Great recruit, great freshman year and did a bigger disappearing act than our former wide receiver "bones"

(12-07-2013 09:28 AM)rosewater Wrote:  Great recruit, great freshman year and did a bigger disappearing act than our former wide receiver "bones"

injured and redshirting this year I believe

(12-07-2013 09:32 AM)50Cent Wrote:  

(12-07-2013 09:28 AM)rosewater Wrote:  Great recruit, great freshman year and did a bigger disappearing act than our former wide receiver "bones"

injured and redshirting this year I believe

If Chisum returns, we are stacked at receiver. Chisum, McKay, Shaq, Morrison, Cole,

Chris Moore

Holton

(12-07-2013 10:17 AM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  Holton

Thats the biggest one...having him and Mckay on the outside and Moore and Washington in the slot has got to be one of the most formidable WR corps in the country.

Gonna have to find someone to get them the ball.

What's going on with Holton? Injury?

(12-07-2013 10:35 AM)CDS86 Wrote:  What's going on with Holton? Injury?

Hmmm, thought he didn't qualify so he had to sit a year.

(12-07-2013 10:34 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Gonna have to find someone to get them the ball.

And therein lies the biggest question mark of the off season...because Kiel doesn't look like anything special so far, Coney can't hold onto the ball in game situations, and Munchie probably still won't be able to hit the broadside of a barn and now loses a majority of his mobility.

(12-07-2013 10:36 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(12-07-2013 10:35 AM)CDS86 Wrote:  What's going on with Holton? Injury?

Hmmm, thought he didn't qualify so he had to sit a year.

Yep, thats the case. He'll still have his 2 years of eligibility however.

(12-07-2013 10:36 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-07-2013 10:34 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Gonna have to find someone to get them the ball.

And therein lies the biggest question mark of the off season...because Kiel doesn't look like anything special so far, Coney can't hold onto the ball in game situations, and Munchie probably still won't be able to hit the broadside of a barn and now loses a majority of his mobility.

Just curious - what gives you this impression about Kiel? I'm not going to form an opinion based on how he played at ND as he was a freshman and was forced into action at times. Hopefully Coach Hinshaw's work with him over the year will help if this is really the case. I'm hoping his work with Coney will show next year as well.

(12-07-2013 10:56 AM)bearcatdp Wrote:  

(12-07-2013 10:36 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-07-2013 10:34 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Gonna have to find someone to get them the ball.

And therein lies the biggest question mark of the off season...because Kiel doesn't look like anything special so far, Coney can't hold onto the ball in game situations, and Munchie probably still won't be able to hit the broadside of a barn and now loses a majority of his mobility.

Just curious - what gives you this impression about Kiel? I'm not going to form an opinion based on how he played at ND as he was a freshman and was forced into action at times. Hopefully Coach Hinshaw's work with him over the year will help if this is really the case. I'm hoping his work with Coney will show next year as well.

I take.my.lunch break while the team is practicing most days. He hasn't looked very good in those practices so far, and he's not going up against the 1's and 2's on Defense.

(12-07-2013 10:01 AM)rosewater Wrote:  

(12-07-2013 09:32 AM)50Cent Wrote:  

(12-07-2013 09:28 AM)rosewater Wrote:  Great recruit, great freshman year and did a bigger disappearing act than our former wide receiver "bones"

injured and redshirting this year I believe

If Chisum returns, we are stacked at receiver. Chisum, McKay, Shaq, Morrison, Cole,

TT said in early October Chisum would be redshirted due to injury. He is definitely still with the team, I believe he was wearing his jersey over his street clothes Thursday.

I was just having a conversation this morning about how stacked we are at WR next year and forgot about Holton. Coney had a lot of buzz in the spring and training camp but has looked awful in very limited playing time. Hopefully it's just a product of extremely small sample size because we are insanely talented at WR for the next couple seasons. Real disappointed to hear these reports that Kiel isn't impressing in practice.

Also makes me wonder about our style of play. TT mentioned in his post game that it's hard to wear teams down without a big running back, I hope he's not intending to go back to ground and pound next year with our most talented group being the WRs. Now if he wants to add that as an additional option to an offense that gets the ball in the hands of its playmakers then I'm all for it.

There are also some young, talented TEs on the roster.

(12-07-2013 11:01 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-07-2013 10:56 AM)bearcatdp Wrote:  

(12-07-2013 10:36 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-07-2013 10:34 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Gonna have to find someone to get them the ball.

And therein lies the biggest question mark of the off season...because Kiel doesn't look like anything special so far, Coney can't hold onto the ball in game situations, and Munchie probably still won't be able to hit the broadside of a barn and now loses a majority of his mobility.

Just curious - what gives you this impression about Kiel? I'm not going to form an opinion based on how he played at ND as he was a freshman and was forced into action at times. Hopefully Coach Hinshaw's work with him over the year will help if this is really the case. I'm hoping his work with Coney will show next year as well.

I take.my.lunch break while the team is practicing most days. He hasn't looked very good in those practices so far, and he's not going up against the 1's and 2's on Defense.

Wow... That's a little surprising (and really disappointing). With Kiel, is it his decision making or just overall throwing ability making him look bad?

You can't really judge decision making with what he's doing (scout team snaps with Colosimo), but his arm looks weaker than I thought it would be and wild and he doesn't have a consistently tight spiral.

(12-07-2013 11:01 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  I take.my.lunch break while the team is practicing most days. He hasn't looked very good in those practices so far, and he's not going up against the 1's and 2's on Defense.

So the scout team spends its time preparing the 3s and 4s???

Do we expect Mark Barr to ever play again? or is his career over?

(12-07-2013 09:39 PM)GameTime_21 Wrote:  

(12-07-2013 11:01 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  I take.my.lunch break while the team is practicing most days. He hasn't looked very good in those practices so far, and he's not going up against the 1's and 2's on Defense.

So the scout team spends its time preparing the 3s and 4s???

They run 1's v. 1's for half of every practice, then transition to scout teams.