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We are two point favorites at home.

Let's beat to top tier team and go into the tournament firing on all cylinders!
Not that it matters one iota, but Towson is the 2 pt favorite.
(02-25-2023 06:47 PM)Seahawk2010 Wrote: [ -> ]Not that it matters one iota, but Towson is the 2 pt favorite.

I stand corrected.

But with Hosftra and Charleston finishing their regular seasons very very strongly, us showing up with a seriously strong performance is really important.
(02-25-2023 06:59 PM)70shawk Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-25-2023 06:47 PM)Seahawk2010 Wrote: [ -> ]Not that it matters one iota, but Towson is the 2 pt favorite.

I stand corrected.

But with Hosftra and Charleston finishing their regular seasons very very strongly, us showing up with a seriously strong performance is really important.

Agreed. Hard to believe but this would be our best conference win and probably our best win since N Texas. Just shows how bad the rest of the CAA is outside the top 4.
(02-25-2023 07:02 PM)Seahawk2010 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-25-2023 06:59 PM)70shawk Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-25-2023 06:47 PM)Seahawk2010 Wrote: [ -> ]Not that it matters one iota, but Towson is the 2 pt favorite.

I stand corrected.

But with Hosftra and Charleston finishing their regular seasons very very strongly, us showing up with a seriously strong performance is really important.

Agreed. Hard to believe but this would be our best conference win and probably our best win since N Texas. Just shows how bad the rest of the CAA is outside the top 4.

That was a really solid first half. We need to keep that up.
(02-25-2023 08:08 PM)70shawk Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-25-2023 07:02 PM)Seahawk2010 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-25-2023 06:59 PM)70shawk Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-25-2023 06:47 PM)Seahawk2010 Wrote: [ -> ]Not that it matters one iota, but Towson is the 2 pt favorite.

I stand corrected.

But with Hosftra and Charleston finishing their regular seasons very very strongly, us showing up with a seriously strong performance is really important.

Agreed. Hard to believe but this would be our best conference win and probably our best win since N Texas. Just shows how bad the rest of the CAA is outside the top 4.

That was a really solid first half. We need to keep that up.

The key? Balanced scoring. No one in double figures, but a double figure lead.
Tie game with 2 minutes to go.
UNCW down by 2. Has final shot to tie or win the game.
It turns out that letting Towson go on an 11-1 run at the end of the game is not a winning strategy.
Not sure I agree with intentionally missing that second free throw. If you don’t get the rebound, the games is essentially over. Make it, you still have a chance to tie with a 3.

Towson stole this one. Only lead for 2 minutes the entire game.
(02-25-2023 09:19 PM)Seahawk2010 Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure I agree with intentionally missing that second free throw. If you don’t get the rebound, the games is essentially over. Make it, you still have a chance to tie with a 3.

Towson stole this one. Only lead for 2 minutes the entire game.

Yep.

I would have had Farrar on the floor more down the stretch. For whatever reason, Coach Siddle does not seem to fully trust him, but the problem is that the guys he does trust weren't hitting shots. Further, to my eye, I didn't see any of them at the end who were really anxious to be 'the guy'. We could have used somebody in there who was itching to get the ball and had a high confidence in his shot making ability.
(02-25-2023 09:26 PM)70shawk Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-25-2023 09:19 PM)Seahawk2010 Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure I agree with intentionally missing that second free throw. If you don’t get the rebound, the games is essentially over. Make it, you still have a chance to tie with a 3.

Towson stole this one. Only lead for 2 minutes the entire game.

Yep.

I would have had Farrar on the floor more down the stretch. For whatever reason, Coach Siddle does not seem to fully trust him, but the problem is that the guys he does trust weren't hitting shots. Further, to my eye, I didn't see any of them at the end who were really anxious to be 'the guy'. We could have used somebody in there who was itching to get the ball and had a high confidence in his shot making ability.

Yep. Nobody seems to be “the guy” in CAA play. Last year we had Sims and Okauru. This is a young team. Siddle seems to value a PG (Phillips and Thomas) to make a big play. Problem is they are our shortest players and haven’t been able to drive effectively and make the shot.

Siddle seemed really dejected in his postgame interview with Mike. Something I haven’t seen from him. Hopefully this is a lightbulb result and we see some changes in DC.
I'll rewatch the game to find all of those wide open "layups" we apparently missed in the second half, but here's my take.

1. I was concerned we were only up 11 in the first half despite shooting over 60% while holding Towson under 40%. We were making turnovers that led to scores. HOWEVER, we were getting out on the break after defensive rebounds and looking to push pace.

2. I understand the Keatts/Siddle philosophy of freedom on offense if you play good defense, but that freedom destroyed us in the second half as Kelly as we abandoned our "get a touch in the paint then pass for an open shot" philosophy which worked fantastic in the first half, and regressed to our "jacking three's if you feel like it" philosophy which has put us in many a hole before.

3. We are a team with NO gifted scorers(except Farrar), i've said it before and i'll say it again. YET, when we are struggling to get a basket, and don't get one over the FINAL TEN MINUTES of a game, Farrar is getting splinters in his ass watching us flail away in a half court offense. WTF? And this is common. I don't care what Farrar does wrong Siddle may not like, he isn't the guy shooting 1-7 from the field doing wrong. Put him on the court to score some buckets and settle us down on offense, it's that simple.

4. When we are struggling to score the LAST thing we need to do is SLOW DOWN the pace and get into a half court game, especially against a team like Towson. DO THE OPPOSITE SIDDLE. Pressure harder, run more, increase the pace. Why would you intentionally play the other teams game when you've been destroying them on offense.

5. Siddle. Stop going to post game interviews and blaming the players while you never take any blame. It's worse than saying "they made some tough shots"....
(02-26-2023 04:45 AM)82hawk Wrote: [ -> ]2. I understand the Keatts/Siddle philosophy of freedom on offense if you play good defense, but that freedom destroyed us in the second half as Kelly as we abandoned our "get a touch in the paint then pass for an open shot" philosophy which worked fantastic in the first half, and regressed to our "jacking three's if you feel like it" philosophy which has put us in many a hole before.

3. We are a team with NO gifted scorers(except Farrar), i've said it before and i'll say it again. YET, when we are struggling to get a basket, and don't get one over the FINAL TEN MINUTES of a game, Farrar is getting splinters in his ass watching us flail away in a half court offense. WTF? And this is common. I don't care what Farrar does wrong Siddle may not like, he isn't the guy shooting 1-7 from the field doing wrong. Put him on the court to score some buckets and settle us down on offense, it's that simple.

5. Siddle. Stop going to post game interviews and blaming the players while you never take any blame. It's worse than saying "they made some tough shots"....

^^This^^. Not that I disagree with your other points, but ^^this^^ for sure.

So here's the way I see it: with all of the talk earlier about whether a 3 or 4 seed was better - whether it was better to play Hofstra before Charleston, or vice versa - it was easy to ignore the inconvenient fact that we are far from as sure bet to win our first game and even get to that point. We were far from dominant against the rest of the field, and now are winless against our fellow occupants of the "top four".

Coach Siddle really shortened to lineup last night , playing only 8 people ("the guys I trust" plus (seemingly) begrudgingly playing Farrar. He didn't give Ross minutes to get him more tournament ready. He didn't even let Enoh sniff the floor on Senior Night. And the two players who got us 25% of our points, Farrar and Harvey, played far fewer minutes than the other 6 players who saw the floor last night.

So now we are highly likely to face Drexel first...and face the very real prospect of getting bounced in the first game - unless we do something different. Not just play with great intensity for 40 minutes, be tough, etc.

Something different, or there's no way we beat Drexel, then Charleston, then Hofstra in a three day stretch.
Fair points 70’s.
We play and coach like a AAU program
(02-26-2023 07:29 AM)70shawk Wrote: [ -> ]Something different, or there's no way we beat Drexel, then Charleston, then Hofstra in a three day stretch.
It would be Hofstra before Charleston.
(02-26-2023 02:39 PM)EvanJ Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-26-2023 07:29 AM)70shawk Wrote: [ -> ]Something different, or there's no way we beat Drexel, then Charleston, then Hofstra in a three day stretch.
It would be Hofstra before Charleston.

Again, I stand corrected. Not much comfort given our recent performance in Long Island. If anything, though, that makes my point stronger.
Chances are high that we get pummeled in the tournament. Whether it’s our first or second game, I don’t see this team playing three.

What is most disappointing is the regression this team has made during the course of the season.


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(02-26-2023 11:22 AM)Big Alpha Hawk Wrote: [ -> ]We play and coach like a AAU program

UNCW has the talent to compete for the Championship. Assuming we can get by Drexel, if I were Hosftra or Charleston I wouldn't feel great at all about playing UNCW. And, by the way, they won't feel great about having to play Towson either.

But our guys are going to have to play the tough, team game that got us so hot earlier in the year. And Coach shortening the bench to the "guys I trust", especially when they are laying bricks is a losing tournament strategy.

And by the way, in any games that come down to the last shot, the secret is out on the 'give the ball to Phillips and let him go one-on-one' strategy. I suggest a "Plan B".
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