(01-08-2014 10:50 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Beef O Bradys is built on the concept of Family Sports Bar. Most of its restaurants are in Florida and along the Gulf Coast. Its headquarters are in Brandon, Florida, just adjacent to the city of Tampa. While corporate sponsors come and go, this corporate withdrawl by a home town business with USF and UCF in the neighborhood is different. ESPN will undoubtedly carry on with this bowl. But Beef O Brady is sending a message that this football bowl is not worth the advertising dollars it was costing them.

Do you know that? It is entirely possible the fee for sponsorship is changing when the ACC comes in (replacing CUSA).

I'm not saying you are wrong about BoB not wanting to continue for business purposes, but it may be that they can't afford to. And finally, it was a 3 year deal, so maybe the intent all along was to NOT renew, since they got their name out there now.

(01-08-2014 10:50 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Beef O Bradys is built on the concept of Family Sports Bar. Most of its restaurants are in Florida and along the Gulf Coast. Its headquarters are in Brandon, Florida, just adjacent to the city of Tampa. While corporate sponsors come and go, this corporate withdrawl by a home town business with USF and UCF in the neighborhood is different. ESPN will undoubtedly carry on with this bowl. But Beef O Brady is sending a message that this football bowl is not worth the advertising dollars it was costing them.

I guess Ticket City, Meinike Car Care, and Macco all sent the same message then?

(01-08-2014 10:50 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Beef O Bradys is built on the concept of Family Sports Bar. Most of its restaurants are in Florida and along the Gulf Coast. Its headquarters are in Brandon, Florida, just adjacent to the city of Tampa. While corporate sponsors come and go, this corporate withdrawl by a home town business with USF and UCF in the neighborhood is different. ESPN will undoubtedly carry on with this bowl. But Beef O Brady is sending a message that this football bowl is not worth the advertising dollars it was costing them.

Disagree. For a comparatively smaller sponsor like a regional restaurant, it makes total sense to pony up and sponsor for a few years, get as much media play as you will from a minor bowl, and then start spending your advertising $$ elsewhere.

There are a ton of potential sponsors in the T-Sp area. Sponsors change all the time, look how many bowls have changed in just the last few years. Another company will sponsor. Frankly, as oddball as the BoB name looked, a better sponsor and the ACC tie-in will HELP perception of this bowl. They just need to make the next sponsor an improvement.

(01-08-2014 10:50 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  But Beef O Brady is sending a message that this football bowl is not worth the advertising dollars it was costing them.

I actually ate at Beef o' Brady's on game day, and the waitress had no idea what I was talking about when I asked her about the game. No signs, only a couple of tv's on to that game, and no promotions. I told my wife that it looked like this didn't mean much to them. (And I live in the Brandon area...home of BoB's franchises.)

OKAY Y'ALL!!! Beef's is great! (local sponsorships) How many of y'all solicit local businesses for money? BOB are good folks! This is so silly that I feel bad relying on bulletin board material. Many, many bowls change sponsorship. Is that a reflection of the conference or of the bowl itself? Inquiring minds want to know.

(01-08-2014 10:54 AM)Big Frog II Wrote:  The venue for this bowl needs to change. Playing it in a small baseball stadium has not helped at all.

I don't agree. This is a lower tier bowl where 25-30,000 is a reasonable attendance target. Why play in a massive stadium in front of 40-50,000 empty seats, with the schools having to pickup thee expense of the bowl by paying for guaranteed minimum ticket purchases that they can't sell?

Also, I agree witth those who point out that ESPN will have no problem finding another sponsor. They have many sponsors to hit up by pitching crossover sales for ads across the bowl calendar, other events, and platforms.

Psst, this bowl upgraded opponents...3 years ACC vs. AAC post Christmas means more $ in bowl speak.

ETA: Y'all can hate on BOB for numerous reasons: menu whatever, BUT our local BOB contributes more $ than any national chain. And, the rice chicken bowl is better than anything you'll gat at BWW. AND, I LOVE me love BWW!

The St. Petersburg Bowl has great potential.

Things they need to do:

1) Call it the St. Pete Bowl Presented By ... (Sponsor) and get a national sponsor, that is recognizable around the US. Many people did not know what Beef O' Brady's was.

2) Put the camera on the opposite side of the field so it does not facing the party deck and instead faces the permanent seats (makes the stadium look bigger and like a bigger bowl game)

3) Do away with the party deck and add temporary seating to increase seats and make the stadium bigger and more like a big time bowl.

4) Comb over the field before the game.
Field
As you can see the field has lines going in different directions and looks bad and cheap on tv.

That is all!

(01-08-2014 10:50 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Beef O Bradys is built on the concept of Family Sports Bar. Most of its restaurants are in Florida and along the Gulf Coast. Its headquarters are in Brandon, Florida, just adjacent to the city of Tampa. While corporate sponsors come and go, this corporate withdrawl by a home town business with USF and UCF in the neighborhood is different. ESPN will undoubtedly carry on with this bowl. But Beef O Brady is sending a message that this football bowl is not worth the advertising dollars it was costing them.

TGI Friday's is closing a number of locations.
Red Lobster is closing locations and Darden is trying to spin the chain off.

Might be a matter of this being an industry segment that isn't performing well in the economy and needing to contain costs

(01-09-2014 02:21 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  TGI Friday's is closing a number of locations.
Red Lobster is closing locations and Darden is trying to spin the chain off.

Might be a matter of this being an industry segment that isn't performing well in the economy and needing to contain costs

LOVE TGIF food.

Their service at the Lafayette location was beyond atrocious. It closed.

For years, people were clamoring for a Red Lobster in Lafayette. They got it. It closed months later. Most people realized they cooked much better seafood at home.

(01-09-2014 02:21 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 10:50 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Beef O Bradys is built on the concept of Family Sports Bar. Most of its restaurants are in Florida and along the Gulf Coast. Its headquarters are in Brandon, Florida, just adjacent to the city of Tampa. While corporate sponsors come and go, this corporate withdrawl by a home town business with USF and UCF in the neighborhood is different. ESPN will undoubtedly carry on with this bowl. But Beef O Brady is sending a message that this football bowl is not worth the advertising dollars it was costing them.

TGI Friday's is closing a number of locations.
Red Lobster is closing locations and Darden is trying to spin the chain off.

Might be a matter of this being an industry segment that isn't performing well in the economy and needing to contain costs

IMO these type of chains have a limited shelf life. Eventually new restaurants come forward that are "more hip" and serve up a different menu or present it in a different fashion. The chains try to compete by changing things up a bit, but can never regain their mojo.

Regarding bowl games, I have always been opposed to bowl games being named (Sponsor) Bowl. Sponsor's come and go. You change the sponsor and the bowl loses out in its luster because people do not recall the history. As an example, the Rusell Athletic Bowl gets many people confused. People lose track that the bowl was at one point called Blockbuster Bowl, the CarQuest Bowl,the MicronPC Bowl or the Champs Sports Bowl. Simply being the ______ Bowl (brought to you by Russell Athletic would be the best situation.

Good maybe we can get a good sponsor like Tidy bowl, bobs bowling barn,

If BP wants to continue its partnership with the Gulf Coast for advertising, either St. Petersburg, Mobile (GoDaddy), New Orleans, or Texas would be the bowls to pickup.

I've been told that some of the powers that be around the NCAA have done as much as they can to try to squeeze Mobile to find a different title sponsor because of the "racy" ads GoDaddy is famous for.

Danica didn't make this year, but she was there last year.

(01-09-2014 04:53 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 02:21 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 10:50 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Beef O Bradys is built on the concept of Family Sports Bar. Most of its restaurants are in Florida and along the Gulf Coast. Its headquarters are in Brandon, Florida, just adjacent to the city of Tampa. While corporate sponsors come and go, this corporate withdrawl by a home town business with USF and UCF in the neighborhood is different. ESPN will undoubtedly carry on with this bowl. But Beef O Brady is sending a message that this football bowl is not worth the advertising dollars it was costing them.

TGI Friday's is closing a number of locations.
Red Lobster is closing locations and Darden is trying to spin the chain off.

Might be a matter of this being an industry segment that isn't performing well in the economy and needing to contain costs

IMO these type of chains have a limited shelf life. Eventually new restaurants come forward that are "more hip" and serve up a different menu or present it in a different fashion. The chains try to compete by changing things up a bit, but can never regain their mojo.

Regarding bowl games, I have always been opposed to bowl games being named (Sponsor) Bowl. Sponsor's come and go. You change the sponsor and the bowl loses out in its luster because people do not recall the history. As an example, the Rusell Athletic Bowl gets many people confused. People lose track that the bowl was at one point called Blockbuster Bowl, the CarQuest Bowl,the MicronPC Bowl or the Champs Sports Bowl. Simply being the ______ Bowl (brought to you by Russell Athletic would be the best situation.

I agree. I'd just add the sponsors name to the bowl. So it would be the Advocare Independence Bowl. The Royal Purple Las Vegas Bowl. That way, people never lose track of a bowls history. For instance, the new AAC bowl needs to be the Miami Beach Bowl and you just add a different sponsor to the name when one is obtained so you get the Frito Lay Miami Beach Bowl or the Taco Bell Miami Beach Bowl.

I don't understand why the Marlins Stadium bowl game is being called the Miami Beach Bowl. The stadium is located many miles away from Miami Beach. It would be like having the Heart of Dallas Bowl in Ft. Worth, or the St. Petersburg bowl in Tampa. Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine. Every since Lebron James said he was "taking his talents to South Beach," everybody has been very confused on South Florida geography. The Heat play in Downtown Miami, not South Beach.

When it comes to Beef's, they're fine financially. They have a monopolistic domination on the sports bar scene throughout the Tampa Nay area.

When it comes to the location of the bowl game, there is really no other option to host a Florida bowl game. Tallahassee and Gainesville are too small, with stadiums that would be too large for G5 opponents. The only other option would be FIU Stadium or Bright House Networks Stadium in Orlando (UCF). Orlando already has 2 games and South Florida is about to have 3. One more in each would just dilute attendance. The Tampa Bay area deserves 2 bowl games. Hopefully the new mayor of St. Pete will allow the Rays to discuss stadium proposals in Tampa so a new bowl game coups be held there.... And so the team doesn't leave for (insert random, similar sized Southern city here).

(01-11-2014 05:19 AM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  I don't understand why the Marlins Stadium bowl game is being called the Miami Beach Bowl. The stadium is located many miles away from Miami Beach. It would be like having the Heart of Dallas Bowl in Ft. Worth, or the St. Petersburg bowl in Tampa. Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine. Every since Lebron James said he was "taking his talents to South Beach," everybody has been very confused on South Florida geography. The Heat play in Downtown Miami, not South Beach.

When it comes to Beef's, they're fine financially. They have a monopolistic domination on the sports bar scene throughout the Tampa Nay area.

When it comes to the location of the bowl game, there is really no other option to host a Florida bowl game. Tallahassee and Gainesville are too small, with stadiums that would be too large for G5 opponents. The only other option would be FIU Stadium or Bright House Networks Stadium in Orlando (UCF). Orlando already has 2 games and South Florida is about to have 3. One more in each would just dilute attendance. The Tampa Bay area deserves 2 bowl games. Hopefully the new mayor of St. Pete will allow the Rays to discuss stadium proposals in Tampa so a new bowl game coups be held there.... And so the team doesn't leave for (insert random, similar sized Southern city here).

Miami Beach, primarily that area referred to as South Beach, is "sexy" and where the vast majority of entertainments are centered. The city of Miami is working to make their downtown desirable as a living area and a place to live. They have made much progress but have a long way to go. Miami Beach is, in essence, Miami's downtown. When the Super Bowl was held in the Dolphin's stadium a few years back, everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, was held in Miami Beach, parties, businesse's, groups, they all were in Miami Beach.

(01-07-2014 07:44 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-07-2014 07:20 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  It won't got under. At worst it won't have a sponsor.

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^

This year the Texas Bowl in Houston had no sponsor. There are probably others.

...Birmingham's 'BBVA Compass Bowl' is currently sponsorless... but the last two years have averaged 50,000 in attendance (just under 60,000 last year with Ol' Miss - Pitt, 40,000+ this year with Vandy-UH) ...and that was in the dumpster fire of a stadium (and there's NO exaggeration in that description, y'all... ) called Legion Field...

(01-11-2014 10:49 AM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  the dumpster fire of a stadium (and there's NO exaggeration in that description, y'all... ) called Legion Field...

It honestly amazes me that anyone (repeat: Anyone) is willing to use Lesion Field for a bowl game anymore.

I guess UAB is truly stuck with it, whether they like it or not. But no one else is.

I was talking with someone who attended a SWAC game there last season. She said it has gotten noticeably worse just in the last 3 or 4 years.