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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf...792066007/

I know I'm about a week late but this story is too funny not to post to the board.

Also, Illinois tight end Tip Reiman doesn't believe birds are real.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2024-...ld-theory/

I mean I'm a conspiracy theorist but this stuff is way out there. And these are college students? What is going on with NFL prospects these days?
That's almost as good as saying Caitlyn Clark could play in the NBA.
(03-06-2024 08:08 PM)C2__ Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf...792066007/

I know I'm about a week late but this story is too funny not to post to the board.

Also, Illinois tight end Tip Reiman doesn't believe birds are real.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2024-...ld-theory/

I mean I'm a conspiracy theorist but this stuff is way out there. And these are college students? What is going on with NFL prospects these days?
Maybe they are replicants. Nexus 5 models I'd say given their awareness of nature. Let's wait for Deckard to chime in.
We had someone here who said Roger Goodell orchestrated Taylor Swift dating Travis Kelce in the offseason and rigged the playoffs.
(03-06-2024 09:14 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: [ -> ]We had someone here who said Roger Goodell orchestrated Taylor Swift dating Travis Kelce in the offseason and rigged the playoffs.

I'm a lot more likely to believe that than something that ignores what you see in the sky and all astronomers agree on. I'd think even the flat Earth truthers believe in space.
(03-06-2024 10:52 PM)C2__ Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-06-2024 09:14 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: [ -> ]We had someone here who said Roger Goodell orchestrated Taylor Swift dating Travis Kelce in the offseason and rigged the playoffs.

I'm a lot more likely to believe that than something that ignores what you see in the sky and all astronomers agree on. I'd think even the flat Earth truthers believe in space.

It's turtles all the way down.
Marvin Barnes would be proud.

"There’s the one about the Spirits getting set to depart on a flight from Louisville at 8 a.m [EST]. that would get into St. Louis at 7:56 [CST]. After one look at his ticket, Barnes exclaimed “I ain’t getting on no time machine,” and promptly rented a car for the trip home."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/earl...ever-told/
Yeah. I linked to this a week ago on another thread.

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Speaking of education, here's the kind of publicity for a university that money can't buy.

03-wink

Interview with Tyler Owens, Texas Tech
https://twitter.com/brentsobleski/status...5142302759

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I didn't make a big deal out of it because there's no point in embarrassing his alma mater or his family any further. (And he's already done enough damage to his draft stock.)

Someone could pop out of any school and say something astonishingly ignorant. Societies provide education to help inoculate people against that, but results are never 100%.

Ignorance is, after all, the default setting. And there are those who would weaponize free speech. Since 1999 democracies have had to cope with deliberate poisoning of the information well.

Fortunately, conspiracism is a subject of research. You can major in it.

European Journal of Social Psychology

Conspiracy theories are commonly defined as explanatory beliefs about a group of actors that collude in secret to reach malevolent goals (Bale, 2007).
....
This emerging research domain has developed over the past decade and distills four basic principles that characterize belief in conspiracy theories. Specifically, conspiracy theories are consequential as they have a real impact on people's health, relationships, and safety; they are universal in that belief in them is widespread across times, cultures, and social settings; they are emotional given that negative emotions and not rational deliberations cause conspiracy beliefs; and they are social as conspiracy beliefs are closely associated with psychological motivations underlying intergroup conflict.
(03-06-2024 11:41 PM)Gitanole Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah. I linked to this a week ago on another thread.

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Speaking of education, here's the kind of publicity for a university that money can't buy.

03-wink

Interview with Tyler Owens, Texas Tech
https://twitter.com/brentsobleski/status...5142302759

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I didn't make a big deal out of it because there's no point in embarrassing his alma mater or his family any further. (And he's already done enough damage to his draft stock.)

Someone could pop out of any school and say something astonishingly ignorant. Societies provide education to help inoculate people against that, but results are never 100%.

Ignorance is, after all, the default setting. And there are those who would weaponize free speech. Since 1999 democracies have had to cope with deliberate poisoning of the information well.

Fortunately, conspiracism as a phenomenon is a subject of research. You can major in it, with reports like this as primary research documents.

European Journal of Social Psychology

Conspiracy theories are commonly defined as explanatory beliefs about a group of actors that collude in secret to reach malevolent goals (Bale, 2007).
....
This emerging research domain has developed over the past decade and distills four basic principles that characterize belief in conspiracy theories. Specifically, conspiracy theories are consequential as they have a real impact on people's health, relationships, and safety; they are universal in that belief in them is widespread across times, cultures, and social settings; they are emotional given that negative emotions and not rational deliberations cause conspiracy beliefs; and they are social as conspiracy beliefs are closely associated with psychological motivations underlying intergroup conflict.

I fail to see the connection from simple ignorance to conspiracies. Is it a conspiracy in his mind that space wasn't part of the universe or real? No. He's simply saying he doesn't believe in space. There isn't some vast centuries long denial of space, at least not one I've ever heard about. The most ancient of cultures had events designed around the constellations you could see in the night sky. Now if the lack of space contributed to Oswald's assassination of President Kennedy, then inquiring minds want to know and want to see the Enquirer's photos.

BTW, do you still have a pet Chupacabra?
I tend to believe these kinds of statements are just silliness to get press time and reactions more than they are actual answers believed by the players that say them.
Well, he justified it by saying he was very religious and a belief in aliens and other planets conflicted in his beliefs. I mean, still ridiculous considering all the proof we have about space and planets in Sol's system but at least you know where he's coming from.

And, gasp, the Bible does talk about other celestial bodies besides the sun and moon, such as the Pleiades, Arcturus, Orion and the Southern Cross (Job), Venus personified as Lucifer, both as the Devil and the dead king of Babylon (Isaiah ch. 14) as well as arguably Saturn (Amos 5:26). So maybe he hasn't read his Bible enough, not that I'm a literalist, I actually have an extremely liberal view and interpretation of the Bible.
(03-07-2024 02:06 AM)BePcr07 Wrote: [ -> ]I tend to believe these kinds of statements are just silliness to get press time and reactions more than they are actual answers believed by the players that say them.


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Outsized desire to feel special is strong among conspiracists, though. See the link in my next post.
(03-07-2024 12:06 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-06-2024 11:41 PM)Gitanole Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah. I linked to this a week ago on another thread.

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Speaking of education, here's the kind of publicity for a university that money can't buy.

03-wink

Interview with Tyler Owens, Texas Tech
https://twitter.com/brentsobleski/status...5142302759

---

I didn't make a big deal out of it because there's no point in embarrassing his alma mater or his family any further. (And he's already done enough damage to his draft stock.)

Someone could pop out of any school and say something astonishingly ignorant. Societies provide education to help inoculate people against that, but results are never 100%.

Ignorance is, after all, the default setting. And there are those who would weaponize free speech. Since 1999 democracies have had to cope with deliberate poisoning of the information well.

Fortunately, conspiracism as a phenomenon is a subject of research. You can major in it, with reports like this as primary research documents.

European Journal of Social Psychology

Conspiracy theories are commonly defined as explanatory beliefs about a group of actors that collude in secret to reach malevolent goals (Bale, 2007).
....
This emerging research domain has developed over the past decade and distills four basic principles that characterize belief in conspiracy theories. Specifically, conspiracy theories are consequential as they have a real impact on people's health, relationships, and safety; they are universal in that belief in them is widespread across times, cultures, and social settings; they are emotional given that negative emotions and not rational deliberations cause conspiracy beliefs; and they are social as conspiracy beliefs are closely associated with psychological motivations underlying intergroup conflict.

I fail to see the connection from simple ignorance to conspiracies. Is it a conspiracy in his mind that space wasn't part of the universe or real? No. He's simply saying he doesn't believe in space.
.....

To maintain a domed-flat-earth spaceless belief today as an adult, you have to believe that the entire scientific enterprise since the Renaissance has been a deliberate, coordinated lie. It's not just space agencies, Hubble, and Darwin lying to you, but Newton, Galileo, Herschel and even Aristotle. They're all in on the 'conspiracy.'

All of science, one big con? Rabbit holes don't get any bigger than that—yet this is what proselytizers for this view are telling people.

So what bug crawled into the conspiracist brain and died? A lot of research has been conducted in the last decade. Here's a summary of the findings so far.


What researchers are learning about conspiracist ideation


Excerpt:

According to a 2018 study, people who believe in conspiracy theories tend to show personality traits and characteristics such as:

paranoid or suspicious thinking
eccentricity
low trust in others
stronger need to feel special
belief in the world as a dangerous place
seeing meaningful patterns where none exist

The strongest predictor of belief in conspiracy theories, according to the study, is having a personality that falls into the spectrum of schizotypy.

Schizotypy is a set of personality traits that can range from magical thinking and dissociative states to disorganized thinking patterns and psychosis.
....

Preliminary research also suggests that belief in conspiracy theories is linked to people’s need for uniqueness. The higher the need to feel special and unique, the more likely a person is to believe a conspiracy theory.
(03-07-2024 04:44 AM)Gitanole Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-07-2024 12:06 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-06-2024 11:41 PM)Gitanole Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah. I linked to this a week ago on another thread.

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Speaking of education, here's the kind of publicity for a university that money can't buy.

03-wink

Interview with Tyler Owens, Texas Tech
https://twitter.com/brentsobleski/status...5142302759

---

I didn't make a big deal out of it because there's no point in embarrassing his alma mater or his family any further. (And he's already done enough damage to his draft stock.)

Someone could pop out of any school and say something astonishingly ignorant. Societies provide education to help inoculate people against that, but results are never 100%.

Ignorance is, after all, the default setting. And there are those who would weaponize free speech. Since 1999 democracies have had to cope with deliberate poisoning of the information well.

Fortunately, conspiracism as a phenomenon is a subject of research. You can major in it, with reports like this as primary research documents.

European Journal of Social Psychology

Conspiracy theories are commonly defined as explanatory beliefs about a group of actors that collude in secret to reach malevolent goals (Bale, 2007).
....
This emerging research domain has developed over the past decade and distills four basic principles that characterize belief in conspiracy theories. Specifically, conspiracy theories are consequential as they have a real impact on people's health, relationships, and safety; they are universal in that belief in them is widespread across times, cultures, and social settings; they are emotional given that negative emotions and not rational deliberations cause conspiracy beliefs; and they are social as conspiracy beliefs are closely associated with psychological motivations underlying intergroup conflict.

I fail to see the connection from simple ignorance to conspiracies. Is it a conspiracy in his mind that space wasn't part of the universe or real? No. He's simply saying he doesn't believe in space.
.....

To maintain a domed-flat-earth spaceless belief today as an adult, you have to believe that the entire scientific enterprise since the Renaissance has been a deliberate, coordinated lie. It's not just space agencies, Hubble, and Darwin lying to you, but Newton, Galileo, Herschel and even Aristotle. They're all in on the 'conspiracy.'

All of science, one big con? Rabbit holes don't get any bigger than that—yet this is what proselytizers for this view are telling people.

So what bug crawled into the conspiracist brain and died? A lot of research has been conducted in the last decade. Here's a summary of the findings so far.


What researchers are learning about conspiracist ideation


Excerpt:

According to a 2018 study, people who believe in conspiracy theories tend to show personality traits and characteristics such as:

paranoid or suspicious thinking
eccentricity
low trust in others
stronger need to feel special
belief in the world as a dangerous place
seeing meaningful patterns where none exist

The strongest predictor of belief in conspiracy theories, according to the study, is having a personality that falls into the spectrum of schizotypy.

Schizotypy is a set of personality traits that can range from magical thinking and dissociative states to disorganized thinking patterns and psychosis.
....

Preliminary research also suggests that belief in conspiracy theories is linked to people’s need for uniqueness. The higher the need to feel special and unique, the more likely a person is to believe a conspiracy theory.

So, the belief that each person is unique, a Christian principle, therefore makes one a conspiratorialist? How convenient it must be for atheists and socialists to believe this tripe? Not even identical twins are truly identical. Life experiences if nothing else makes each person unique. 07-coffee3

Does claiming that every great inventor, every great mind, and everything that advanced science from the beginning of time until now is somehow not unique or special make you feel special and more advanced than everyone else? The very nature of diagnosis is the seeing of meaningful patterns where none thought any existed. The truly brilliant are eccentric. Einstein stood out for a reason; he was preoccupied with his own thoughts. And outside of certain bubbles the world is a dangerous place, and it is wise to be suspicious. Just ask the poor in the inner cities. The most dangerous creature you can run into is a human. The polar bear kills when it is threatened or hungry. Only man kills simply because he can or wants to do so. Of your list only paranoia is truly a psychosis and just because you are paranoid, it doesn't mean the world is safe.

I passed on your post initially, but then realized that it was actually a projection. Your further elucidation of the point really confirms it. What a tidy world indeed for the delusional to be able to paint anyone who disagrees with them, thinks independently, analyzes data, and sees patterns at work where perhaps nobody else has seen them, or maybe contemporary academia sees them, or is uniquely excentric and sees things absolutely nobody else sees, like string theory, and to use your little rule to place them all beneath you, and worse, to label them as psychotic. People figured out orbits, and gravity, and just about everything which later scientific method proved to be true when nobody else saw the patterns and before they had the instruments that most would believe were required to even be able to study it. And as for the bucolic, they figured out the lunar and solar calendars simply by counting cycles and then extrapolated that to know the seasons well enough to approximate the best time to plant and to harvest. The uniqueness of every creature in each species is genetic or experiential and alters how each reacts to the stimuli of the world around them. To observe nature is to both be in awe of its diversity, and of its violent nature.

When there is no crime, no gang violence, no terrorism, and no war, and everyone lives to be 120 (which is about the maximum considering the impact of solar radiation upon the human body) and everyone shares the necessities of life with each other willingly, and all creatures stop predation, and the perfect ecosystem is developed and you can walk through an unsettled natural forest unarmed without encountering a predator or just a viper you accidentally stepped upon, then you will be able to reasonably believe that the world is not dangerous. Otherwise, to abandon the natural wariness that all who understand humanity and nature have, is best described by another word, foolish. Hey, do some organizing in inner cities, especially that which targets some profitable criminal enterprises and get back to me on that "The world is not dangerous" thing. I'll be all ears.
(03-07-2024 04:44 AM)Gitanole Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-07-2024 12:06 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-06-2024 11:41 PM)Gitanole Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah. I linked to this a week ago on another thread.

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Speaking of education, here's the kind of publicity for a university that money can't buy.

03-wink

Interview with Tyler Owens, Texas Tech
https://twitter.com/brentsobleski/status...5142302759

---

I didn't make a big deal out of it because there's no point in embarrassing his alma mater or his family any further. (And he's already done enough damage to his draft stock.)

Someone could pop out of any school and say something astonishingly ignorant. Societies provide education to help inoculate people against that, but results are never 100%.

Ignorance is, after all, the default setting. And there are those who would weaponize free speech. Since 1999 democracies have had to cope with deliberate poisoning of the information well.

Fortunately, conspiracism as a phenomenon is a subject of research. You can major in it, with reports like this as primary research documents.

European Journal of Social Psychology

Conspiracy theories are commonly defined as explanatory beliefs about a group of actors that collude in secret to reach malevolent goals (Bale, 2007).
....
This emerging research domain has developed over the past decade and distills four basic principles that characterize belief in conspiracy theories. Specifically, conspiracy theories are consequential as they have a real impact on people's health, relationships, and safety; they are universal in that belief in them is widespread across times, cultures, and social settings; they are emotional given that negative emotions and not rational deliberations cause conspiracy beliefs; and they are social as conspiracy beliefs are closely associated with psychological motivations underlying intergroup conflict.

I fail to see the connection from simple ignorance to conspiracies. Is it a conspiracy in his mind that space wasn't part of the universe or real? No. He's simply saying he doesn't believe in space.
.....

To maintain a domed-flat-earth spaceless belief today as an adult, you have to believe that the entire scientific enterprise since the Renaissance has been a deliberate, coordinated lie. It's not just space agencies, Hubble, and Darwin lying to you, but Newton, Galileo, Herschel and even Aristotle. They're all in on the 'conspiracy.'

All of science, one big con? Rabbit holes don't get any bigger than that—yet this is what proselytizers for this view are telling people.

So what bug crawled into the conspiracist brain and died? A lot of research has been conducted in the last decade. Here's a summary of the findings so far.


What researchers are learning about conspiracist ideation


Excerpt:

According to a 2018 study, people who believe in conspiracy theories tend to show personality traits and characteristics such as:

paranoid or suspicious thinking
eccentricity
low trust in others
stronger need to feel special
belief in the world as a dangerous place
seeing meaningful patterns where none exist

The strongest predictor of belief in conspiracy theories, according to the study, is having a personality that falls into the spectrum of schizotypy.

Schizotypy is a set of personality traits that can range from magical thinking and dissociative states to disorganized thinking patterns and psychosis.
....

Preliminary research also suggests that belief in conspiracy theories is linked to people’s need for uniqueness. The higher the need to feel special and unique, the more likely a person is to believe a conspiracy theory.

The problem isn't believing in conspiracy theories makes you mentally ill. It's believing everything is a conspiracy. That's where some people really lose themselves and go off the deep end.

Believe me, I've looked into a number of conspiracy theories and a lot of them are very compelling and even damning if you weigh enough facts (i.e. a grain of salt eventually leads to a salt shaker). I won't get into which ones they are, if for no other reason than to not have this thread moved elsewhere (though that seems inevitable) but they become more obvious with the more research you put into them. But that doesn't mean they're all valid, and that's where a lot of people lose themselves at.
(03-06-2024 08:08 PM)C2__ Wrote: [ -> ]Also, Illinois tight end Tip Reiman doesn't believe birds are real.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2024-...ld-theory/

Wow. What exactly has Mr. Reiman seen that makes him think our government, or any other, is capable of successfully deploying and managing billions of feathered spies?
(03-07-2024 06:22 AM)C2__ Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-07-2024 04:44 AM)Gitanole Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-07-2024 12:06 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-06-2024 11:41 PM)Gitanole Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah. I linked to this a week ago on another thread.

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Speaking of education, here's the kind of publicity for a university that money can't buy.

03-wink

Interview with Tyler Owens, Texas Tech
https://twitter.com/brentsobleski/status...5142302759

---

I didn't make a big deal out of it because there's no point in embarrassing his alma mater or his family any further. (And he's already done enough damage to his draft stock.)

Someone could pop out of any school and say something astonishingly ignorant. Societies provide education to help inoculate people against that, but results are never 100%.

Ignorance is, after all, the default setting. And there are those who would weaponize free speech. Since 1999 democracies have had to cope with deliberate poisoning of the information well.

Fortunately, conspiracism as a phenomenon is a subject of research. You can major in it, with reports like this as primary research documents.

European Journal of Social Psychology

Conspiracy theories are commonly defined as explanatory beliefs about a group of actors that collude in secret to reach malevolent goals (Bale, 2007).
....
This emerging research domain has developed over the past decade and distills four basic principles that characterize belief in conspiracy theories. Specifically, conspiracy theories are consequential as they have a real impact on people's health, relationships, and safety; they are universal in that belief in them is widespread across times, cultures, and social settings; they are emotional given that negative emotions and not rational deliberations cause conspiracy beliefs; and they are social as conspiracy beliefs are closely associated with psychological motivations underlying intergroup conflict.

I fail to see the connection from simple ignorance to conspiracies. Is it a conspiracy in his mind that space wasn't part of the universe or real? No. He's simply saying he doesn't believe in space.
.....

To maintain a domed-flat-earth spaceless belief today as an adult, you have to believe that the entire scientific enterprise since the Renaissance is a deliberate, coordinated lie. It's not just the space agencies, Hubble, Salk and Darwin lying to you. It's Newton, Galileo, Herschel and even Aristotle. They're all in on the 'conspiracy.'

All of science, one big con? Rabbit holes don't get any bigger than that—yet this is what flat earthers are telling people.

So what bug crawled into the conspiracist brain and died? A lot of research has been conducted in the last decade. Here's a summary of the findings so far.


What researchers are learning about conspiracist ideation


Excerpt:

According to a 2018 study, people who believe in conspiracy theories tend to show personality traits and characteristics such as:

paranoid or suspicious thinking
eccentricity
low trust in others
stronger need to feel special
belief in the world as a dangerous place
seeing meaningful patterns where none exist

The strongest predictor of belief in conspiracy theories, according to the study, is having a personality that falls into the spectrum of schizotypy.

Schizotypy is a set of personality traits that can range from magical thinking and dissociative states to disorganized thinking patterns and psychosis.
....

Preliminary research also suggests that belief in conspiracy theories is linked to people’s need for uniqueness. The higher the need to feel special and unique, the more likely a person is to believe a conspiracy theory.

The problem isn't believing in conspiracy theories makes you mentally ill. It's believing everything is a conspiracy. That's where some people really lose themselves and go off the deep end.

Believe me, I've looked into a number of conspiracy theories and a lot of them are very compelling and even damning if you weigh enough facts (i.e. a grain of salt eventually leads to a salt shaker). I won't get into which ones they are, if for no other reason than to not have this thread moved elsewhere (though that seems inevitable) but they become more obvious with the more research you put into them. But that doesn't mean they're all valid, and that's where a lot of people lose themselves at.

I think the linked articles above do a good job of defining and describing what they study. Context is everything. I encourage readers to take a look.

Here's a fascinating landmark study from the UK, 2012. You can download the PDF copy for free.

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Dead and Alive

Researchers here found that those prone to conspiracist ideation will assert two contradictory beliefs as 'likely to be true'—provided neither statement represents the consensus evidence-based view.

This is not how most people think. If Syracuse and Pittsburgh are playing next week, and I ask you to choose who is 'most likely' to win, you will choose either Syracuse or Pittsburgh. Logically, if one outcome is more likely, the other is less likely. You won't say 'neither' or 'both,' because that makes no sense.

Except to conspiracists. They find it much easier to assert two contradictory statements at the same time.

In the 'Dead and Alive' study just linked, British people were sorted into two groups: those prone to conspiracist ideation and those not. Everyone got a questionnaire asking them to rate statements as more or less likely to be true. Among the statements were assertions about Princess Diana's death.

Conspiracists, far more than people in the other group, disbelieved the well-known evidence-based reports. But when asked what the 'real' story was, they agreed to contradictory statements. They said it was 'likely' that Diana Spencer was already dead at the time of the infamous car crash. They also said it is 'likely' that she remains alive somewhere.

Obviously, both of those can't be 'likely' at the same time. What mattered most to the conspiracist group was that both stories contradicted the consensus view.

A similar study was run in the USA. The method was the same. This time the questionnaire had statements about Osama bin Laden's death. Conspiracists denied, of course, that he was killed in the SEAL raid on his house in Pakistan. They said it was 'likely' that he was already long dead. They also said it is 'likely' that he remains alive somewhere. Again: a logical contradiction.

There's more. Check it out. It's a fascinating read.

The identifying mark of conspiracism is not the occasional thought that someone somewhere might be up to no good. It's the habitual use of shadowy plots by a hidden 'they' as one's all-purpose explainer.

As C2 says, 'That's when things go off the deep end.'
(03-07-2024 03:06 AM)C2__ Wrote: [ -> ]Well, he justified it by saying he was very religious and a belief in aliens and other planets conflicted in his beliefs. I mean, still ridiculous considering all the proof we have about space and planets in Sol's system but at least you know where he's coming from.

And, gasp, the Bible does talk about other celestial bodies besides the sun and moon, such as the Pleiades, Arcturus, Orion and the Southern Cross (Job), Venus personified as Lucifer, both as the Devil and the dead king of Babylon (Isaiah ch. 14) as well as arguably Saturn (Amos 5:26). So maybe he hasn't read his Bible enough, not that I'm a literalist, I actually have an extremely liberal view and interpretation of the Bible.

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Stars can be inside the firmament.
I heard the claim that birds arent real before but not the one about space. As Spock would say " fascinating"
(03-07-2024 02:06 AM)BePcr07 Wrote: [ -> ]I tend to believe these kinds of statements are just silliness to get press time and reactions more than they are actual answers believed by the players that say them.

The Birds Aren't Real movement is satire and make a mockery of conspiracy theories. So that may be the case. Unfortunately belief in a flat earth is real and growing.
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