 07:53 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(01-17-2014 07:12 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  Austin came out for some reason because when we called timeout or the media timeout during that last spurt from uconn he was being attended to by the trainer on the bench.

There was nothing wrong with Austin. Nothing and that's not why he came out.

Then why was the trainer working with him? The POINT of the op is correct, though, why are so many on here bellyaching about the 4 guard lineup when it was hardly used last night?

I know that because he told my son that. The 4 guard lineup, in that time span, cost us 3 layups and the ball game.

(01-17-2014 08:08 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(01-17-2014 08:03 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(01-17-2014 07:53 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(01-17-2014 07:12 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  Austin came out for some reason because when we called timeout or the media timeout during that last spurt from uconn he was being attended to by the trainer on the bench.

There was nothing wrong with Austin. Nothing and that's not why he came out.

Then why was the trainer working with him? The POINT of the op is correct, though, why are so many on here bellyaching about the 4 guard lineup when it was hardly used last night?

I know that because he told my son that. The 4 guard lineup, in that time span, cost us 3 layups and the ball game.

Considering the fact that we were losing at that point there is NO evidence having our bigs in there would have changed the outcome....

You have got to be kidding.
We're down 1. Austin can't miss, the big guy has fouled out, and Pastner decides to pull Austin and put in 4 guards and 2 of them have 4 fouls. Suddenly, they score 6 straight and all in the paint. Now we're down 7.
Before taking Nichols out, it was anybody's game and we had momentum. That's about all the evidence you need.

(01-17-2014 08:18 PM)DicksHatBand Wrote:  You have got to be kidding.
We're down 1. Austin can't miss, the big guy has fouled out, and Pastner decides to pull Austin and put in 4 guards and 2 of them have 4 fouls. Suddenly, they score 6 straight and all in the paint. Now we're down 7.
Before taking Nichols out, it was anybody's game and we had momentum. That's about all the evidence you need.

How many times in the second half had we led? Not many.

(01-17-2014 08:03 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(01-17-2014 07:53 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(01-17-2014 07:12 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  Austin came out for some reason because when we called timeout or the media timeout during that last spurt from uconn he was being attended to by the trainer on the bench.

There was nothing wrong with Austin. Nothing and that's not why he came out.

Then why was the trainer working with him? The POINT of the op is correct, though, why are so many on here bellyaching about the 4 guard lineup when it was hardly used last night?

I remember UConn's trainer working on the knee of one of their bigs. You might be confusing that player with Nichols maybe?
No one seems to recall our trainer working on Nichols.

(01-17-2014 08:24 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(01-17-2014 08:03 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(01-17-2014 07:53 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(01-17-2014 07:12 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  Austin came out for some reason because when we called timeout or the media timeout during that last spurt from uconn he was being attended to by the trainer on the bench.

There was nothing wrong with Austin. Nothing and that's not why he came out.

Then why was the trainer working with him? The POINT of the op is correct, though, why are so many on here bellyaching about the 4 guard lineup when it was hardly used last night?

I remember UConn's trainer working on the knee of one of their bigs. You might be confusing that player with Nichols maybe?
No one seems to recall our trainer working on Nichols.

Not even Austin.

We have to make up something in order to deflect blame away from Coach.

"Uhhh, Austin was hurt or something!"

"Uhhhh, we were already down by 1 so we probably would have lost anyway!"

(01-17-2014 08:36 PM)Memp400Kng Wrote:  We have to make up something in order to deflect blame away from Coach.

"Uhhh, Austin was hurt or something!"

"Uhhhh, we were already down by 1 so we probably would have lost anyway!"

I'm not deflecting anything. I'm stating that there is no guarantee that the bigs would have won the game for Memphis as we'd been down the majority of the half.

I'll point out again that so many folks complaining were nowhere to be found after the Louisville game or Old Spice tourney....

(01-17-2014 08:40 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(01-17-2014 08:36 PM)Memp400Kng Wrote:  We have to make up something in order to deflect blame away from Coach.

"Uhhh, Austin was hurt or something!"

"Uhhhh, we were already down by 1 so we probably would have lost anyway!"

I'm not deflecting anything. I'm stating that there is no guarantee that the bigs would have won the game for Memphis as we'd been down the majority of the half.

I'll point out again that so many folks complaining were nowhere to be found after the Louisville game or Old Spice tourney....

No so. If Joe would have took over and won the game in the last minute the apparent coaching issues would still be there.

(01-17-2014 08:43 PM)Memp400Kng Wrote:  

(01-17-2014 08:40 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(01-17-2014 08:36 PM)Memp400Kng Wrote:  We have to make up something in order to deflect blame away from Coach.

"Uhhh, Austin was hurt or something!"

"Uhhhh, we were already down by 1 so we probably would have lost anyway!"

I'm not deflecting anything. I'm stating that there is no guarantee that the bigs would have won the game for Memphis as we'd been down the majority of the half.

I'll point out again that so many folks complaining were nowhere to be found after the Louisville game or Old Spice tourney....

No so. If Joe would have took over and won the game in the last minute the apparent coaching issues would still be there.

Yep, we should fire Josh and hire a coach who never makes mistakes and loses games. I still fully believe that people have disliked Josh from his second season because the class with Joe and Chris didn't turn out to be the second incarnation of the Laurenburg group and Josh still isn't John Calipari.

He has been second guessed more than any coach in Memphis hoops history. We had people calling for him to be fired because he didn't cuss at the players enough from Chrissakes.

Guys, there is no reasoning with Transitt. You will never change his mind. He just refuses to remove his head from Pastner's backside long enough to see what's going on in the real world.

In his world, Pasnter is perfect and anyone who questions him is a fan of another school disguising themselves as a Memphis fan or a Memphis fan who is involved in some kind of conspiracy to take down the almighty messiah.

I got news for you, Josh has proven nothing on the court. He hasn't proven to be a big game coach. His record against quality opponents is pretty bad and I think this is his best team, which means he may have a bit of pressure on him. If he doesn't he should. Just being a high quality guy is just not enough in big time sports, especially when you have a core of big biz guys paying his salary, which is enormous for a guy with a resume that lacks big wins.
If you want to be a good program, fine. He may be your guy. If you want a big time program, with big success on a national scale, competing for national championships he may not be your guy.
So far he's proven to be a high quality guy and great ambassador for the school. Great coach? Not even close.

So we're sticking with the idea that this game was lost in 1 minute of play???

This place is great. Never change, MTO.

MC, a lot of things cost us the game, but a bad coaching decision in CRUNCH TIME can cost you a game. This isn't groundbreaking stuff. It happens alot.

(01-17-2014 09:51 PM)Bluebeard Wrote:  MC, a lot of things cost us the game, but a bad coaching decision in CRUNCH TIME can cost you a game. This isn't groundbreaking stuff. It happens alot.

Sure, and I'm not saying that there weren't bad coaching decisions. But these mental gymnastics to try to fit this game into the pre-established "No 4 guard lineup" box is pretty hilarious.

It's like people already had their minds made up that if this game got away from us, it was going to be blamed on the 4 guard lineup. We ran it for less than 2 minutes.

(01-18-2014 09:40 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  We ran it for less than 2 minutes.

And it cost us the game.

(01-18-2014 10:00 AM)DicksHatBand Wrote:  

(01-18-2014 09:40 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  We ran it for less than 2 minutes.

And it cost us the game.

Keep telling yourself that, Dick.

(01-18-2014 10:01 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-18-2014 10:00 AM)DicksHatBand Wrote:  

(01-18-2014 09:40 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  We ran it for less than 2 minutes.

And it cost us the game.

Keep telling yourself that, Dick.

I wish it weren't the case MC.

(01-18-2014 10:06 AM)DicksHatBand Wrote:  

(01-18-2014 10:01 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-18-2014 10:00 AM)DicksHatBand Wrote:  

(01-18-2014 09:40 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  We ran it for less than 2 minutes.

And it cost us the game.

Keep telling yourself that, Dick.

I wish it weren't the case MC.

I get that. Everyone here has an opinion as to why we lost. I just feel like a lot of posters here are taking the easy way out, and already making up their minds on the reasons for the loss without really, critically thinking about it. If you don't fit that description, and you've thought out this position, I can't fault you.