Tyrique Tucker has been getting a lot of time and has looked pretty good.
Well, he’s atop the Troy depth chart at DT.
Kromah is listed as first sting DE, with Green on 2nd string.
Maybe Cig’s senior message was directed at Green some.
Don’t think he’s playing terribly but moving Tucker in to the starting unit and Kromah outside definitely makes us bigger.
Green will get his share of snaps I’m sure.
Tuckers emergence is crucial for the DLine with Okonjis injury.
Also, as I mentioned in the game thread, am I the only one who noticed Carpenter lined up very wide at DE at the end of the game? He shed his blocker easily and put major pressure on Colandrea.
I would like to see some more young players get PT, but they likely aren’t good enough yet if they didn’t see the field on a hot muggy day against UVA.
The boo hoos weren’t a good litmus test as their offensive line is offensive. It is easily the weakest position Group on their team and JMU was able to take advantage of it.
We’ll need a fortunate season to avoid more injuries to the D-line that isn’t deep enough and is already without Okonji. I guess Funk could be moved back there from TE if another guy goes down. This is only year 2 of the FBS transition and athletic D-linemen just may be in shortest supply on the recruiting trail. This is where JMU may need to develop and bulk up Freshmen recruits a couple of years before they can contribute vs landing studs from the portal that are few and far between.
As far as Carpenter goes, I catch myself watching him and missing some play results because he is so active regardless of where he lines up. His short burst quickness and hand combat skills are fun to watch. Wish we had 3 more of him on the line.
Do we know for certain that Okonji is done for the season?
Carpenter a walk-on. I think this was what I heard when watching the broadcast.
If so, that is a steal!
(09-12-2023 09:20 PM)JMU_Rocks! Wrote: [ -> ]Carpenter a walk-on. I think this was what I heard when watching the broadcast.
If so, that is a steal!
Years old news that he’s a walkon- its his 4th season starting.
UVA's coach called Carpenter "sneaky stout" - I think that's a great description. He's a guy that looks like - eh, he'll play ok. But his motor is amazing and he plays with the heart of a champion. I love guys like that at any level, and I'm so glad he's ours.
Especially in CFB, I don't think size is as important as athleticism and strength. I think this is where JMU excels on defense and a model for the non-P5 programs. Fingers crossed we can keep producing on both sides of the ball in the trenches.
(09-13-2023 02:27 AM)JMU2K_DukeDawg Wrote: [ -> ]UVA's coach called Carpenter "sneaky stout" - I think that's a great description. He's a guy that looks like - eh, he'll play ok. But his motor is amazing and he plays with the heart of a champion. I love guys like that at any level, and I'm so glad he's ours.
Especially in CFB, I don't think size is as important as athleticism and strength. I think this is where JMU excels on defense and a model for the non-P5 programs. Fingers crossed we can keep producing on both sides of the ball in the trenches.
Carpenter is an amazing athlete. I’d love to know what he bench presses because my guess he’s much more powerful than a regular man his size.
At his listed 6’2” 282# he’s smallish for an interior player on the DL, but he’s quick, utilizes great leverage that typically beats his OL opponent, and as has been mentioned, has a motor that never stops.
He’s not sneaking up on any opponent this year though…he was a 2nd team all SBC player last year, 1st team all VASID, and had 52 solo tackles, 11.5 for loss, 3 pass breakups and 5 1/2 sacks as a nose tackle. Who does that playing just 11 games on the interior DL? Those are crazy good stats.
No doubt Carpenter is living up to his preseason kudos…Outland and Nagurski Watch Lists, preseason 1st team all SBC and Hero Sports G5 2nd team All American.
And the best part, he’s just a RS Junior!
(09-12-2023 09:15 PM)olddawg Wrote: [ -> ]Do we know for certain that Okonji is done for the season?
An FCS walk on nonetheless, at the time deemed unworthy of even a partial scholarship.
I said it last week but it's still a major concern. We only have 6 different players listed for an 8 man 2 deep. Absolutely cannot afford another injury
(09-13-2023 06:48 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote: [ -> ]I said it last week but it's still a major concern. We only have 6 different players listed for an 8 man 2 deep. Absolutely cannot afford another injury
I know Robell has been dressing and traveling, so it’s odd he hasn’t gotten into a game yet even on special teams. An injury will throw him into the mix and I’m certain Jordan Funk would probably go back to DE from the crowded TE position.
(09-13-2023 07:47 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2023 06:48 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote: [ -> ]I said it last week but it's still a major concern. We only have 6 different players listed for an 8 man 2 deep. Absolutely cannot afford another injury
I know Robell has been dressing and traveling, so it’s odd he hasn’t gotten into a game yet even on special teams. An injury will throw him into the mix and I’m certain Jordan Funk would probably go back to DE from the crowded TE position.
I was told by a D1 college coach that Robell is going to be an absolute stud and was an underrated recruit partly because he was such a good wrestler that many thought he may end up doing that in college. That said it is really tough for a true Frosh to be successful on the D-line as most HS kids don't have that strength right away.
(09-13-2023 09:00 AM)jmu98 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2023 07:47 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2023 06:48 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote: [ -> ]I said it last week but it's still a major concern. We only have 6 different players listed for an 8 man 2 deep. Absolutely cannot afford another injury
I know Robell has been dressing and traveling, so it’s odd he hasn’t gotten into a game yet even on special teams. An injury will throw him into the mix and I’m certain Jordan Funk would probably go back to DE from the crowded TE position.
I was told by a D1 college coach that Robell is going to be an absolute stud and was an underrated recruit partly because he was such a good wrestler that many thought he may end up doing that in college. That said it is really tough for a true Frosh to be successful on the D-line as most HS kids don't have that strength right away.
I was surprised to see him on the sidelines Saturday as usually only those on the 2-deep and special teams unit are on the travel squad. So they must think they’re thin along the d-line and would pull the planned redshirt in case of emergency.
Just speculation, but I’d venture to guess Robell is just as strong or stronger than Tucker who is a redshirt freshman. I’ll use my previous example of a guy that was severely undersized for an interior d-lineman yet dominated from day 1 on campus, going from MAC Freshman of Year, MAC Defensive POY as a true freshman, and 4-time All MAC First Team to the NFL.
(08-30-2022 05:16 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote: [ -> ]Size is great, but you can overcome it with the motor and/or heart. I’ve used this example before of Roosevelt Nix, an undersized guy the big schools passed on because he was 5’11” 237 in high school. He committed to Kent State and had a monster senior year, then they all came back in on him but he stayed loyal to the school that was on him first and most. How’d he do? Well as a “tweener” (5’11” 245-260lbs.) he just terrorized much larger o-linemen on the way to being the conference MAC Defensive Player of the Year as a true freshman and continued producing through 4 seasons of 1st team all conference honors. Despite the numerous accolades he couldn’t convince the NFL to look past the size numbers and appreciate a ball player, so he busted his ass some more and came back as a fullback and had a productive career as a FB and key Special Teams player. Bottom line is is players will play and sometimes they’ll make you forget about those reasons they “fell down” to you. It’s the old adage about the size of the fight in a dawg and not the size of the dog.
https://kentstatesports.com/sports/footb...t-nix/5307
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roosevelt_Nix_(fullback)
(09-13-2023 04:24 AM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2023 02:27 AM)JMU2K_DukeDawg Wrote: [ -> ]UVA's coach called Carpenter "sneaky stout" - I think that's a great description. He's a guy that looks like - eh, he'll play ok. But his motor is amazing and he plays with the heart of a champion. I love guys like that at any level, and I'm so glad he's ours.
Especially in CFB, I don't think size is as important as athleticism and strength. I think this is where JMU excels on defense and a model for the non-P5 programs. Fingers crossed we can keep producing on both sides of the ball in the trenches.
Carpenter is an amazing athlete. I’d love to know what he bench presses because my guess he’s much more powerful than a regular man his size.
At his listed 6’2” 282# he’s smallish for an interior player on the DL, but he’s quick, utilizes great leverage that typically beats his OL opponent, and as has been mentioned, has a motor that never stops.
He’s not sneaking up on any opponent this year though…he was a 2nd team all SBC player last year, 1st team all VASID, and had 52 solo tackles, 11.5 for loss, 3 pass breakups and 5 1/2 sacks as a nose tackle. Who does that playing just 11 games on the interior DL? Those are crazy good stats.
No doubt Carpenter is living up to his preseason kudos…Outland and Nagurski Watch Lists, preseason 1st team all SBC and Hero Sports G5 2nd team All American.
And the best part, he’s just a RS Junior!
Visually he does not come off small in games, at least to me.
(09-13-2023 04:24 AM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2023 02:27 AM)JMU2K_DukeDawg Wrote: [ -> ]UVA's coach called Carpenter "sneaky stout" - I think that's a great description. He's a guy that looks like - eh, he'll play ok. But his motor is amazing and he plays with the heart of a champion. I love guys like that at any level, and I'm so glad he's ours.
Especially in CFB, I don't think size is as important as athleticism and strength. I think this is where JMU excels on defense and a model for the non-P5 programs. Fingers crossed we can keep producing on both sides of the ball in the trenches.
Carpenter is an amazing athlete. I’d love to know what he bench presses because my guess he’s much more powerful than a regular man his size.
At his listed 6’2” 282# he’s smallish for an interior player on the DL, but he’s quick, utilizes great leverage that typically beats his OL opponent, and as has been mentioned, has a motor that never stops.
He’s not sneaking up on any opponent this year though…he was a 2nd team all SBC player last year, 1st team all VASID, and had 52 solo tackles, 11.5 for loss, 3 pass breakups and 5 1/2 sacks as a nose tackle. Who does that playing just 11 games on the interior DL? Those are crazy good stats.
No doubt Carpenter is living up to his preseason kudos…Outland and Nagurski Watch Lists, preseason 1st team all SBC and Hero Sports G5 2nd team All American.
And the best part, he’s just a RS Junior!
Yep. Thanks to the extra Covid season, is a 5th yr Jr. Could be a 5th year starter next year. His 2nd starting season, 2021, I believe had a season ending injury about midway through.
Haines and Kuntz are really bringing out the wrinkles on the dline with the depth issues.
Guys are lining up all over the place.
Carpenter has been at right and left end.
Kromah, as expected, has played both inside and outside.
Green has dropped back into a 3rd LB role often it seems.
Ends are switching sides constantly.
And I think, not sure, would have to see a replay, but I thought I saw one play where carpenter was at end and Kamara was inside.
Tucker continues to emerge. We have an excellent line already, but we are building toward a great one like last years again.
Really good pass rush last night with Troy electing to become one-dimensional as their game plan. I haven’t heard Sumerall’s postgame presser, but earlier this week he said his o-line isn’t as good as last year and they have concerns there. But to completely abandon the running game was very surprising.
Troy threw 46 times (plus another 6 pass plays that resulted in sacks). and ran 13 times. 80% tilted to passing.
Haines mixed things up well with various blitzes that kept Troy guessing who to block.
I didn’t catch many substitutions on the D-line. It felt like those guys were out there non-stop. Did they only go with 5 or 6 in the rotation?
(09-17-2023 09:52 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote: [ -> ]Really good pass rush last night with Troy electing to become one-dimensional as their game plan. I haven’t heard Sumerall’s postgame presser, but earlier this week he said his o-line isn’t as good as last year and they have concerns there. But to completely abandon the running game was very surprising.
Troy threw 46 times (plus another 6 pass plays that resulted in sacks). and ran 13 times. 80% tilted to passing.
Haines mixed things up well with various blitzes that kept Troy guessing who to block.
I didn’t catch many substitutions on the D-line. It felt like those guys were out there non-stop. Did they only go with 5 or 6 in the rotation?
Troy had -12 yards on 19 attempts. They simply tried to take what we were giving them. On the ground that was nothing. Cig's plan to make Troy one dimensional worked pretty well.
-0.6 yards per attempt. Rushing defense likely stays #1 in FBS as long as that continues, those are ridiculous numbers.
(09-17-2023 10:06 AM)JMURocks Wrote: [ -> ] (09-17-2023 09:52 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote: [ -> ]Really good pass rush last night with Troy electing to become one-dimensional as their game plan. I haven’t heard Sumerall’s postgame presser, but earlier this week he said his o-line isn’t as good as last year and they have concerns there. But to completely abandon the running game was very surprising.
Troy threw 46 times (plus another 6 pass plays that resulted in sacks). and ran 13 times. 80% tilted to passing.
Haines mixed things up well with various blitzes that kept Troy guessing who to block.
I didn’t catch many substitutions on the D-line. It felt like those guys were out there non-stop. Did they only go with 5 or 6 in the rotation?
Troy had -12 yards on 19 attempts. They simply tried to take what we were giving them. On the ground that was nothing.
-0.6 yards per attempt. Rushing defense likely stays #1 in FBS as long as that continues, those are ridiculous numbers.
The actual rushing numbers for their RB’s was actually just under 2 yards a carry as they count sack yards in college. Either way extremely impressive considering I kept thinking that at some point they would pop a good run just because they had been so one dimensional that it would just be odds that one time we would get up field on a rush and the RB would sneak through. I think their RB who was averaging over 160 yards a game had maybe one run of 10 yards and at least 2-3 negative yardage runs.
Had a chance to listen to Sumerall’s postgame press conference and he admitted that their RB Vidal is probably their best player and they should have used him more than 11 times, but he also said he gave his Offensive Coordinator the game plan to “air it out” because of JMU’s run defense.
Their QB was fair, not great and Cig won the bet that the D would get enough sacks and pressure to win the game.
Of all the teams in the Sun Belt to throw 46 passes and run 13 times, I would have guessed Troy was the least likely to do that.
(09-17-2023 08:38 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote: [ -> ]Had a chance to listen to Sumerall’s postgame press conference and he admitted that their RB Vidal is probably their best player and they should have used him more than 11 times, but he also said he gave his Offensive Coordinator the game plan to “air it out” because of JMU’s run defense.
Their QB was fair, not great and Cig won the bet that the D would get enough sacks and pressure to win the game.
Of all the teams in the Sun Belt to throw 46 passes and run 13 times, I would have guessed Troy was the least likely to do that.
So, the defending champs recognized they weren't good enough to run on our D. That's some serious respect.