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stayed in CUSA.
I don't know what's worse. This stupid conversation yet again or the fact that you think it's right.
(12-23-2023 04:07 PM)forphase1 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know what's worse. This stupid conversation yet again or the fact that you think it's right.

Who has the NY6, Bowl, and OOC record.
(12-23-2023 04:09 PM)Johns1124 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-23-2023 04:07 PM)forphase1 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know what's worse. This stupid conversation yet again or the fact that you think it's right.

Who has the NY6, Bowl, and OOC record.

Who had 4 bowl teams, and who had 12? Who has a better TV contract? Who is better geographically for all our programs? Who has football opponents we actually care something about? Etc, etc. Sunbelt is better for us by any reasonable measurement. But hey, if you love CUSA that much, pick one of those teams to start following. I'm tickled they are in our rear view mirror, and now I just wait for DD and Huff to be there too. Then we can move Marshall forward.
(12-23-2023 04:16 PM)forphase1 Wrote: [ -> ]Who had 4 bowl teams, and who had 12? Who has a better TV contract? Who is better geographically for all our programs? Who has football opponents we actually care something about? Etc, etc. Sunbelt is better for us by any reasonable measurement. But hey, if you love CUSA that much, pick one of those teams to start following. I'm tickled they are in our rear view mirror, and now I just wait for DD and Huff to be there too. Then we can move Marshall forward.

What measurement? So if the AAC comes calling, we say no thanks we will stay in SB. Exactly, no we don't.

DD agreed, but Huff jury is still out on him.
Way to give me negative, douch.
(12-23-2023 04:25 PM)Johns1124 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-23-2023 04:16 PM)forphase1 Wrote: [ -> ]Who had 4 bowl teams, and who had 12? Who has a better TV contract? Who is better geographically for all our programs? Who has football opponents we actually care something about? Etc, etc. Sunbelt is better for us by any reasonable measurement. But hey, if you love CUSA that much, pick one of those teams to start following. I'm tickled they are in our rear view mirror, and now I just wait for DD and Huff to be there too. Then we can move Marshall forward.

What measurement? So if the AAC comes calling, we say no thanks we will stay in SB. Exactly, no we don't.

DD agreed, but Huff jury is still out on him.

AAC will never come calling and the SBC will surpass them (I think we have already). SBC will get our NY6 Bid sooner or later. CUSA can rot in hell for all I care.
(12-23-2023 04:25 PM)Johns1124 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-23-2023 04:16 PM)forphase1 Wrote: [ -> ]Who had 4 bowl teams, and who had 12? Who has a better TV contract? Who is better geographically for all our programs? Who has football opponents we actually care something about? Etc, etc. Sunbelt is better for us by any reasonable measurement. But hey, if you love CUSA that much, pick one of those teams to start following. I'm tickled they are in our rear view mirror, and now I just wait for DD and Huff to be there too. Then we can move Marshall forward.

What measurement? So if the AAC comes calling, we say no thanks we will stay in SB. Exactly, no we don't.

DD agreed, but Huff jury is still out on him.

You were talking about CUSA, not AAC. If the AAC comes calling, I'm not sure what we should do. I lean towards staying in the Sunbelt, but a reasonable argument can be made, as there are some ok teams still there that are at least somewhat interesting (ECU, Navy, UAB, etc) and there contract was/is better, though I'm not sure it will be the case in the future. But there is NOTHING in CUSA outside a VERY little interest in WKU and an even smaller interest in Liberty. Nothing else in that frankenconference is interesting at all, just a bunch of teams that are out west or programs that should have never moved up to i-A.

And no, the jury is NOT still out on Huff. The verdict has been rendered, and he is GUILTY of being a bad head coach, way over his head, and needs fired.
(12-23-2023 04:16 PM)forphase1 Wrote: [ -> ]You were talking about CUSA, not AAC. If the AAC comes calling, I'm not sure what we should do. I lean towards staying in the Sunbelt, but a reasonable argument can be made, as there are some ok teams still there that are at least somewhat interesting (ECU, Navy, UAB, etc) and there contract was/is better, though I'm not sure it will be the case in the future. But there is NOTHING in CUSA outside a VERY little interest in WKU and an even smaller interest in Liberty. Nothing else in that frankenconference is interesting at all, just a bunch of teams that are out west or programs that should have never moved up to i-A.

And no, the jury is NOT still out on Huff. The verdict has been rendered, and he is GUILTY of being a bad head coach, way over his head, and needs fired.

Maybe no interest to you, but Liberty has an interest in the committee. That's whose opinion counts.
Huff is WAY Over his head? He had a couple of marquee wins. One against a team we have not been able to beat. He hung in close to NCSU #18
I would not say totally over his head. If he is guilty of anything, it's thinking too far ahead of his career. Overlooking his current job. Now he is in a bind
He needs MU far more than MU might need him. He has one year to prove he can put together a complete season, or...


(12-23-2023 09:45 PM)GreenBison Wrote: [ -> ]AAC will never come calling and the SBC will surpass them (I think we have already). SBC will get our NY6 Bid sooner or later. CUSA can rot in hell for all I care.

Not sure we are no matter how much the main board thinks they are. AAC + MTW are above us at this point.
(12-24-2023 10:18 AM)Johns1124 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-23-2023 04:16 PM)forphase1 Wrote: [ -> ]You were talking about CUSA, not AAC. If the AAC comes calling, I'm not sure what we should do. I lean towards staying in the Sunbelt, but a reasonable argument can be made, as there are some ok teams still there that are at least somewhat interesting (ECU, Navy, UAB, etc) and there contract was/is better, though I'm not sure it will be the case in the future. But there is NOTHING in CUSA outside a VERY little interest in WKU and an even smaller interest in Liberty. Nothing else in that frankenconference is interesting at all, just a bunch of teams that are out west or programs that should have never moved up to i-A.

And no, the jury is NOT still out on Huff. The verdict has been rendered, and he is GUILTY of being a bad head coach, way over his head, and needs fired.

Maybe no interest to you, but Liberty has an interest in the committee. That's whose opinion counts.
Huff is WAY Over his head? He had a couple of marquee wins. One against a team we have not been able to beat. He hung in close to NCSU #18
I would not say totally over his head. If he is guilty of anything, it's thinking too far ahead of his career. Overlooking his current job. Now he is in a bind
He needs MU far more than MU might need him. He has one year to prove he can put together a complete season, or...


(12-23-2023 09:45 PM)GreenBison Wrote: [ -> ]AAC will never come calling and the SBC will surpass them (I think we have already). SBC will get our NY6 Bid sooner or later. CUSA can rot in hell for all I care.

Not sure we are no matter how much the main board thinks they are. AAC + MTW are above us at this point.

The committee has no interest in Liberty. Or in ANY G5 really. Each year they will look at whoever the top G5 schools are to pick the access spot but that's it. Do you think the committee cares at all about Western Michigan (2016) or Memphis (2019) this year? Of course not as they weren't in the running this year. Liberty is only a story because of their record this year, not because anyone really cares about them nationally.

As to Sunbelt versus other conferences by most unbiased measures, the SBC East was the top G5 division this year, with the SBC West being slightly behind. Overall the SBC is right there with the MWC and AAC, ahead of them in some places, slightly behind on others. You may feel the SBC is behind the other two, but the industry doesn't really agree.

As to Huff, he went 3-5 against the SBC, a group you say is behind the AAC and MWC. How is that NOT being over his head? Sure, he has some decent wins, but that's always followed up by stupid, inexcusable losses. He's over his head, should have already been sacked, and next year is going to be pathetic.
(12-24-2023 01:38 PM)forphase1 Wrote: [ -> ]The committee has no interest in Liberty. Or in ANY G5 really. Each year they will look at whoever the top G5 schools are to pick the access spot but that's it. Do you think the committee cares at all about Western Michigan (2016) or Memphis (2019) this year? Of course not as they weren't in the running this year. Liberty is only a story because of their record this year, not because anyone really cares about them nationally.

As to Sunbelt versus other conferences by most unbiased measures, the SBC East was the top G5 division this year, with the SBC West being slightly behind. Overall the SBC is right there with the MWC and AAC, ahead of them in some places, slightly behind on others. You may feel the SBC is behind the other two, but the industry doesn't really agree.

As to Huff, he went 3-5 against the SBC, a group you say is behind the AAC and MWC. How is that NOT being over his head? Sure, he has some decent wins, but that's always followed up by stupid, inexcusable losses. He's over his head, should have already been sacked, and next year is going to be pathetic.

https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/sunbelt/acc.shtml

2023: AAC 6 - 2 SBC
2022: AAC 5 - 0 SBC

CUSA
https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/confusa/sunbelt.shtml

2023: SBC 3 CUSA 2
2022: SBC 6 CUSA 12

Not exactly domination. Not sure where you get the best G5 conference. Stats show something different.

https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/sunbelt/mac.shtml

2023 SBC: 4 MAC 3
2022 SBC: 4 MAC 2

Huff went 3-5 with a hurt QB. Fancher was hurt at NCSU and was not right from App St, until he returned at Ark St.

Do you think being "Over his head" because his #1 QB was hurt? We basically had our 4th string QB in the game for Ga. State and South Alabama. The only thing was Huffs was not thinking long-term in his recruitment. I think he has learned the hard way. The only person who was over his head was Cole and his QB play.
(12-24-2023 06:42 PM)Johns1124 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-24-2023 01:38 PM)forphase1 Wrote: [ -> ]The committee has no interest in Liberty. Or in ANY G5 really. Each year they will look at whoever the top G5 schools are to pick the access spot but that's it. Do you think the committee cares at all about Western Michigan (2016) or Memphis (2019) this year? Of course not as they weren't in the running this year. Liberty is only a story because of their record this year, not because anyone really cares about them nationally.

As to Sunbelt versus other conferences by most unbiased measures, the SBC East was the top G5 division this year, with the SBC West being slightly behind. Overall the SBC is right there with the MWC and AAC, ahead of them in some places, slightly behind on others. You may feel the SBC is behind the other two, but the industry doesn't really agree.

As to Huff, he went 3-5 against the SBC, a group you say is behind the AAC and MWC. How is that NOT being over his head? Sure, he has some decent wins, but that's always followed up by stupid, inexcusable losses. He's over his head, should have already been sacked, and next year is going to be pathetic.

https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/sunbelt/acc.shtml

2023: AAC 6 - 2 SBC
2022: AAC 5 - 0 SBC

CUSA
https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/confusa/sunbelt.shtml

2023: SBC 3 CUSA 2
2022: SBC 6 CUSA 12

Not exactly domination. Not sure where you get the best G5 conference. Stats show something different.

https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/sunbelt/mac.shtml

2023 SBC: 4 MAC 3
2022 SBC: 4 MAC 2

Huff went 3-5 with a hurt QB. Fancher was hurt at NCSU and was not right from App St, until he returned at Ark St.

Do you think being "Over his head" because his #1 QB was hurt? We basically had our 4th string QB in the game for Ga. State and South Alabama. The only thing was Huffs was not thinking long-term in his recruitment. I think he has learned the hard way. The only person who was over his head was Cole and his QB play.

Sagarin and most rating places have the SBC, AAC and MWC pretty much neck to neck. Some we are slightly ahead. Some we are slightly behind.

As to Huff, the fact that Fancher was the #1 QB is evidence enough that he's over his head. Fancher sucks, and the fact that Fancher was the best qb Huff was able to put on the field in year 3 is evidence enough. Cole is not the answer either IMO, though I'm glad he got a chance to play. Huff is a bad coach, plain and simple. Like Dan he accomplished some amazing things (Notre Dame primarily, beat a terrible VT this year), but overall body of work is poor. As a program we are in a worse stage now than when Doc was fired, and that's saying something. Keeping Huff for 2024 only puts off the inevitable rebuild another year.
(12-24-2023 07:40 PM)forphase1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-24-2023 06:42 PM)Johns1124 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-24-2023 01:38 PM)forphase1 Wrote: [ -> ]The committee has no interest in Liberty. Or in ANY G5 really. Each year they will look at whoever the top G5 schools are to pick the access spot but that's it. Do you think the committee cares at all about Western Michigan (2016) or Memphis (2019) this year? Of course not as they weren't in the running this year. Liberty is only a story because of their record this year, not because anyone really cares about them nationally.

As to Sunbelt versus other conferences by most unbiased measures, the SBC East was the top G5 division this year, with the SBC West being slightly behind. Overall the SBC is right there with the MWC and AAC, ahead of them in some places, slightly behind on others. You may feel the SBC is behind the other two, but the industry doesn't really agree.

As to Huff, he went 3-5 against the SBC, a group you say is behind the AAC and MWC. How is that NOT being over his head? Sure, he has some decent wins, but that's always followed up by stupid, inexcusable losses. He's over his head, should have already been sacked, and next year is going to be pathetic.

https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/sunbelt/acc.shtml

2023: AAC 6 - 2 SBC
2022: AAC 5 - 0 SBC

CUSA
https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/confusa/sunbelt.shtml

2023: SBC 3 CUSA 2
2022: SBC 6 CUSA 12

Not exactly domination. Not sure where you get the best G5 conference. Stats show something different.

https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/sunbelt/mac.shtml

2023 SBC: 4 MAC 3
2022 SBC: 4 MAC 2

Huff went 3-5 with a hurt QB. Fancher was hurt at NCSU and was not right from App St, until he returned at Ark St.

Do you think being "Over his head" because his #1 QB was hurt? We basically had our 4th string QB in the game for Ga. State and South Alabama. The only thing was Huffs was not thinking long-term in his recruitment. I think he has learned the hard way. The only person who was over his head was Cole and his QB play.

Sagarin and most rating places have the SBC, AAC and MWC pretty much neck to neck. Some we are slightly ahead. Some we are slightly behind.

As to Huff, the fact that Fancher was the #1 QB is evidence enough that he's over his head. Fancher sucks, and the fact that Fancher was the best qb Huff was able to put on the field in year 3 is evidence enough. Cole is not the answer either IMO, though I'm glad he got a chance to play. Huff is a bad coach, plain and simple. Like Dan he accomplished some amazing things (Notre Dame primarily, beat a terrible VT this year), but overall body of work is poor. As a program we are in a worse stage now than when Doc was fired, and that's saying something. Keeping Huff for 2024 only puts off the inevitable rebuild another year.

The Results are IN!!!! SBC Baby! AACk can suck it!

https://masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings?c=1

SEC W
B10 E
SEC
P12 N
SEC E
P12
B12
B10
P12 S
ACC
B10 W
SBC E
SBC

MWC
AAC
SBC W
CUSA
MAC W
MAC
MAC E
Wish we could finally put this to rest.

In the SBC, we are finally in a thriving conference with teams that want to be here while playing in a division with teams on the east coast. It's great.

If we were still in CUSA, we'd be playing more startup FCS teams that are located all across the country. CUSA never appreciated the eastern block of schools. They were happy with their many Texas schools and it cost them the SBC3 schools.
(01-05-2024 10:40 AM)Surbadger Wrote: [ -> ]Wish we could finally put this to rest.

In the SBC, we are finally in a thriving conference with teams that want to be here while playing in a division with teams on the east coast. It's great.

If we were still in CUSA, we'd be playing more startup FCS teams that are located all across the country. CUSA never appreciated the eastern block of schools. They were happy with their many Texas schools and it cost them the SBC3 schools.

Look Duche, we already have idiot fans from one school who single out people to downvote. We don't need fans from the same school doing the same.
(01-05-2024 10:29 AM)GreenBison Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-24-2023 07:40 PM)forphase1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-24-2023 06:42 PM)Johns1124 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-24-2023 01:38 PM)forphase1 Wrote: [ -> ]The committee has no interest in Liberty. Or in ANY G5 really. Each year they will look at whoever the top G5 schools are to pick the access spot but that's it. Do you think the committee cares at all about Western Michigan (2016) or Memphis (2019) this year? Of course not as they weren't in the running this year. Liberty is only a story because of their record this year, not because anyone really cares about them nationally.

As to Sunbelt versus other conferences by most unbiased measures, the SBC East was the top G5 division this year, with the SBC West being slightly behind. Overall the SBC is right there with the MWC and AAC, ahead of them in some places, slightly behind on others. You may feel the SBC is behind the other two, but the industry doesn't really agree.

As to Huff, he went 3-5 against the SBC, a group you say is behind the AAC and MWC. How is that NOT being over his head? Sure, he has some decent wins, but that's always followed up by stupid, inexcusable losses. He's over his head, should have already been sacked, and next year is going to be pathetic.

https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/sunbelt/acc.shtml

2023: AAC 6 - 2 SBC
2022: AAC 5 - 0 SBC

CUSA
https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/confusa/sunbelt.shtml

2023: SBC 3 CUSA 2
2022: SBC 6 CUSA 12

Not exactly domination. Not sure where you get the best G5 conference. Stats show something different.

https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/sunbelt/mac.shtml

2023 SBC: 4 MAC 3
2022 SBC: 4 MAC 2

Huff went 3-5 with a hurt QB. Fancher was hurt at NCSU and was not right from App St, until he returned at Ark St.

Do you think being "Over his head" because his #1 QB was hurt? We basically had our 4th string QB in the game for Ga. State and South Alabama. The only thing was Huffs was not thinking long-term in his recruitment. I think he has learned the hard way. The only person who was over his head was Cole and his QB play.

Sagarin and most rating places have the SBC, AAC and MWC pretty much neck to neck. Some we are slightly ahead. Some we are slightly behind.

As to Huff, the fact that Fancher was the #1 QB is evidence enough that he's over his head. Fancher sucks, and the fact that Fancher was the best qb Huff was able to put on the field in year 3 is evidence enough. Cole is not the answer either IMO, though I'm glad he got a chance to play. Huff is a bad coach, plain and simple. Like Dan he accomplished some amazing things (Notre Dame primarily, beat a terrible VT this year), but overall body of work is poor. As a program we are in a worse stage now than when Doc was fired, and that's saying something. Keeping Huff for 2024 only puts off the inevitable rebuild another year.

The Results are IN!!!! SBC Baby! AACk can suck it!

https://masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings?c=1

SEC W
B10 E
SEC
P12 N
SEC E
P12
B12
B10
P12 S
ACC
B10 W
SBC E
SBC

MWC
AAC
SBC W
CUSA
MAC W
MAC
MAC E

I wouldn't hang my hat on Massey ratings.
(01-05-2024 11:27 AM)Johns1124 Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-05-2024 10:29 AM)GreenBison Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-24-2023 07:40 PM)forphase1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-24-2023 06:42 PM)Johns1124 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-24-2023 01:38 PM)forphase1 Wrote: [ -> ]The committee has no interest in Liberty. Or in ANY G5 really. Each year they will look at whoever the top G5 schools are to pick the access spot but that's it. Do you think the committee cares at all about Western Michigan (2016) or Memphis (2019) this year? Of course not as they weren't in the running this year. Liberty is only a story because of their record this year, not because anyone really cares about them nationally.

As to Sunbelt versus other conferences by most unbiased measures, the SBC East was the top G5 division this year, with the SBC West being slightly behind. Overall the SBC is right there with the MWC and AAC, ahead of them in some places, slightly behind on others. You may feel the SBC is behind the other two, but the industry doesn't really agree.

As to Huff, he went 3-5 against the SBC, a group you say is behind the AAC and MWC. How is that NOT being over his head? Sure, he has some decent wins, but that's always followed up by stupid, inexcusable losses. He's over his head, should have already been sacked, and next year is going to be pathetic.

https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/sunbelt/acc.shtml

2023: AAC 6 - 2 SBC
2022: AAC 5 - 0 SBC

CUSA
https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/confusa/sunbelt.shtml

2023: SBC 3 CUSA 2
2022: SBC 6 CUSA 12

Not exactly domination. Not sure where you get the best G5 conference. Stats show something different.

https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/sunbelt/mac.shtml

2023 SBC: 4 MAC 3
2022 SBC: 4 MAC 2

Huff went 3-5 with a hurt QB. Fancher was hurt at NCSU and was not right from App St, until he returned at Ark St.

Do you think being "Over his head" because his #1 QB was hurt? We basically had our 4th string QB in the game for Ga. State and South Alabama. The only thing was Huffs was not thinking long-term in his recruitment. I think he has learned the hard way. The only person who was over his head was Cole and his QB play.

Sagarin and most rating places have the SBC, AAC and MWC pretty much neck to neck. Some we are slightly ahead. Some we are slightly behind.

As to Huff, the fact that Fancher was the #1 QB is evidence enough that he's over his head. Fancher sucks, and the fact that Fancher was the best qb Huff was able to put on the field in year 3 is evidence enough. Cole is not the answer either IMO, though I'm glad he got a chance to play. Huff is a bad coach, plain and simple. Like Dan he accomplished some amazing things (Notre Dame primarily, beat a terrible VT this year), but overall body of work is poor. As a program we are in a worse stage now than when Doc was fired, and that's saying something. Keeping Huff for 2024 only puts off the inevitable rebuild another year.

The Results are IN!!!! SBC Baby! AACk can suck it!

https://masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings?c=1

SEC W
B10 E
SEC
P12 N
SEC E
P12
B12
B10
P12 S
ACC
B10 W
SBC E
SBC

MWC
AAC
SBC W
CUSA
MAC W
MAC
MAC E

I wouldn't hang my hat on Massey ratings.

CUSA is King 03-lmfao

Then prove me wrong.
(01-05-2024 12:24 PM)GreenBison Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-05-2024 11:27 AM)Johns1124 Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-05-2024 10:29 AM)GreenBison Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-24-2023 07:40 PM)forphase1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-24-2023 06:42 PM)Johns1124 Wrote: [ -> ]https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/sunbelt/acc.shtml

2023: AAC 6 - 2 SBC
2022: AAC 5 - 0 SBC

CUSA
https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/confusa/sunbelt.shtml

2023: SBC 3 CUSA 2
2022: SBC 6 CUSA 12

Not exactly domination. Not sure where you get the best G5 conference. Stats show something different.

https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/sunbelt/mac.shtml

2023 SBC: 4 MAC 3
2022 SBC: 4 MAC 2

Huff went 3-5 with a hurt QB. Fancher was hurt at NCSU and was not right from App St, until he returned at Ark St.

Do you think being "Over his head" because his #1 QB was hurt? We basically had our 4th string QB in the game for Ga. State and South Alabama. The only thing was Huffs was not thinking long-term in his recruitment. I think he has learned the hard way. The only person who was over his head was Cole and his QB play.

Sagarin and most rating places have the SBC, AAC and MWC pretty much neck to neck. Some we are slightly ahead. Some we are slightly behind.

As to Huff, the fact that Fancher was the #1 QB is evidence enough that he's over his head. Fancher sucks, and the fact that Fancher was the best qb Huff was able to put on the field in year 3 is evidence enough. Cole is not the answer either IMO, though I'm glad he got a chance to play. Huff is a bad coach, plain and simple. Like Dan he accomplished some amazing things (Notre Dame primarily, beat a terrible VT this year), but overall body of work is poor. As a program we are in a worse stage now than when Doc was fired, and that's saying something. Keeping Huff for 2024 only puts off the inevitable rebuild another year.

The Results are IN!!!! SBC Baby! AACk can suck it!

https://masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings?c=1

SEC W
B10 E
SEC
P12 N
SEC E
P12
B12
B10
P12 S
ACC
B10 W
SBC E
SBC

MWC
AAC
SBC W
CUSA
MAC W
MAC
MAC E

I wouldn't hang my hat on Massey ratings.

CUSA is King 03-lmfao

Then prove me wrong.

No, they are not. But they did end up with NY6, amazingly. The way it turned out, hopefully; the smoke and mirrors is out there and they won't get it again.
(01-05-2024 11:27 AM)Johns1124 Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-05-2024 10:29 AM)GreenBison Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-24-2023 07:40 PM)forphase1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-24-2023 06:42 PM)Johns1124 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-24-2023 01:38 PM)forphase1 Wrote: [ -> ]The committee has no interest in Liberty. Or in ANY G5 really. Each year they will look at whoever the top G5 schools are to pick the access spot but that's it. Do you think the committee cares at all about Western Michigan (2016) or Memphis (2019) this year? Of course not as they weren't in the running this year. Liberty is only a story because of their record this year, not because anyone really cares about them nationally.

As to Sunbelt versus other conferences by most unbiased measures, the SBC East was the top G5 division this year, with the SBC West being slightly behind. Overall the SBC is right there with the MWC and AAC, ahead of them in some places, slightly behind on others. You may feel the SBC is behind the other two, but the industry doesn't really agree.

As to Huff, he went 3-5 against the SBC, a group you say is behind the AAC and MWC. How is that NOT being over his head? Sure, he has some decent wins, but that's always followed up by stupid, inexcusable losses. He's over his head, should have already been sacked, and next year is going to be pathetic.

https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/sunbelt/acc.shtml

2023: AAC 6 - 2 SBC
2022: AAC 5 - 0 SBC

CUSA
https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/confusa/sunbelt.shtml

2023: SBC 3 CUSA 2
2022: SBC 6 CUSA 12

Not exactly domination. Not sure where you get the best G5 conference. Stats show something different.

https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/sunbelt/mac.shtml

2023 SBC: 4 MAC 3
2022 SBC: 4 MAC 2

Huff went 3-5 with a hurt QB. Fancher was hurt at NCSU and was not right from App St, until he returned at Ark St.

Do you think being "Over his head" because his #1 QB was hurt? We basically had our 4th string QB in the game for Ga. State and South Alabama. The only thing was Huffs was not thinking long-term in his recruitment. I think he has learned the hard way. The only person who was over his head was Cole and his QB play.

Sagarin and most rating places have the SBC, AAC and MWC pretty much neck to neck. Some we are slightly ahead. Some we are slightly behind.

As to Huff, the fact that Fancher was the #1 QB is evidence enough that he's over his head. Fancher sucks, and the fact that Fancher was the best qb Huff was able to put on the field in year 3 is evidence enough. Cole is not the answer either IMO, though I'm glad he got a chance to play. Huff is a bad coach, plain and simple. Like Dan he accomplished some amazing things (Notre Dame primarily, beat a terrible VT this year), but overall body of work is poor. As a program we are in a worse stage now than when Doc was fired, and that's saying something. Keeping Huff for 2024 only puts off the inevitable rebuild another year.

The Results are IN!!!! SBC Baby! AACk can suck it!

https://masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings?c=1

SEC W
B10 E
SEC
P12 N
SEC E
P12
B12
B10
P12 S
ACC
B10 W
SBC E
SBC

MWC
AAC
SBC W
CUSA
MAC W
MAC
MAC E

I wouldn't hang my hat on Massey ratings.

Of course not, because it doesn't back your silly stance on CUSA>SBC. But you clearly know more than Massey or Sagarin. What's the link for your conference ratings that everyone references and trusts? I must have misplaced that bookmark.....
(01-05-2024 11:51 PM)forphase1 Wrote: [ -> ]Of course not, because it doesn't back your silly stance on CUSA>SBC. But you clearly know more than Massey or Sagarin. What's the link for your conference ratings that everyone references and trusts? I must have misplaced that bookmark.....

I don't recall saying that. Maybe you should brush up on your reading comprehension skills. What I said is we should have waited and not jumped to the first slump buster available. See what develops with re-alignment.
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