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Put a fork in the PAC. Not sure what that means for Memphis or the G5 at large but it does not look good for them staying together.
If the B12 raids the PAC then Memphis will never get in the B12. I can't see the ACC ever taking Memphis unless it absolutely falls apart.
(06-07-2023 06:29 PM)bluebacker Wrote: [ -> ]If the B12 raids the PAC then Memphis will never get in the B12. I can't see the ACC ever taking Memphis unless it absolutely falls apart.

Yep, it will take the BIG and SEC raiding the ACC to give us a chance, at which point the ACC will be the CUSA 5.0.
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(06-07-2023 06:00 PM)dcg141 Wrote: [ -> ]Put a fork in the PAC. Not sure what that means for Memphis or the G5 at large but it does not look good for them staying together.

Now that GOR has been agreed to, it is only a matter of time till the TV deal is done.

If comes in anywhere close to the Big XII deal then the PAC stays together.

Then the Big XII becomes the 90-pound weakling.

The most valuable asset the Big XII has is Oklahoma St.

The Big XII is the only P5 conference that discussing adding basketball-only schools.
(06-07-2023 11:02 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2023 06:00 PM)dcg141 Wrote: [ -> ]Put a fork in the PAC. Not sure what that means for Memphis or the G5 at large but it does not look good for them staying together.

Now that GOR has been agreed to, it is only a matter of time till the TV deal is done.

If comes in anywhere close to the Big XII deal then the PAC stays together.

Then the Big XII becomes the 90-pound weakling.

The most valuable asset the Big XII has is Oklahoma St.

The Big XII is the only P5 conference that discussing adding basketball-only schools.

And we still desperately want / need to get into the B12.

If they are the 90 pound weakling then the AAC is a **** stain in the 90 pound weakling's underwear.
(06-07-2023 06:29 PM)bluebacker Wrote: [ -> ]If the B12 raids the PAC then Memphis will never get in the B12. I can't see the ACC ever taking Memphis unless it absolutely falls apart.

At least at the moment, it seems to behoove Memphis that the two leagues that may get raided or implode would be on opposite sides of the country. We've seen leagues taking teams farther and farther away, but there becomes a point where there can't be a league with teams literally on opposite coasts.

It's hardest for me to imagine a scenario where we get into the Big12 because they bolstered their numbers with G5 teams already and Memphis doesn't add anything that brings them more $$$. If the ACC gets raided, who are they adding? I think we need to pray for chaos in general, but mostly ACC. That's probably our best hope.

Certainly possible that a raided PAC wants a foothold in SEC territory, but probably not too likely they look to Memphis.

In a scenario where the ACC loses UNC, Clemson, FSU, and Miami they may want USF to keep a FL presence, but are there really three other schools better positioned than Memphis? To the extent we can do anything about it, the ACC getting raided big time is what we should focus on in my opinion!
(06-08-2023 02:17 PM)BluffCityBoy Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2023 06:29 PM)bluebacker Wrote: [ -> ]If the B12 raids the PAC then Memphis will never get in the B12. I can't see the ACC ever taking Memphis unless it absolutely falls apart.

At least at the moment, it seems to behoove Memphis that the two leagues that may get raided or implode would be on opposite sides of the country. We've seen leagues taking teams farther and farther away, but there becomes a point where there can't be a league with teams literally on opposite coasts.

It's hardest for me to imagine a scenario where we get into the Big12 because they bolstered their numbers with G5 teams already and Memphis doesn't add anything that brings them more $$$. If the ACC gets raided, who are they adding? I think we need to pray for chaos in general, but mostly ACC. That's probably our best hope.

Certainly possible that a raided PAC wants a foothold in SEC territory, but probably not too likely they look to Memphis.

In a scenario where the ACC loses UNC, Clemson, FSU, and Miami they may want USF to keep a FL presence, but are there really three other schools better positioned than Memphis? To the extent we can do anything about it, the ACC getting raided big time is what we should focus on in my opinion!

With the apparent ironclad ACC GOR, that likely doesn't happen until 2036, with announcements beginning in '34. A lot can happen in 12-14 yrs. So that's why I continue to say our best hope now is to win big, dominate the AAC in FB & MBB. The question, is our admin willing to step up & do what is necessary with both programs to insure that result?
Nothing is happening with the PAC. We must move forward and see the next steps of the powerful Big 12

(06-08-2023 02:41 PM)Atlanta Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 02:17 PM)BluffCityBoy Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2023 06:29 PM)bluebacker Wrote: [ -> ]If the B12 raids the PAC then Memphis will never get in the B12. I can't see the ACC ever taking Memphis unless it absolutely falls apart.

At least at the moment, it seems to behoove Memphis that the two leagues that may get raided or implode would be on opposite sides of the country. We've seen leagues taking teams farther and farther away, but there becomes a point where there can't be a league with teams literally on opposite coasts.

It's hardest for me to imagine a scenario where we get into the Big12 because they bolstered their numbers with G5 teams already and Memphis doesn't add anything that brings them more $$$. If the ACC gets raided, who are they adding? I think we need to pray for chaos in general, but mostly ACC. That's probably our best hope.

Certainly possible that a raided PAC wants a foothold in SEC territory, but probably not too likely they look to Memphis.

In a scenario where the ACC loses UNC, Clemson, FSU, and Miami they may want USF to keep a FL presence, but are there really three other schools better positioned than Memphis? To the extent we can do anything about it, the ACC getting raided big time is what we should focus on in my opinion!

With the apparent ironclad ACC GOR, that likely doesn't happen until 2036, with announcements beginning in '34. A lot can happen in 12-14 yrs. So that's why I continue to say our best hope now is to win big, dominate the AAC in FB & MBB. The question, is our admin willing to step up & do what is necessary with both programs to insure that result?
(06-08-2023 02:56 PM)TigersTigers Wrote: [ -> ]Nothing is happening with the PAC. We must move forward and see the next steps of the powerful Big 12

(06-08-2023 02:41 PM)Atlanta Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 02:17 PM)BluffCityBoy Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2023 06:29 PM)bluebacker Wrote: [ -> ]If the B12 raids the PAC then Memphis will never get in the B12. I can't see the ACC ever taking Memphis unless it absolutely falls apart.

At least at the moment, it seems to behoove Memphis that the two leagues that may get raided or implode would be on opposite sides of the country. We've seen leagues taking teams farther and farther away, but there becomes a point where there can't be a league with teams literally on opposite coasts.

It's hardest for me to imagine a scenario where we get into the Big12 because they bolstered their numbers with G5 teams already and Memphis doesn't add anything that brings them more $$$. If the ACC gets raided, who are they adding? I think we need to pray for chaos in general, but mostly ACC. That's probably our best hope.

Certainly possible that a raided PAC wants a foothold in SEC territory, but probably not too likely they look to Memphis.

In a scenario where the ACC loses UNC, Clemson, FSU, and Miami they may want USF to keep a FL presence, but are there really three other schools better positioned than Memphis? To the extent we can do anything about it, the ACC getting raided big time is what we should focus on in my opinion!

With the apparent ironclad ACC GOR, that likely doesn't happen until 2036, with announcements beginning in '34. A lot can happen in 12-14 yrs. So that's why I continue to say our best hope now is to win big, dominate the AAC in FB & MBB. The question, is our admin willing to step up & do what is necessary with both programs to insure that result?

Yeah, pretty sure the money the BIG and SEC are raking in, some GOR buyouts wouldnt be off the table.
(06-08-2023 02:41 PM)Atlanta Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 02:17 PM)BluffCityBoy Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2023 06:29 PM)bluebacker Wrote: [ -> ]If the B12 raids the PAC then Memphis will never get in the B12. I can't see the ACC ever taking Memphis unless it absolutely falls apart.

At least at the moment, it seems to behoove Memphis that the two leagues that may get raided or implode would be on opposite sides of the country. We've seen leagues taking teams farther and farther away, but there becomes a point where there can't be a league with teams literally on opposite coasts.

It's hardest for me to imagine a scenario where we get into the Big12 because they bolstered their numbers with G5 teams already and Memphis doesn't add anything that brings them more $$$. If the ACC gets raided, who are they adding? I think we need to pray for chaos in general, but mostly ACC. That's probably our best hope.

Certainly possible that a raided PAC wants a foothold in SEC territory, but probably not too likely they look to Memphis.

In a scenario where the ACC loses UNC, Clemson, FSU, and Miami they may want USF to keep a FL presence, but are there really three other schools better positioned than Memphis? To the extent we can do anything about it, the ACC getting raided big time is what we should focus on in my opinion!

With the apparent ironclad ACC GOR, that likely doesn't happen until 2036, with announcements beginning in '34. A lot can happen in 12-14 yrs. So that's why I continue to say our best hope now is to win big, dominate the AAC in FB & MBB. The question, is our admin willing to step up & do what is necessary with both programs to insure that result?

Do we really need to dominate (I take that to mean crush everyone)? We just lost three schools and and I wouldn’t consider any of them dominant in either sport. Two year runs here and there, but no one was dominating the conference.

Some of the new teams might not have the history of the old, but it’s not suddenly us vs a bunch of laughing stock programs. Arguably still the best G5.
(06-08-2023 02:41 PM)Atlanta Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 02:17 PM)BluffCityBoy Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2023 06:29 PM)bluebacker Wrote: [ -> ]If the B12 raids the PAC then Memphis will never get in the B12. I can't see the ACC ever taking Memphis unless it absolutely falls apart.

At least at the moment, it seems to behoove Memphis that the two leagues that may get raided or implode would be on opposite sides of the country. We've seen leagues taking teams farther and farther away, but there becomes a point where there can't be a league with teams literally on opposite coasts.

It's hardest for me to imagine a scenario where we get into the Big12 because they bolstered their numbers with G5 teams already and Memphis doesn't add anything that brings them more $$$. If the ACC gets raided, who are they adding? I think we need to pray for chaos in general, but mostly ACC. That's probably our best hope.

Certainly possible that a raided PAC wants a foothold in SEC territory, but probably not too likely they look to Memphis.

In a scenario where the ACC loses UNC, Clemson, FSU, and Miami they may want USF to keep a FL presence, but are there really three other schools better positioned than Memphis? To the extent we can do anything about it, the ACC getting raided big time is what we should focus on in my opinion!

With the apparent ironclad ACC GOR, that likely doesn't happen until 2036, with announcements beginning in '34. A lot can happen in 12-14 yrs. So that's why I continue to say our best hope now is to win big, dominate the AAC in FB & MBB. The question, is our admin willing to step up & do what is necessary with both programs to insure that result?

I certainly don't know anything that the lawyers or ACC schools trying to pick apart the deal don't see, but when it comes to $$$, gears can get greased to start moving. As Bowlsby said about Texas and OU breaking their GOR and leaving he said it is "going to end up having to be a negotiation, not a court trial." Dominos will continue to fall, and situations change. I'm not really a betting man, but I'd be shocked if the ACC stayed the same through 2036!
(06-08-2023 03:16 PM)Browning Hall Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 02:41 PM)Atlanta Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 02:17 PM)BluffCityBoy Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2023 06:29 PM)bluebacker Wrote: [ -> ]If the B12 raids the PAC then Memphis will never get in the B12. I can't see the ACC ever taking Memphis unless it absolutely falls apart.

At least at the moment, it seems to behoove Memphis that the two leagues that may get raided or implode would be on opposite sides of the country. We've seen leagues taking teams farther and farther away, but there becomes a point where there can't be a league with teams literally on opposite coasts.

It's hardest for me to imagine a scenario where we get into the Big12 because they bolstered their numbers with G5 teams already and Memphis doesn't add anything that brings them more $$$. If the ACC gets raided, who are they adding? I think we need to pray for chaos in general, but mostly ACC. That's probably our best hope.

Certainly possible that a raided PAC wants a foothold in SEC territory, but probably not too likely they look to Memphis.

In a scenario where the ACC loses UNC, Clemson, FSU, and Miami they may want USF to keep a FL presence, but are there really three other schools better positioned than Memphis? To the extent we can do anything about it, the ACC getting raided big time is what we should focus on in my opinion!

With the apparent ironclad ACC GOR, that likely doesn't happen until 2036, with announcements beginning in '34. A lot can happen in 12-14 yrs. So that's why I continue to say our best hope now is to win big, dominate the AAC in FB & MBB. The question, is our admin willing to step up & do what is necessary with both programs to insure that result?

Do we really need to dominate (I take that to mean crush everyone)? We just lost three schools and and I wouldn’t consider any of them dominant in either sport. Two year runs here and there, but no one was dominating the conference.

Some of the new teams might not have the history of the old, but it’s not suddenly us vs a bunch of laughing stock programs. Arguably still the best G5.


We beat Houston in football 5 years in a row prior to them getting in the B12. Winning matters, but I think that proves it isn’t everything.
Obviously we'll find out soon enough where the pac-12 stands. I do have to wonder why the University of Colorado board of regents canceled their special meeting. Lean towards thinking this is a good sign.
(06-08-2023 03:16 PM)Browning Hall Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 02:41 PM)Atlanta Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 02:17 PM)BluffCityBoy Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2023 06:29 PM)bluebacker Wrote: [ -> ]If the B12 raids the PAC then Memphis will never get in the B12. I can't see the ACC ever taking Memphis unless it absolutely falls apart.

At least at the moment, it seems to behoove Memphis that the two leagues that may get raided or implode would be on opposite sides of the country. We've seen leagues taking teams farther and farther away, but there becomes a point where there can't be a league with teams literally on opposite coasts.

It's hardest for me to imagine a scenario where we get into the Big12 because they bolstered their numbers with G5 teams already and Memphis doesn't add anything that brings them more $$$. If the ACC gets raided, who are they adding? I think we need to pray for chaos in general, but mostly ACC. That's probably our best hope.

Certainly possible that a raided PAC wants a foothold in SEC territory, but probably not too likely they look to Memphis.

In a scenario where the ACC loses UNC, Clemson, FSU, and Miami they may want USF to keep a FL presence, but are there really three other schools better positioned than Memphis? To the extent we can do anything about it, the ACC getting raided big time is what we should focus on in my opinion!

With the apparent ironclad ACC GOR, that likely doesn't happen until 2036, with announcements beginning in '34. A lot can happen in 12-14 yrs. So that's why I continue to say our best hope now is to win big, dominate the AAC in FB & MBB. The question, is our admin willing to step up & do what is necessary with both programs to insure that result?

Do we really need to dominate (I take that to mean crush everyone)? We just lost three schools and and I wouldn’t consider any of them dominant in either sport. Two year runs here and there, but no one was dominating the conference.

Some of the new teams might not have the history of the old, but it’s not suddenly us vs a bunch of laughing stock programs. Arguably still the best G5.

If we're not dominating, we're not drawing crowds to our games. not getting in the CFP, not getting exposure. Since we're are not in the academic class of Tulane or USF, not in a city the size of Tampa/St Pete or New Orleans how do we distinguish or separate ourselves to get the invite?
(06-08-2023 04:40 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 03:16 PM)Browning Hall Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 02:41 PM)Atlanta Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 02:17 PM)BluffCityBoy Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2023 06:29 PM)bluebacker Wrote: [ -> ]If the B12 raids the PAC then Memphis will never get in the B12. I can't see the ACC ever taking Memphis unless it absolutely falls apart.

At least at the moment, it seems to behoove Memphis that the two leagues that may get raided or implode would be on opposite sides of the country. We've seen leagues taking teams farther and farther away, but there becomes a point where there can't be a league with teams literally on opposite coasts.

It's hardest for me to imagine a scenario where we get into the Big12 because they bolstered their numbers with G5 teams already and Memphis doesn't add anything that brings them more $$$. If the ACC gets raided, who are they adding? I think we need to pray for chaos in general, but mostly ACC. That's probably our best hope.

Certainly possible that a raided PAC wants a foothold in SEC territory, but probably not too likely they look to Memphis.

In a scenario where the ACC loses UNC, Clemson, FSU, and Miami they may want USF to keep a FL presence, but are there really three other schools better positioned than Memphis? To the extent we can do anything about it, the ACC getting raided big time is what we should focus on in my opinion!

With the apparent ironclad ACC GOR, that likely doesn't happen until 2036, with announcements beginning in '34. A lot can happen in 12-14 yrs. So that's why I continue to say our best hope now is to win big, dominate the AAC in FB & MBB. The question, is our admin willing to step up & do what is necessary with both programs to insure that result?

Do we really need to dominate (I take that to mean crush everyone)? We just lost three schools and and I wouldn’t consider any of them dominant in either sport. Two year runs here and there, but no one was dominating the conference.

Some of the new teams might not have the history of the old, but it’s not suddenly us vs a bunch of laughing stock programs. Arguably still the best G5.


We beat Houston in football 5 years in a row prior to them getting in the B12. Winning matters, but I think that proves it isn’t everything.

^THIS^--and nobody even wanted them--and they still got in.

Plus-at the speed this all seems to be moving---concerning the big12--could this be settled even before this coming season is finished ?

If the PAC stands---does the BIG12 announce they are adding 2-4 or some amount anyway----and actually announce the chosen ---sooner rather than later ?

Plus again--with this schedule ----how can we not dominate .
(06-08-2023 04:40 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 03:16 PM)Browning Hall Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 02:41 PM)Atlanta Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 02:17 PM)BluffCityBoy Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2023 06:29 PM)bluebacker Wrote: [ -> ]If the B12 raids the PAC then Memphis will never get in the B12. I can't see the ACC ever taking Memphis unless it absolutely falls apart.

At least at the moment, it seems to behoove Memphis that the two leagues that may get raided or implode would be on opposite sides of the country. We've seen leagues taking teams farther and farther away, but there becomes a point where there can't be a league with teams literally on opposite coasts.

It's hardest for me to imagine a scenario where we get into the Big12 because they bolstered their numbers with G5 teams already and Memphis doesn't add anything that brings them more $$$. If the ACC gets raided, who are they adding? I think we need to pray for chaos in general, but mostly ACC. That's probably our best hope.

Certainly possible that a raided PAC wants a foothold in SEC territory, but probably not too likely they look to Memphis.

In a scenario where the ACC loses UNC, Clemson, FSU, and Miami they may want USF to keep a FL presence, but are there really three other schools better positioned than Memphis? To the extent we can do anything about it, the ACC getting raided big time is what we should focus on in my opinion!

With the apparent ironclad ACC GOR, that likely doesn't happen until 2036, with announcements beginning in '34. A lot can happen in 12-14 yrs. So that's why I continue to say our best hope now is to win big, dominate the AAC in FB & MBB. The question, is our admin willing to step up & do what is necessary with both programs to insure that result?

Do we really need to dominate (I take that to mean crush everyone)? We just lost three schools and and I wouldn’t consider any of them dominant in either sport. Two year runs here and there, but no one was dominating the conference.

Some of the new teams might not have the history of the old, but it’s not suddenly us vs a bunch of laughing stock programs. Arguably still the best G5.


We beat Houston in football 5 years in a row prior to them getting in the B12. Winning matters, but I think that proves it isn’t everything.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isnt the only reason Houston was invited is because Texas politicians forced it?
(06-08-2023 09:22 PM)Stammers Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 03:51 PM)BluffCityBoy Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 02:41 PM)Atlanta Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 02:17 PM)BluffCityBoy Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2023 06:29 PM)bluebacker Wrote: [ -> ]If the B12 raids the PAC then Memphis will never get in the B12. I can't see the ACC ever taking Memphis unless it absolutely falls apart.

At least at the moment, it seems to behoove Memphis that the two leagues that may get raided or implode would be on opposite sides of the country. We've seen leagues taking teams farther and farther away, but there becomes a point where there can't be a league with teams literally on opposite coasts.

It's hardest for me to imagine a scenario where we get into the Big12 because they bolstered their numbers with G5 teams already and Memphis doesn't add anything that brings them more $$$. If the ACC gets raided, who are they adding? I think we need to pray for chaos in general, but mostly ACC. That's probably our best hope.

Certainly possible that a raided PAC wants a foothold in SEC territory, but probably not too likely they look to Memphis.

In a scenario where the ACC loses UNC, Clemson, FSU, and Miami they may want USF to keep a FL presence, but are there really three other schools better positioned than Memphis? To the extent we can do anything about it, the ACC getting raided big time is what we should focus on in my opinion!

With the apparent ironclad ACC GOR, that likely doesn't happen until 2036, with announcements beginning in '34. A lot can happen in 12-14 yrs. So that's why I continue to say our best hope now is to win big, dominate the AAC in FB & MBB. The question, is our admin willing to step up & do what is necessary with both programs to insure that result?

I certainly don't know anything that the lawyers or ACC schools trying to pick apart the deal don't see, but when it comes to $$$, gears can get greased to start moving. As Bowlsby said about Texas and OU breaking their GOR and leaving he said it is "going to end up having to be a negotiation, not a court trial." Dominos will continue to fall, and situations change. I'm not really a betting man, but I'd be shocked if the ACC stayed the same through 2036!

The Big 12 has never had a GOR.

If I recall, the Big12 had a GOR several years back. When they renewed the contract, Texas and Oklahoma refused the GOR portion. That was the first clue that something was up, even if it took several years to come to fruition. Here's an article specifically mentioning the "ironclad" GOR for the Big12:
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...urbulence/

From the article:
Quote:While Texas and Oklahoma did cause significant upheaval in leaving the Big 12, it cost the programs a combined $100 million to exit the league in 2024, a year before the Big 12's grant of rights was to expire. (The schools had already notified the Big 12 they wouldn't agree to an extension of those rights.)
(06-09-2023 08:11 AM)aardWolf Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 09:22 PM)Stammers Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 03:51 PM)BluffCityBoy Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 02:41 PM)Atlanta Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2023 02:17 PM)BluffCityBoy Wrote: [ -> ]At least at the moment, it seems to behoove Memphis that the two leagues that may get raided or implode would be on opposite sides of the country. We've seen leagues taking teams farther and farther away, but there becomes a point where there can't be a league with teams literally on opposite coasts.

It's hardest for me to imagine a scenario where we get into the Big12 because they bolstered their numbers with G5 teams already and Memphis doesn't add anything that brings them more $$$. If the ACC gets raided, who are they adding? I think we need to pray for chaos in general, but mostly ACC. That's probably our best hope.

Certainly possible that a raided PAC wants a foothold in SEC territory, but probably not too likely they look to Memphis.

In a scenario where the ACC loses UNC, Clemson, FSU, and Miami they may want USF to keep a FL presence, but are there really three other schools better positioned than Memphis? To the extent we can do anything about it, the ACC getting raided big time is what we should focus on in my opinion!

With the apparent ironclad ACC GOR, that likely doesn't happen until 2036, with announcements beginning in '34. A lot can happen in 12-14 yrs. So that's why I continue to say our best hope now is to win big, dominate the AAC in FB & MBB. The question, is our admin willing to step up & do what is necessary with both programs to insure that result?

I certainly don't know anything that the lawyers or ACC schools trying to pick apart the deal don't see, but when it comes to $$$, gears can get greased to start moving. As Bowlsby said about Texas and OU breaking their GOR and leaving he said it is "going to end up having to be a negotiation, not a court trial." Dominos will continue to fall, and situations change. I'm not really a betting man, but I'd be shocked if the ACC stayed the same through 2036!

The Big 12 has never had a GOR.

If I recall, the Big12 had a GOR several years back. When they renewed the contract, Texas and Oklahoma refused the GOR portion. That was the first clue that something was up, even if it took several years to come to fruition. Here's an article specifically mentioning the "ironclad" GOR for the Big12:
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...urbulence/

From the article:
Quote:While Texas and Oklahoma did cause significant upheaval in leaving the Big 12, it cost the programs a combined $100 million to exit the league in 2024, a year before the Big 12's grant of rights was to expire. (The schools had already notified the Big 12 they wouldn't agree to an extension of those rights.)

LOL---Imagine that
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