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(01-11-2014 03:40 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  You know what, BandBoy, -

As I think more about it - you're right.

Fleck is recruiting a great class. He may be best recruiter we've ever had.

Within three years (all his recruits in program) we will be where NIU was in winning MAC West, MACC, in consideration for major bowl game.

Absolutely inspired hire by Dunn. Don't know why I didn't see it before.

Thanks for opening my eyes.

Well, he is 28 and sees all Major.

^ Exactly.

From 1-11 in '13 to 13-0 in '16 - if not before!

RTB, baby!

(01-11-2014 03:27 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 12:01 PM)BandBronco13 Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 11:45 AM)Dirty Ernie Wrote:  Except that it is not a class yet. It's just a list.

Ok, well then we'll come back to this discussion in 3-4 weeks when it's "official" and still the best class in the MAC. Can't wait to hear what the spin will be then. I think I already know...

Best class in the MAC according to who?

Rivals, Scouts, etc. who know nothing and care less about MAC?

According to all 4 major recruiting service websites (Rivals, Scout, 24/7, ESPN).

Obviously you are being sarcastic, but it's funny because you aren't that far off. Assuming Fleck has 2-3 more classes like the one he's building in 2014, WMU should be doing very well by 2016, 2017, etc.

It took NIU 5-6 consecutive years (some would argue longer) to build the program to what it is now. Again... funny an experienced football coach like yourself can't understand such a simple concept.

(01-11-2014 05:51 PM)BandBronco13 Wrote:  Obviously you are being sarcastic, but it's funny because you aren't that far off. Assuming Fleck has 2-3 more classes like the one he's building in 2014, WMU should be doing very well by 2016, 2017, etc.

It took NIU 5-6 consecutive years (some would argue longer) to build the program to what it is now. Again... funny an experienced football coach like yourself can't understand such a simple concept.

Just amazing what Darnel and Cubit were able to do in one year. Molde took two years. Now it has to take Fleck 4 - 5 years? Heck, look at what Franklin accomplished at Vandy in just 3 years.

I'm not buying it when it comes to PJ.

(01-11-2014 06:11 PM)Broncobelt Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 05:51 PM)BandBronco13 Wrote:  Obviously you are being sarcastic, but it's funny because you aren't that far off. Assuming Fleck has 2-3 more classes like the one he's building in 2014, WMU should be doing very well by 2016, 2017, etc.

It took NIU 5-6 consecutive years (some would argue longer) to build the program to what it is now. Again... funny an experienced football coach like yourself can't understand such a simple concept.

Just amazing what Darnel and Cubit were able to do in one year. Molde took two years. Now it has to take Fleck 4 - 5 years? Heck, look at what Franklin accomplished at Vandy in just 3 years.

I'm not buying it when it comes to PJ.

I can't believe a guy that "sees all" can't understand such a simple concept.

(01-11-2014 06:11 PM)Broncobelt Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 05:51 PM)BandBronco13 Wrote:  Obviously you are being sarcastic, but it's funny because you aren't that far off. Assuming Fleck has 2-3 more classes like the one he's building in 2014, WMU should be doing very well by 2016, 2017, etc.

It took NIU 5-6 consecutive years (some would argue longer) to build the program to what it is now. Again... funny an experienced football coach like yourself can't understand such a simple concept.

Just amazing what Darnel and Cubit were able to do in one year. Molde took two years. Now it has to take Fleck 4 - 5 years? Heck, look at what Franklin accomplished at Vandy in just 3 years.

I'm not buying it when it comes to PJ.

Yup BC and GD were great out of the gate, I really enjoyed a few of their teams, but they didn't maintain their success. No coach is flawless, GD's last year he was winless against d1a teams, I still think he was a very good coach.

Yeah, to be considered great, they'd have to have maintained success the way Fleck does.

(01-11-2014 06:45 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Yeah, to be considered great, they'd have to have maintained success the way Fleck does.

Maybe Fleck had his GD year early rather than late

I sure hope he is not on the same trajectory as the GD years!!

(01-11-2014 05:47 PM)BandBronco13 Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 03:27 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 12:01 PM)BandBronco13 Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 11:45 AM)Dirty Ernie Wrote:  Except that it is not a class yet. It's just a list.

Ok, well then we'll come back to this discussion in 3-4 weeks when it's "official" and still the best class in the MAC. Can't wait to hear what the spin will be then. I think I already know...

Best class in the MAC according to who?

Rivals, Scouts, etc. who know nothing and care less about MAC?

According to all 4 major recruiting service websites (Rivals, Scout, 24/7, ESPN).

And since you "See All, Know All" - we'll still be ranked the best MAC class in 3-4 weeks.

What could go wrong?

(01-11-2014 05:51 PM)BandBronco13 Wrote:  funny an experienced football coach like yourself can't understand such a simple concept.

That's why I come here - to be enlightened by you.

We are all very fortunate Persky graces us with his presence and incredible knowledge!! The board just isn't the same without him. Serious.

(01-11-2014 07:25 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  We are all very fortunate Persky graces us with his presence and incredible knowledge!! The board just isn't the same without him. Serious.

RTB, baby! PJ is getting it DONE!!

(01-11-2014 05:51 PM)BandBronco13 Wrote:  Obviously you are being sarcastic, but it's funny because you aren't that far off. Assuming Fleck has 2-3 more classes like the one he's building in 2014, WMU should be doing very well by 2016, 2017, etc.

Moi, sarcastic? Please.

Also I said "13-0 by 2016 if not before" - why are YOU fudging ("by 2016, 2017")? You're showing a little crack in confidence in Our Boy. Or is the crack in your crystal ball?

It's impossible to argue with stupid.

May we dance with your dates?

(01-11-2014 09:40 PM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote:  May we dance with your dates?

He isn't going to Oklahoma. He has basically spurned Florida, Arkansas, and Iowa already. He wants to stay close to home. If MSU or UM offer, he may bolt, but I don't see it for Oklahoma.

(01-11-2014 09:38 PM)BandBronco13 Wrote:  It's impossible to argue with stupid.

There's the sniveling BB13 we know!! Now now little bboy13, no reason for that kind of talk!

Take a timeout!

To get us back on topic. Okafur has been offered by Oklahoma, so his days are numbered now.