Quote:“I am convinced that all of this Florida State bluster is them looking at UCF and thinking, ‘They are going to be making more money than us in a few years. We cannot have this’. I think the UCF piece of this really triggered Florida State a little bit,” Russo said. “Like, that idea that UCF is now at our level? A huge school, a bigger city? It’s got to be unsettling to some Florida State people. You’re staring at a new reality there that is an uncomfortable spot.”
50 min mark starts with FSU
56 min mark for the FSU looking over the shoulder at FSU comment
- Doesn't think FSU will announce on Tuesday but wouldn't be surprised
- ACC is losing the PR battle with the Big 12
- Suggests ACC should pimp Big 12 teams as more desirable
- Big 12 strength is stability via undesirability
- FSU's core issue is UCF catching up financially to FSU
Quote:“I am convinced that all of this Florida State bluster is them looking at UCF and thinking, ‘They are going to be making more money than us in a few years. We cannot have this’. I think the UCF piece of this really triggered Florida State a little bit,” Russo said. “Like, that idea that UCF is now at our level? A huge school, a bigger city? It’s got to be unsettling to some Florida State people. You’re staring at a new reality there that is an uncomfortable spot.”
50 min mark starts with FSU
56 min mark for the FSU looking over the shoulder at FSU comment
- Doesn't think FSU will announce on Tuesday but wouldn't be surprised
- ACC is losing the PR battle with the Big 12
- Suggests ACC should pimp Big 12 teams as more desirable
- Big 12 strength is stability via undesirability
- FSU's core issue is UCF catching up financially to FSU
I think AD Alford said as much earlier this year, among other factors. I doubt UCF in the B12 is at the top of the list though. It starts with the massive payout disparity vs all the big boy P2 schools.
I listened to the recent FL St BOR's lamentation of their victimization by their AAC peers (without the hint of their own culpability). They did not mention UCF once. Their fear is losing the funding arms race with the elites of college football in the SEC and Big Ten.
I think it is a mistake to underestimate UCF, but FSU at the highest level do not view the Knights as a threat presently.
(08-14-2023 07:50 AM)GarnetAndBlue Wrote: [ -> ]I think AD Alford said as much earlier this year, among other factors. I doubt UCF in the B12 is at the top of the list though. It starts with the massive payout disparity vs all the big boy P2 schools.
I believe the timing of all of this probably says at least part of the concern for UCF is true. UCF has already passed by another florida bcs team in USF, and FSU realizes they are next on that list.
In my state, UT (and yes I have a degree from there too) just politically squashes anything that doesn't benefit UT. Knoxville would have never let happened in Murfreesboro what Tallahassee (and also Gainesville) has allowed to happen in Orlando. Pretty sure it's the same way in Bammer. Just ask UAB.
(08-14-2023 09:09 AM)PlayBall! Wrote: [ -> ]Do FSU and UCF play FB and/or BB often? Hopefully so or soon, and hopefully that's where UCF is the big threat. :-)
They’re just mad that USF, Miami, and Gators are AAU and they are not
(08-14-2023 09:09 AM)PlayBall! Wrote: [ -> ]Do FSU and UCF play FB and/or BB often? Hopefully so or soon, and hopefully that's where UCF is the big threat. :-)
FSU losing to South Florida in 2009 ended Bobby Bowden's career. I don't think FSU has any appetite for scheduling another in-state Florida game.
FSU already plays Florida annually.
FSU already plays Miami annually.
FSU is a national brand and playing a series with Georgia or Notre Dame helps keeps the national narrative.
FSU is the least likely to schedule UCF in the future.
Florida has an upcoming 2 for 1 series that starts next year.
Miami is unlikely sign a home and home series with UCF given the current realignment landscape.
UCF has a huge student body and in NIL era is going to be a major power. Likely they will suck in a lot of recruits FSU used to get so they should be afraid.
Yea, well, I'm sure USF making AAU didn't make them feel great either.
But all of this upheaval comes from the same source: too few big earners in the PAC and AAC.
What's remarkable is the Big 12 not only keeping, but improving, its contract post Texas and OU.
(08-14-2023 09:09 AM)PlayBall! Wrote: [ -> ]Do FSU and UCF play FB and/or BB often? Hopefully so or soon, and hopefully that's where UCF is the big threat. :-)
They’re just mad that USF, Miami, and Gators are AAU and they are not
Only a matter of time. USF earned it overwhelmingly due to the Moffitt connection. FSU's med research still has a ways to go. With that being said...Go Knights! That school sure ate your football program's lunch. Inexplicable how far behind the Bulls got in spite of every advantage 20-30 years ago.
(08-14-2023 09:27 AM)jgkojak Wrote: [ -> ]UCF has a huge student body and in NIL era is going to be a major power. Likely they will suck in a lot of recruits FSU used to get so they should be afraid.
By the time schools like UCF and (especially) USF begin gaining serious momentum in college football...the sport will probably be on a steep decline. Enjoy the next 20 years of it.
(08-14-2023 09:09 AM)PlayBall! Wrote: [ -> ]Do FSU and UCF play FB and/or BB often? Hopefully so or soon, and hopefully that's where UCF is the big threat. :-)
They’re just mad that USF, Miami, and Gators are AAU and they are not
That was a goal post Tallahassee couldn't move since AAU is a national organization. If it was state run, no way USF gets it. The rules would have been changed.
Florida State's top concern—also a concern of Clemson's—is keeping up with peer/rival programs that recruit in the same region. Many of these programs compete as members of the SEC: Georgia, UF, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, and the like.
The SEC/B1G is set to double ACC money in a few years. If you're watching your rivals lap you while local newcomers are gabbing about gaining, your ACC league membership and conference network are not doing for you what they were supposed to do. Obviously.
You're doing everything else right. You're raising money well, you're hiring good coaches, your athletes are winning. What you need to do now is close the revenue gap.
If you can't do that in conference, you'll just have to do it out of conference.
(08-14-2023 08:43 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]I believe the timing of all of this probably says at least part of the concern for UCF is true. UCF has already passed by another florida bcs team in USF, and FSU realizes they are next on that list.
They are already ahead of Miami from rumors that they have interests from the P2 schools as well. Imagine UCF gets an invite to the Big 10 or SEC before Florida State and Miami? UCF does not have the GORs and exit fees that much to worry about. Big 10 wants a Florida tv market, and may not wait for the GORs to end in 36. They would come in and grab UCF much sooner than later. Rutgers came in from the Big East which they had no stop in the ACC which Big East is behind the ACC in the pecking order.
(08-14-2023 07:50 AM)GarnetAndBlue Wrote: [ -> ]I think AD Alford said as much earlier this year, among other factors. I doubt UCF in the B12 is at the top of the list though. It starts with the massive payout disparity vs all the big boy P2 schools.
Yup!
Just happy the storyline continues.
Right, they don't want to fall behind monetarily to a team like UCF that hasn't accomplished anything like FSU has in CFB. But this has nothing to do with UCF, other than they are in the same state. One can easily just replace UCF with Houston in this scenario.
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