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5-0 = Super cool

National exposure growing.

We're easily a top 20 team in the first quarter.

Fisher and Pounds current & future stars.

Lawton best pass blocking RB in JMU history

Please no Black runs on 4th-1.

Zach attack

Unlike prior years, we're a bad 3rd quarter team.

Entrance lines have unexpectedly popped up.

Run defense and pass defense seem to be polar opposites.

Worst pass performance since Mickey game 1.
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2nd worst pass performance since Mickey - second half of last Saturday.

Carpenter - 'Nough said

Likely the least WR talent since Mickey era.

2-3 more consecutive wins from Top 25.

7 = most talented and consistent down hill runner.

Cig was as frustrated as anyone following the last game.

Cig best motivator in JMU football history.

Like that Cig is now closing interviews with "Go Dukes".

Fisher is always the first one on the field.

Punter is a stud who utilizes two different types of kicks based on field position.

That's all folks!
I am looking forward to seeing Pounds, but I really like Ponds.

Likely the least WR talent since Mickey era. - not sure I agree, qb1 may have something to do with this.
(10-02-2023 02:17 PM)PGJMU Wrote: [ -> ]I am looking forward to seeing Pounds, but I really like Ponds.

Likely the least WR talent since Mickey era. - not sure I agree, qb1 may have something to do with this.

I don't think it's the worst group of WR's.

i think it's just missing something we've always had. The inside speedster....Rashard Davis > Polk > Thornton.

this year's was supposed to be Sproles, but he's disappeared the last 3 weeks.

Brown, Sarratt, Hudson. I think that's a decent group.
Need to find a way to get Sproles going.
(10-02-2023 02:31 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-02-2023 02:17 PM)PGJMU Wrote: [ -> ]I am looking forward to seeing Pounds, but I really like Ponds.

Likely the least WR talent since Mickey era. - not sure I agree, qb1 may have something to do with this.

I don't think it's the worst group of WR's.

i think it's just missing something we've always had. The inside speedster....Rashard Davis > Polk > Thornton.

this year's was supposed to be Sproles, but he's disappeared the last 3 weeks.

Brown, Sarratt, Hudson. I think that's a decent group.
Need to find a way to get Sproles going.

We don't the #1 stud we've seemed to have since Withers.

We've had some top receivers...

2022 - Thornton & company last year.
2021 - Wells & Thorton
2020 - Wells & Thorton
2019 - Polk and Stapleton
2018 - Stapleton
2017 - All & Stapleton


Cig even acknowledged a few weeks ago we don't have the same fire power at WR as we've had.
Reggie Brown is damned good
(10-02-2023 04:24 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote: [ -> ]Reggie Brown is damned good

Brown dropped quite a few big ones on Saturday if I recall correctly
(10-02-2023 02:31 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-02-2023 02:17 PM)PGJMU Wrote: [ -> ]I am looking forward to seeing Pounds, but I really like Ponds.

Likely the least WR talent since Mickey era. - not sure I agree, qb1 may have something to do with this.

I don't think it's the worst group of WR's.

i think it's just missing something we've always had. The inside speedster....Rashard Davis > Polk > Thornton.

this year's was supposed to be Sproles, but he's disappeared the last 3 weeks.

Brown, Sarratt, Hudson. I think that's a decent group.
Need to find a way to get Sproles going.
They don’t seem to get enough separation, or at least often enough. Definitely thought Sproles and even Dollison would play bigger roles. Dollison has 1 catch…for 54 yards and a TD and haven’t seen him since. At least Sproles stays involved out there and had a great downfield block on Horton’s first TD Saturday.
I think as the year goes on we are seeing how good Thornton really was.

That dude was wide open ALL the time
On the point of Lawton blocking, my god that guy is powerful. How long do we have him?
Listening to Cignetti's presser today it really seems like he is frustrated with McCloud and his execution. Maybe reading too much into it but he was really singling him out. Even said at the end we have 85 guys really flying around on the team but maybe not 2-3 on offense
(10-02-2023 05:26 PM)Xeonon Wrote: [ -> ]On the point of Lawton blocking, my god that guy is powerful. How long do we have him?
Just this season, he’s already played 4 seasons at Stony Brook.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/pl...son-lawton
(10-02-2023 06:00 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote: [ -> ]Listening to Cignetti's presser today it really seems like he is frustrated with McCloud and his execution. Maybe reading too much into it but he was really singling him out. Even said at the end we have 85 guys really flying around on the team but maybe not 2-3 on offense
Coaches often have be part time psychologists, one player needs a pat on the back while another needs a kick back there, hopefully he’s pushing the right buttons to elevate his game more. At the start of the last game McCloud stepped up and made some runs that were nice and probably because coach got on him, knowing he must run to make the defense respect that. Also, not long after the game is over they break down game tape and see lots they need to address that we don’t see while the game is unfolding.
Talking about JMU’s woeful 3rd down conversions vs USA…Someone brought it up on the other thread and I did some digging.

For the year, JMU is 128th out of 133 for 3rd down conversions. I knew they were struggling. But didn’t realize it was that bad.
28%

Hanson is getting a leg workout with the 15th most punts in the nation


This all speaks to getting better. There is no way JMU finishes 128th by the end of the year.
Embrace the Uncertainty

Two years ago, we strolled into Bridgeforth and tuned into FloSports to either meet expectations or fail to meet them all with the expectation of a national championship or bust. It was impossible to exceed expectations because there was no where to go but down. We clamored for excitement and peer competition, we have it now.

There is uncertainty every week, we should embrace it. That means when we start 5-0, it is an accomplishment to be celebrated. Many on the weekly game threads state, "I am nervous about this one...", that's a good thing! When we win, it means something, because of the uncertainty. Enjoy it and embrace it.
(10-03-2023 09:54 AM)CarRamrod Wrote: [ -> ]Embrace the Uncertainty

Two years ago, we strolled into Bridgeforth and tuned into FloSports to either meet expectations or fail to meet them all with the expectation of a national championship or bust. It was impossible to exceed expectations because there was no where to go but down. We clamored for excitement and peer competition, we have it now.

There is uncertainty every week, we should embrace it. That means when we start 5-0, it is an accomplishment to be celebrated. Many on the weekly game threads state, "I am nervous about this one...", that's a good thing! When we win, it means something, because of the uncertainty. Enjoy it and embrace it.

^^^^This 10000%^^^^^ At the FBS game it is a battle week to week and wins are hard to get.
(10-03-2023 09:54 AM)CarRamrod Wrote: [ -> ]Embrace the Uncertainty

Two years ago, we strolled into Bridgeforth and tuned into FloSports to either meet expectations or fail to meet them all with the expectation of a national championship or bust. It was impossible to exceed expectations because there was no where to go but down. We clamored for excitement and peer competition, we have it now.

There is uncertainty every week, we should embrace it. That means when we start 5-0, it is an accomplishment to be celebrated. Many on the weekly game threads state, "I am nervous about this one...", that's a good thing! When we win, it means something, because of the uncertainty. Enjoy it and embrace it.

^

Exactly. That’s how I see it too. This is the new reality. Expecting and then being disappointed if JMU doesn’t blowout opponents is silly. Every week will be a battle, and each win, by whatever margin, should be celebrated.

This doesn’t mean fans can’t critique the team’s play (win or lose), however, keeping things in proper perspective may take some time for some JMU fans who think comfortable wins should be tucked away by halftime, or the third period at the latest.
(10-03-2023 10:10 AM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-03-2023 09:54 AM)CarRamrod Wrote: [ -> ]Embrace the Uncertainty

Two years ago, we strolled into Bridgeforth and tuned into FloSports to either meet expectations or fail to meet them all with the expectation of a national championship or bust. It was impossible to exceed expectations because there was no where to go but down. We clamored for excitement and peer competition, we have it now.

There is uncertainty every week, we should embrace it. That means when we start 5-0, it is an accomplishment to be celebrated. Many on the weekly game threads state, "I am nervous about this one...", that's a good thing! When we win, it means something, because of the uncertainty. Enjoy it and embrace it.

^

Exactly. That’s how I see it too. This is the new reality. Expecting and then being disappointed if JMU doesn’t blowout opponents is silly. Every week will be a battle, and each win, by whatever margin, should be celebrated.

This doesn’t mean fans can’t critique the team’s play (win or lose), however, keeping things in proper perspective may take some time for some JMU fans who think comfortable wins should be tucked away by halftime, or the third period at the latest.

I dont see it as fans expecting to blow out every team. After watching the games and seeing that JMU is clearly the better team but isnt putting them away due to our own errors, mental mistakes, play calling, or any other aspect that is in JMU's control is what is making people frustrated with the margin of victories so far this year

I dont think anyone would be complaining if we beat a middle of the road P5 team by 1 point regardless of how we played
(10-03-2023 10:10 AM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-03-2023 09:54 AM)CarRamrod Wrote: [ -> ]Embrace the Uncertainty

Two years ago, we strolled into Bridgeforth and tuned into FloSports to either meet expectations or fail to meet them all with the expectation of a national championship or bust. It was impossible to exceed expectations because there was no where to go but down. We clamored for excitement and peer competition, we have it now.

There is uncertainty every week, we should embrace it. That means when we start 5-0, it is an accomplishment to be celebrated. Many on the weekly game threads state, "I am nervous about this one...", that's a good thing! When we win, it means something, because of the uncertainty. Enjoy it and embrace it.

^

Exactly. That’s how I see it too. This is the new reality. Expecting and then being disappointed if JMU doesn’t blowout opponents is silly. Every week will be a battle, and each win, by whatever margin, should be celebrated.

This doesn’t mean fans can’t critique the team’s play (win or lose), however, keeping things in proper perspective may take some time for some JMU fans who think comfortable wins should be tucked away by halftime, or the third period at the latest.
There are Manic/Depressive tendencies with some of our fans. Cig always says "not too high, not too low". Sound advice.
(10-03-2023 11:10 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-03-2023 10:10 AM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-03-2023 09:54 AM)CarRamrod Wrote: [ -> ]Embrace the Uncertainty

Two years ago, we strolled into Bridgeforth and tuned into FloSports to either meet expectations or fail to meet them all with the expectation of a national championship or bust. It was impossible to exceed expectations because there was no where to go but down. We clamored for excitement and peer competition, we have it now.

There is uncertainty every week, we should embrace it. That means when we start 5-0, it is an accomplishment to be celebrated. Many on the weekly game threads state, "I am nervous about this one...", that's a good thing! When we win, it means something, because of the uncertainty. Enjoy it and embrace it.

^

Exactly. That’s how I see it too. This is the new reality. Expecting and then being disappointed if JMU doesn’t blowout opponents is silly. Every week will be a battle, and each win, by whatever margin, should be celebrated.

This doesn’t mean fans can’t critique the team’s play (win or lose), however, keeping things in proper perspective may take some time for some JMU fans who think comfortable wins should be tucked away by halftime, or the third period at the latest.

I dont see it as fans expecting to blow out every team. After watching the games and seeing that JMU is clearly the better team but isnt putting them away due to our own errors, mental mistakes, play calling, or any other aspect that is in JMU's control is what is making people frustrated with the margin of victories so far this year

I dont think anyone would be complaining if we beat a middle of the road P5 team by 1 point regardless of how we played

I think our fans sometimes think we are always clearly better and in some cases that is true, but clearly better teams lose to inferior teams all the time. So far this year I would say we were clearly better than Bucknell, better than USU and UVA, a little bit better than USA, and pretty even with Troy.

USU and UVA were on the road and there were other thinks such as emotion and altitude that certainly were things we were playing against. Troy on the road was a great win no matter the score and USA is a very good team with 19 starters back from a 10-3 team whose losses were UCLA, Troy, and WKU.

So getting through those games 5-0 is fantastic no matter how it was done. That said there is massive room for improvement and I think we have seen some over the lasts few weeks. It is pretty clear that Cig does not completely trust JM and therefore unless he feels like we are in a situation where we need to make something happen we are going to play very conservatively with the lead in the second half.
(10-03-2023 11:10 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-03-2023 10:10 AM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-03-2023 09:54 AM)CarRamrod Wrote: [ -> ]Embrace the Uncertainty

Two years ago, we strolled into Bridgeforth and tuned into FloSports to either meet expectations or fail to meet them all with the expectation of a national championship or bust. It was impossible to exceed expectations because there was no where to go but down. We clamored for excitement and peer competition, we have it now.

There is uncertainty every week, we should embrace it. That means when we start 5-0, it is an accomplishment to be celebrated. Many on the weekly game threads state, "I am nervous about this one...", that's a good thing! When we win, it means something, because of the uncertainty. Enjoy it and embrace it.

^

Exactly. That’s how I see it too. This is the new reality. Expecting and then being disappointed if JMU doesn’t blowout opponents is silly. Every week will be a battle, and each win, by whatever margin, should be celebrated.

This doesn’t mean fans can’t critique the team’s play (win or lose), however, keeping things in proper perspective may take some time for some JMU fans who think comfortable wins should be tucked away by halftime, or the third period at the latest.

I dont see it as fans expecting to blow out every team. After watching the games and seeing that JMU is clearly the better team but isnt putting them away due to our own errors, mental mistakes, play calling, or any other aspect that is in JMU's control is what is making people frustrated with the margin of victories so far this year

I dont think anyone would be complaining if we beat a middle of the road P5 team by 1 point regardless of how we played

This exactly. In three of our four FBS wins we've taken a big lead and then ended up winning by one score. It's not that people are never gonna be satisfied if we don't blow out our opponents, it's that people are gonna be concerned when the game unfolds that way. That concern wasn't there, or at least not as widespread, after the Troy game. It wouldn't have been there after Utah State or South Alabama if we played a tight back and forth game all 60 minutes and came out ahead.

Nobody wants to see us play Mickey Ball where we get a lead then think we can run the clock for 45 minutes. On the bright side though, I don't think Cig is as stubborn in refusing to learn from those mistakes as Mickey was. We've seen him go too far the other direction against NDSU and Georgia Southern.

A few go way too far, sure. Starting a fire Cig thread was completely laughable and 95% of posters recognized that. For the ones that didn't, always gotta keep in mind that maybe alcohol is involved too 03-lol There is a legit concern there though, and hopefully Cig and staff can improve on it. Especially by next year when we're eligible for the CFP and margin of victory could potentially cost us the biggest exposure and one of the biggest accomplishments in JMU sports history. Of course we don't need to blow out every opponent and we aren't going to, but when we go up by three scores early that should usually end in a blow out.
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