01-21-2023, 05:07 PM
What if Texas, Oklahoma, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State had joined the PAC in either 2010 or 2011 like they were supposed to.
Would the PAC have ultimately remained intact?
Would the PAC have ultimately remained intact?
(01-21-2023 05:07 PM)Poster Wrote: [ -> ]What if Texas, Oklahoma, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State had joined the PAC in either 2010 or 2011 like they were supposed to.
Would the PAC have ultimately remained intact?
(01-21-2023 05:53 PM)CFBLurker Wrote: [ -> ]It would have survived and thrived. Pac 16 would have had gotten carriage across Texas,Colorado,Oklahoma and the surrounding plains states
(01-21-2023 07:43 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote: [ -> ](01-21-2023 05:53 PM)CFBLurker Wrote: [ -> ]It would have survived and thrived. Pac 16 would have had gotten carriage across Texas,Colorado,Oklahoma and the surrounding plains states
Absolutely agree.
(01-21-2023 07:53 PM)jrj84105 Wrote: [ -> ](01-21-2023 07:43 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote: [ -> ](01-21-2023 05:53 PM)CFBLurker Wrote: [ -> ]It would have survived and thrived. Pac 16 would have had gotten carriage across Texas,Colorado,Oklahoma and the surrounding plains states
Absolutely agree.
This is a no brainer.
The resulting BigXII/MWC + Boise merger would have been:
East:
Baylor-TCU
TTU-UNM
KSU-ISU
AFA
West:
BSU
CSU-WYO
UU-BYU
UNLV-SDSU
(01-21-2023 09:36 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote: [ -> ]The Pac 16 would have been the old Pac 10 + Texas, OU, Tech, OSU, CU, and 1 other. Maybe A&M, maybe someone else, we really wanted the SEC and probably would have used that opportunity to bolt, but if not us then probably Kansas. It would have stayed together and would now be a legitimate rival the B1G and SEC. If A&M had been pushed that direction, or for for whatever reason had chosen to go along, too? The Pac 16 would be a clear #1 right now.
And it all fell apart because Larry Scott was not the right man for the job.
(01-21-2023 09:35 PM)BePcr07 Wrote: [ -> ](01-21-2023 07:53 PM)jrj84105 Wrote: [ -> ](01-21-2023 07:43 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote: [ -> ](01-21-2023 05:53 PM)CFBLurker Wrote: [ -> ]It would have survived and thrived. Pac 16 would have had gotten carriage across Texas,Colorado,Oklahoma and the surrounding plains states
Absolutely agree.
This is a no brainer.
The resulting BigXII/MWC + Boise merger would have been:
East:
Baylor-TCU
TTU-UNM
KSU-ISU
AFA
West:
BSU
CSU-WYO
UU-BYU
UNLV-SDSU
I think slightly differently:
XII
To B1G (1): Nebraska
To SEC (2): Missouri, Texas A&M
To PAC (6): Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Texas, Texas Tech
Remaining (3): Baylor, Iowa St, Kansas St
MWC (9): Air Force, BYU, Colorado St, New Mexico, San Diego St, TCU, UNLV, Utah, Wyoming
I think the XII remainders join what became the AAC under the XII banner. Louisville and Rutgers ultimately leave but they do have West Virginia and Connecticut stays. So we have a 16-school AAC. MWC adds Boise St, Fresno St, Hawaii, Nevada, San Jose St, Utah St, and UTEP for 16.
XVI
East: Central Florida, Cincinnati, Connecticut, East Carolina, Memphis, South Florida, Temple, West Virginia
West: Baylor, Houston, Iowa St, Kansas St, Navy, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa
MWC
Mountain: Air Force, BYU, Colorado St, New Mexico, TCU, Utah, UTEP, Wyoming
West: Boise St, Fresno St, Hawaii, Nevada, San Diego St, San Jose St, UNLV, Utah St
(01-22-2023 12:35 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote: [ -> ]Here is an alternate reality:
A&M and Louisville end up in the SEC
Nebraska, Maryland, and Missouri in the B1G
UT/OU/TTU/OKST/CU/UU to PAC-16
Big XII survives (ISU, KU, KSU, Baylor) by adding WV, UC, UConn, USF, BYU, Boise, TCU, Houston.
Would look crazy today lol but to answer the original question the PAC-16 is much closer is close to equal to the B1G and SEC in relevance. Big XII is basically a better version of the AAC in the long term. C-USA survives and it and the Sun Belt look much different.