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If TCU wins the CFP...

The Big 12 will be the reigning College BB and FB champs

Fans should be asking Oklahoma and Texas why these schools, with top facilities, budgets and recruitment, couldn't even make the B12 championship game... and now they're going to the SEC...

Once the 12 team playoff starts, it would show there is no reason a B1G or SEC team is the only one who can with a championship

With payouts being equal or slightly better in the B12, how long before the four-corners decide they have a better shot in the B12?
(01-04-2023 10:40 AM)jgkojak Wrote: [ -> ]If TCU wins the CFP...

The Big 12 will be the reigning College BB and FB champs

Fans should be asking Oklahoma and Texas why these schools, with top facilities, budgets and recruitment, couldn't even make the B12 championship game... and now they're going to the SEC...

Once the 12 team playoff starts, it would show there is no reason a B1G or SEC team is the only one who can with a championship

With payouts being equal or slightly better in the B12, how long before the four-corners decide they have a better shot in the B12?

LFG TCU!!! 04-rock
(01-04-2023 10:40 AM)jgkojak Wrote: [ -> ]If TCU wins the CFP...

The Big 12 will be the reigning College BB and FB champs

Fans should be asking Oklahoma and Texas why these schools, with top facilities, budgets and recruitment, couldn't even make the B12 championship game... and now they're going to the SEC...

Once the 12 team playoff starts, it would show there is no reason a B1G or SEC team is the only one who can with a championship

With payouts being equal or slightly better in the B12, how long before the four-corners decide they have a better shot in the B12?

Why would they have a better shot in the Big 12? Competing with 14, 16, 18 teams for a conference champioinship (and playoff spot) vs competing with 10 or 12?

If TCU beats Georgia and proves that the lower half of the P5 can (still) compete with the top 10-15-20 programs with 100,000 seat stadiums and millions of TV fans, doesn't that prove that Arizona State or Colorado might as well stay where they are?
(01-04-2023 11:05 AM)johnbragg Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-04-2023 10:40 AM)jgkojak Wrote: [ -> ]If TCU wins the CFP...

The Big 12 will be the reigning College BB and FB champs

Fans should be asking Oklahoma and Texas why these schools, with top facilities, budgets and recruitment, couldn't even make the B12 championship game... and now they're going to the SEC...

Once the 12 team playoff starts, it would show there is no reason a B1G or SEC team is the only one who can with a championship

With payouts being equal or slightly better in the B12, how long before the four-corners decide they have a better shot in the B12?

Why would they have a better shot in the Big 12? Competing with 14, 16, 18 teams for a conference champioinship (and playoff spot) vs competing with 10 or 12?

If TCU beats Georgia and proves that the lower half of the P5 can (still) compete with the top 10-15-20 programs with 100,000 seat stadiums and millions of TV fans, doesn't that prove that Arizona State or Colorado might as well stay where they are?

TCU has ALREADY proven the lower half of the P5 can compete with the top 10-15-20 programs. They don't have to win this game to prove that. They already have.
(01-04-2023 11:05 AM)johnbragg Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-04-2023 10:40 AM)jgkojak Wrote: [ -> ]If TCU wins the CFP...

The Big 12 will be the reigning College BB and FB champs

Fans should be asking Oklahoma and Texas why these schools, with top facilities, budgets and recruitment, couldn't even make the B12 championship game... and now they're going to the SEC...

Once the 12 team playoff starts, it would show there is no reason a B1G or SEC team is the only one who can with a championship

With payouts being equal or slightly better in the B12, how long before the four-corners decide they have a better shot in the B12?

Why would they have a better shot in the Big 12? Competing with 14, 16, 18 teams for a conference champioinship (and playoff spot) vs competing with 10 or 12?

If TCU beats Georgia and proves that the lower half of the P5 can (still) compete with the top 10-15-20 programs with 100,000 seat stadiums and millions of TV fans, doesn't that prove that Arizona State or Colorado might as well stay where they are?

In what sense is TCU in "the lower half" of the P5? Over the past ten years they rank among the Top 20 football programs.
(01-04-2023 11:20 AM)ken d Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-04-2023 11:05 AM)johnbragg Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-04-2023 10:40 AM)jgkojak Wrote: [ -> ]If TCU wins the CFP...

The Big 12 will be the reigning College BB and FB champs

Fans should be asking Oklahoma and Texas why these schools, with top facilities, budgets and recruitment, couldn't even make the B12 championship game... and now they're going to the SEC...

Once the 12 team playoff starts, it would show there is no reason a B1G or SEC team is the only one who can with a championship

With payouts being equal or slightly better in the B12, how long before the four-corners decide they have a better shot in the B12?

Why would they have a better shot in the Big 12? Competing with 14, 16, 18 teams for a conference champioinship (and playoff spot) vs competing with 10 or 12?

If TCU beats Georgia and proves that the lower half of the P5 can (still) compete with the top 10-15-20 programs with 100,000 seat stadiums and millions of TV fans, doesn't that prove that Arizona State or Colorado might as well stay where they are?

In what sense is TCU in "the lower half" of the P5? Over the past ten years they rank among the Top 20 football programs.

Half is a misstatement on my part. There are around 20-30 programs who are in a different economic class than TCU, mostly in the SEC and Big Ten. That's less than half of the P5. one-third, 40%, depends where you draw the line.
(01-04-2023 11:26 AM)johnbragg Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-04-2023 11:20 AM)ken d Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-04-2023 11:05 AM)johnbragg Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-04-2023 10:40 AM)jgkojak Wrote: [ -> ]If TCU wins the CFP...

The Big 12 will be the reigning College BB and FB champs

Fans should be asking Oklahoma and Texas why these schools, with top facilities, budgets and recruitment, couldn't even make the B12 championship game... and now they're going to the SEC...

Once the 12 team playoff starts, it would show there is no reason a B1G or SEC team is the only one who can with a championship

With payouts being equal or slightly better in the B12, how long before the four-corners decide they have a better shot in the B12?

Why would they have a better shot in the Big 12? Competing with 14, 16, 18 teams for a conference champioinship (and playoff spot) vs competing with 10 or 12?

If TCU beats Georgia and proves that the lower half of the P5 can (still) compete with the top 10-15-20 programs with 100,000 seat stadiums and millions of TV fans, doesn't that prove that Arizona State or Colorado might as well stay where they are?

In what sense is TCU in "the lower half" of the P5? Over the past ten years they rank among the Top 20 football programs.

Half is a misstatement on my part. There are around 20-30 programs who are in a different economic class than TCU, mostly in the SEC and Big Ten. That's less than half of the P5. one-third, 40%, depends where you draw the line.

Yes, the P2 (SEC and B1G) are in a different economic class. They will be at 32 schools soon, and may not stop there. In a given year, it is quite possible - maybe even probable - that a school from one of the other power conferences could win the title. The key IMO will be finding a transcendent QB and keeping him healthy. A Patrick Mahomes can carry a team pretty far and footballs can take funny bounces.
(01-04-2023 10:40 AM)jgkojak Wrote: [ -> ]If TCU wins the CFP...

The Big 12 will be the reigning College BB and FB champs

Fans should be asking Oklahoma and Texas why these schools, with top facilities, budgets and recruitment, couldn't even make the B12 championship game... and now they're going to the SEC...

Once the 12 team playoff starts, it would show there is no reason a B1G or SEC team is the only one who can with a championship

With payouts being equal or slightly better in the B12, how long before the four-corners decide they have a better shot in the B12?

...give Max Duggan the Heisman Trophy.
(01-04-2023 02:28 PM)GarnetAndBlue Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-04-2023 10:40 AM)jgkojak Wrote: [ -> ]If TCU wins the CFP...

The Big 12 will be the reigning College BB and FB champs

Fans should be asking Oklahoma and Texas why these schools, with top facilities, budgets and recruitment, couldn't even make the B12 championship game... and now they're going to the SEC...

Once the 12 team playoff starts, it would show there is no reason a B1G or SEC team is the only one who can with a championship

With payouts being equal or slightly better in the B12, how long before the four-corners decide they have a better shot in the B12?

...give Max Duggan the Heisman Trophy.

Silly me. And I thought Max Dugan was a character in a Neil Simon play! What's in a name huh? I'm sure there is a g's worth of difference at work here.

I agree with Claw, TCU has already proven they can beat a well-funded P2 school, isn't that right Michigan? They have a demographic which would be important to some conference other than the SEC which has DFW covered with UT, A&M and OU. But whether they win against UGa or not, they've capitalized on enhancing their brand. Other than that, I'm not sure anything changes. T.C.U. is a tweener in the P5. They are small and private, but they function much larger than they really are. So, they are not like most in the G5, and they are not like most in the P5. What they can be is the "Duke" of college football. They can keep competitive programs going as a small private. Duke does it in hoops. Should TCU continue their trajectory they would be quite prized by a conference needing not only a brand contender, but by a private school for the FOI implications and for a piece of an important metro.
Waiting for SEC Shorts to show us how the CFP is viewed in Austin.



Nothing that happens in the CFP changes the Big12 media deal. The media deal is the driving force for realignment.

That said... Go TCU!

Big 12 brand needs the victory heading into the expanded CFP. Helps Recruiting! Helps build the Conference Brand and attracts sponsors!
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