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for all the guys who transferred out last year, how many will see significant playing time this year with their new teams. I was looking to see Jadon Thompson for UL, but I don't know that he got on the field last night.

(09-01-2023 10:50 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote: [ -> ]for all the guys who transferred out last year, how many will see significant playing time this year with their new teams. I was looking to see Jadon Thompson for UL, but I don't know that he got on the field last night.

Yeah, I was keeping an eye out too and didn't see him once. That one always seemed odd to me, given that people below him on the depth chart transfered to Wisconsin, and he is from Chicago, you would've figured he would head there too.

I work with an Arkansas guy who says that Jaheim Thomas will likely be a starter.

(09-01-2023 10:50 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote: [ -> ]for all the guys who transferred out last year, how many will see significant playing time this year with their new teams. I was looking to see Jadon Thompson for UL, but I don't know that he got on the field last night.

Thompson was listed as questionable on their injury report this week.

Is George Udo who transferred in from BYU still with us; I don’t see him on our depth chart?

(09-02-2023 08:05 AM)cincybb51 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-01-2023 10:50 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote: [ -> ]for all the guys who transferred out last year, how many will see significant playing time this year with their new teams. I was looking to see Jadon Thompson for UL, but I don't know that he got on the field last night.

Thompson was listed as questionable on their injury report this week.

Is George Udo who transferred in from BYU still with us; I don’t see him on our depth chart?

That surprised me some.

does anyone know if basketball transfers Reynolds and Azizz Bondaoga have been cleared to play this season? if not yet, when?

(09-06-2023 08:29 PM)bearcat54 Wrote: [ -> ]does anyone know if basketball transfers Reynolds and Azizz Bondaoga have been cleared to play this season? if not yet, when?

Decision will be in Oct per Chad’s podcast.

They purposely did not apply yet because more information may come out from some of the other FB cases etc that they can use in our cases.
UC has it all ready.
And I think NCAA was not even gonna start reviewing them until October

(09-06-2023 10:00 PM)ZCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2023 08:29 PM)bearcat54 Wrote: [ -> ]does anyone know if basketball transfers Reynolds and Azizz Bondaoga have been cleared to play this season? if not yet, when?

Decision will be in Oct per Chad’s podcast.

They purposely did not apply yet because more information may come out from some of the other FB cases etc that they can use in our cases.
UC has it all ready.
And I think NCAA was not even gonna start reviewing them until October

I think we'll all be watching that situation closely. With Azizz especially, as I see him as a game changer for this year's team. If he's eligible, the front line suddenly has more depth and defensive prowess and he seems the perfect complement to Vik to take the Bearcats to the next level.

at long last the ncaa is finally doing something right. i'm just happy they decided to crack down the two time transfers well after hoops season ended instead of i dunno at the beginning of the '22 season or before a flurry enter for a second time. what does the ncaa actually do?

(09-07-2023 08:57 AM)OKIcat Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2023 10:00 PM)ZCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2023 08:29 PM)bearcat54 Wrote: [ -> ]does anyone know if basketball transfers Reynolds and Azizz Bondaoga have been cleared to play this season? if not yet, when?

Decision will be in Oct per Chad’s podcast.

They purposely did not apply yet because more information may come out from some of the other FB cases etc that they can use in our cases.
UC has it all ready.
And I think NCAA was not even gonna start reviewing them until October

I think we'll all be watching that situation closely. With Azizz especially, as I see him as a game changer for this year's team. If he's eligible, the front line suddenly has more depth and defensive prowess and he seems the perfect complement to Vik to take the Bearcats to the next level.

In my mind, success this season hinges upon Aziz and Reynolds becoming eligible. If neither are cleared, it'll be a disaster. If one is cleared, I think this team will be able to scrap their way into a bubble spot/NIT bid. If both are cleared, this is a NCAA Tournament team.

(09-07-2023 10:07 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2023 08:57 AM)OKIcat Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2023 10:00 PM)ZCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2023 08:29 PM)bearcat54 Wrote: [ -> ]does anyone know if basketball transfers Reynolds and Azizz Bondaoga have been cleared to play this season? if not yet, when?

Decision will be in Oct per Chad’s podcast.

They purposely did not apply yet because more information may come out from some of the other FB cases etc that they can use in our cases.
UC has it all ready.
And I think NCAA was not even gonna start reviewing them until October

I think we'll all be watching that situation closely. With Azizz especially, as I see him as a game changer for this year's team. If he's eligible, the front line suddenly has more depth and defensive prowess and he seems the perfect complement to Vik to take the Bearcats to the next level.

In my mind, success this season hinges upon Aziz and Reynolds becoming eligible. If neither are cleared, it'll be a disaster. If one is cleared, I think this team will be able to scrap their way into a bubble spot/NIT bid. If both are cleared, this is a NCAA Tournament team.

This is a really negative outlook. They jumped 50 spots kenpom last year. Vik has the potential to be an all conference starting center. They'll have a much smaller margin for error if neither are eligible but with ody's development and significantly more wing depth they'll have some flexibility to go small/big. Ceiling is absolutely higher with one or both of those guys (I think one would be fine) and margin for error is lower but I don't see an impending disaster. I think they'll be better then last year. Better than last year is tournament bubble.

(09-07-2023 11:14 AM)bearcatmark Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2023 10:07 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ]In my mind, success this season hinges upon Aziz and Reynolds becoming eligible. If neither are cleared, it'll be a disaster. If one is cleared, I think this team will be able to scrap their way into a bubble spot/NIT bid. If both are cleared, this is a NCAA Tournament team.

This is a really negative outlook. They jumped 50 spots kenpom last year. Vik has the potential to be an all conference starting center. They'll have a much smaller margin for error if neither are eligible but with ody's development and significantly more wing depth they'll have some flexibility to go small/big. Ceiling is absolutely higher with one or both of those guys (I think one would be fine) and margin for error is lower but I don't see an impending disaster. I think they'll be better then last year. Better than last year is tournament bubble.

Without seeing how any of the freshmen or transfers live in UC uniforms, I don't think I'm that off-base in saying that UC not having their two expected centers would be a "disaster" for the upcoming season.

Now, when I say disaster, I don't mean single-digit total wins. I'm thinking like losing to Xavier, losing to Dayton, maybe a fluke OOC loss, and sub-.500 or finishing 12th-14th in the Big 12. That scenario could play out if your front court depth gets shrunk from 5 to 3. Sure Vik and Ody are solid but when your only depth piece is Sage who, despite having a high ceiling, could very well be out of his element in the Big 12 until he gets another year or two under his belt.

(09-07-2023 01:21 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2023 11:14 AM)bearcatmark Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2023 10:07 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ]In my mind, success this season hinges upon Aziz and Reynolds becoming eligible. If neither are cleared, it'll be a disaster. If one is cleared, I think this team will be able to scrap their way into a bubble spot/NIT bid. If both are cleared, this is a NCAA Tournament team.

This is a really negative outlook. They jumped 50 spots kenpom last year. Vik has the potential to be an all conference starting center. They'll have a much smaller margin for error if neither are eligible but with ody's development and significantly more wing depth they'll have some flexibility to go small/big. Ceiling is absolutely higher with one or both of those guys (I think one would be fine) and margin for error is lower but I don't see an impending disaster. I think they'll be better then last year. Better than last year is tournament bubble.

Without seeing how any of the freshmen or transfers live in UC uniforms, I don't think I'm that off-base in saying that UC not having their two expected centers would be a "disaster" for the upcoming season.

Now, when I say disaster, I don't mean single-digit total wins. I'm thinking like losing to Xavier, losing to Dayton, maybe a fluke OOC loss, and sub-.500 or finishing 12th-14th in the Big 12. That scenario could play out if your front court depth gets shrunk from 5 to 3. Sure Vik and Ody are solid but when your only depth piece is Sage who, despite having a high ceiling, could very well be out of his element in the Big 12 until he gets another year or two under his belt.

I don't suspect you won't see much Sage even if neither of the transfer bigs are viable and if you do it's because Sage has earned it. Vik has already shown he can play center on both ends. He was excellent on defense, and efficient on offense. He's one of UC's best rebounders of the past two decades. I think the idea of impending disaster really undervalues how good Vik is.

My guess is you see very few lineups without at least Vik or Ody on the court...and you see a bunch of lineups with only one of them (playing more of a small ball, athletic wing at the 4) if neither transfer is eligible this year. I think we are too quick to ignore the dramatic progress last season. I think progress is way more likely to continue than regress.

(09-07-2023 02:52 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2023 01:21 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2023 11:14 AM)bearcatmark Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2023 10:07 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ]In my mind, success this season hinges upon Aziz and Reynolds becoming eligible. If neither are cleared, it'll be a disaster. If one is cleared, I think this team will be able to scrap their way into a bubble spot/NIT bid. If both are cleared, this is a NCAA Tournament team.

This is a really negative outlook. They jumped 50 spots kenpom last year. Vik has the potential to be an all conference starting center. They'll have a much smaller margin for error if neither are eligible but with ody's development and significantly more wing depth they'll have some flexibility to go small/big. Ceiling is absolutely higher with one or both of those guys (I think one would be fine) and margin for error is lower but I don't see an impending disaster. I think they'll be better then last year. Better than last year is tournament bubble.

Without seeing how any of the freshmen or transfers live in UC uniforms, I don't think I'm that off-base in saying that UC not having their two expected centers would be a "disaster" for the upcoming season.

Now, when I say disaster, I don't mean single-digit total wins. I'm thinking like losing to Xavier, losing to Dayton, maybe a fluke OOC loss, and sub-.500 or finishing 12th-14th in the Big 12. That scenario could play out if your front court depth gets shrunk from 5 to 3. Sure Vik and Ody are solid but when your only depth piece is Sage who, despite having a high ceiling, could very well be out of his element in the Big 12 until he gets another year or two under his belt.

I don't suspect you won't see much Sage even if neither of the transfer bigs are viable and if you do it's because Sage has earned it. Vik has already shown he can play center on both ends. He was excellent on defense, and efficient on offense. He's one of UC's best rebounders of the past two decades. I think the idea of impending disaster really undervalues how good Vik is.

My guess is you see very few lineups without at least Vik or Ody on the court...and you see a bunch of lineups with only one of them (playing more of a small ball, athletic wing at the 4) if neither transfer is eligible this year. I think we are too quick to ignore the dramatic progress last season. I think progress is way more likely to continue than regress.

i'm a huge Vik fan. it'll be interesting to see how he fares against stepped up competition. Also, and one of the biggest keys to his and the team's success, is if he can stay out of foul trouble. He got a lot of bull calls but he also committed a ton of dumb fouls. he needs to control the one category he can control and gets lucky on the bad officiating front.

(09-07-2023 02:52 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2023 01:21 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2023 11:14 AM)bearcatmark Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2023 10:07 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ]In my mind, success this season hinges upon Aziz and Reynolds becoming eligible. If neither are cleared, it'll be a disaster. If one is cleared, I think this team will be able to scrap their way into a bubble spot/NIT bid. If both are cleared, this is a NCAA Tournament team.

This is a really negative outlook. They jumped 50 spots kenpom last year. Vik has the potential to be an all conference starting center. They'll have a much smaller margin for error if neither are eligible but with ody's development and significantly more wing depth they'll have some flexibility to go small/big. Ceiling is absolutely higher with one or both of those guys (I think one would be fine) and margin for error is lower but I don't see an impending disaster. I think they'll be better then last year. Better than last year is tournament bubble.

Without seeing how any of the freshmen or transfers live in UC uniforms, I don't think I'm that off-base in saying that UC not having their two expected centers would be a "disaster" for the upcoming season.

Now, when I say disaster, I don't mean single-digit total wins. I'm thinking like losing to Xavier, losing to Dayton, maybe a fluke OOC loss, and sub-.500 or finishing 12th-14th in the Big 12. That scenario could play out if your front court depth gets shrunk from 5 to 3. Sure Vik and Ody are solid but when your only depth piece is Sage who, despite having a high ceiling, could very well be out of his element in the Big 12 until he gets another year or two under his belt.

I don't suspect you won't see much Sage even if neither of the transfer bigs are viable and if you do it's because Sage has earned it. Vik has already shown he can play center on both ends. He was excellent on defense, and efficient on offense. He's one of UC's best rebounders of the past two decades. I think the idea of impending disaster really undervalues how good Vik is.

My guess is you see very few lineups without at least Vik or Ody on the court...and you see a bunch of lineups with only one of them (playing more of a small ball, athletic wing at the 4) if neither transfer is eligible this year. I think we are too quick to ignore the dramatic progress last season. I think progress is way more likely to continue than regress.

Vik is a great player and only getting better, there's no doubt about that. But this conversation isn't strictly about Vik. It's the fact that it's difficult for me to imagine a scenario where UC is without 40% of their anticipated front court, players who would probably get over 90% of the minutes at center, and not expect a significant negative impact on the team overall, especially heading into the best basketball conference in the country.

Now, Vik can obviously play center, it's what he's done the last two years but that's been against AAC competition and by all accounts if the coaching staff had thought he was a long-term solution at that position, they wouldn't have gone so hard after two centers in the transfer portal. Again, maybe Sage can play a role should Aziz/Reynolds be unavailable (he's penciled in as a long term solution currently) but I wouldn't bet the house on an underclassman coming in and dominating the Big 12 from the get go.

(09-07-2023 01:21 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2023 11:14 AM)bearcatmark Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2023 10:07 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ]In my mind, success this season hinges upon Aziz and Reynolds becoming eligible. If neither are cleared, it'll be a disaster. If one is cleared, I think this team will be able to scrap their way into a bubble spot/NIT bid. If both are cleared, this is a NCAA Tournament team.

This is a really negative outlook. They jumped 50 spots kenpom last year. Vik has the potential to be an all conference starting center. They'll have a much smaller margin for error if neither are eligible but with ody's development and significantly more wing depth they'll have some flexibility to go small/big. Ceiling is absolutely higher with one or both of those guys (I think one would be fine) and margin for error is lower but I don't see an impending disaster. I think they'll be better then last year. Better than last year is tournament bubble.

Without seeing how any of the freshmen or transfers live in UC uniforms, I don't think I'm that off-base in saying that UC not having their two expected centers would be a "disaster" for the upcoming season.

Now, when I say disaster, I don't mean single-digit total wins. I'm thinking like losing to Xavier, losing to Dayton, maybe a fluke OOC loss, and sub-.500 or finishing 12th-14th in the Big 12. That scenario could play out if your front court depth gets shrunk from 5 to 3. Sure Vik and Ody are solid but when your only depth piece is Sage who, despite having a high ceiling, could very well be out of his element in the Big 12 until he gets another year or two under his belt.

Man, losing to Xavier is just another part of the early winter anymore. It's like every other fact of December: all the leaves are brown, and the sky is grey...

If our former coach taught us anything, it's that losing to Xavier is anything but a disaster.

(09-07-2023 09:48 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2023 01:21 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ]Without seeing how any of the freshmen or transfers live in UC uniforms, I don't think I'm that off-base in saying that UC not having their two expected centers would be a "disaster" for the upcoming season.

Now, when I say disaster, I don't mean single-digit total wins. I'm thinking like losing to Xavier, losing to Dayton, maybe a fluke OOC loss, and sub-.500 or finishing 12th-14th in the Big 12. That scenario could play out if your front court depth gets shrunk from 5 to 3. Sure Vik and Ody are solid but when your only depth piece is Sage who, despite having a high ceiling, could very well be out of his element in the Big 12 until he gets another year or two under his belt.

Man, losing to Xavier is just another part of the early winter anymore. It's like every other fact of December: all the leaves are brown, and the sky is grey...

If our former coach taught us anything, it's that losing to Xavier is anything but a disaster.

As I said, a "disaster" in my mind based on preseason expectations of Aziz/Reynolds being unavailable isn't just a Xavier loss, it's all of the following: losing to Xavier, Dayton, another random OOC loss, and finishing 12th-14th in the Big 12 with a sub-.500 conference record.

(09-07-2023 09:20 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ]Vik is a great player and only getting better, there's no doubt about that. But this conversation isn't strictly about Vik. It's the fact that it's difficult for me to imagine a scenario where UC is without 40% of their anticipated front court, players who would probably get over 90% of the minutes at center, and not expect a significant negative impact on the team overall, especially heading into the best basketball conference in the country.

Now, Vik can obviously play center, it's what he's done the last two years but that's been against AAC competition and by all accounts if the coaching staff had thought he was a long-term solution at that position, they wouldn't have gone so hard after two centers in the transfer portal. Again, maybe Sage can play a role should Aziz/Reynolds be unavailable (he's penciled in as a long term solution currently) but I wouldn't bet the house on an underclassman coming in and dominating the Big 12 from the get go.

I just don't agree with this sentiment. I think they wanted inside depth and knew Vik was flexible enough to play the 4 or the 5. They went and got the two most talented guys they could fine. I don't see any evidence they viewed this as Vik not being capable of playing center. Vik's best work at center was often against the best competition last season.

Aziz was late to the table, but is super talented and could get drafted. I don't think there is any worry about Vik at center. Obviously, the best case scenario is have at least one of Aziz/Reynolds...it gives you a much larger margin for error and more roster flexibility. Vik at center will be an all conference type player this season.

(09-06-2023 10:00 PM)ZCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2023 08:29 PM)bearcat54 Wrote: [ -> ]does anyone know if basketball transfers Reynolds and Azizz Bondaoga have been cleared to play this season? if not yet, when?

Decision will be in Oct per Chad’s podcast.

They purposely did not apply yet because more information may come out from some of the other FB cases etc that they can use in our cases.
UC has it all ready.
And I think NCAA was not even gonna start reviewing them until October

ok. Thanks, I appreciate it. Hope somehow it turns in uc's favor.

(09-08-2023 03:04 PM)bearcat54 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2023 10:00 PM)ZCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2023 08:29 PM)bearcat54 Wrote: [ -> ]does anyone know if basketball transfers Reynolds and Azizz Bondaoga have been cleared to play this season? if not yet, when?

Decision will be in Oct per Chad’s podcast.

They purposely did not apply yet because more information may come out from some of the other FB cases etc that they can use in our cases.
UC has it all ready.
And I think NCAA was not even gonna start reviewing them until October

ok. Thanks, I appreciate it. Hope somehow it turns in uc's favor.

if the unc/Tez Walker case is any indication, i am not hopeful.