(12-08-2022 11:03 PM)dannyb73 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-08-2022 05:16 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote: [ -> ] (12-08-2022 05:03 PM)Albert Flasher Wrote: [ -> ]Time to end this fantasy of hoping KSU football is relevant at the D1 level.
Reclassifying to Division II or III may be something to seriously to consider.
The unrealistic dream of competing with the big schools would go away.
Would not have all of this portal drama.
The majority of players would be playing for the joy of the game, not for dreams of playing in the NFL. And would probably hang around for four years & graduate.
I don't think I would really care if KSU would be playing DIII schools like Mt. Union, Baldwin Wallace, College of Wooster, etc. as opposed to suffering beat-downs from the likes of the P5 schools.
Attendance would not be impacted that much. It's not that great as it is. The marketing & publicity is mediocre anyway & would not see that changing.
Granted, revenue generated from scheduling the big-money games would go away, but maybe the money saved by the reclassification would offset this.
The other sports would remain D1.
Other institutions have this model & it works for them.
Need to face reality in these times. KSU cannot compete in D1 football.
One tiny flaw in your plan, in order to be D1 basketball you need to be D1 in football. BTW, maybe we won’t play for the national championship, but we certainly can compete in D1 football. 
How is that accurate? I can name plenty of schools that don't have D1 football but do basketball. Hell, all of the Big East pretty much.
They don’t have to have football, but if they did it would have to be D1. I was responding to the suggestion we drop to D2 or D3. Most of those Big East don’t have football, others play FCS which is still D1.
(12-08-2022 05:03 PM)Albert Flasher Wrote: [ -> ]Time to end this fantasy of hoping KSU football is relevant at the D1 level.
Reclassifying to Division II or III may be something to seriously to consider.
The unrealistic dream of competing with the big schools would go away.
Would not have all of this portal drama.
The majority of players would be playing for the joy of the game, not for dreams of playing in the NFL. And would probably hang around for four years & graduate.
I don't think I would really care if KSU would be playing DIII schools like Mt. Union, Baldwin Wallace, College of Wooster, etc. as opposed to suffering beat-downs from the likes of the P5 schools.
Attendance would not be impacted that much. It's not that great as it is. The marketing & publicity is mediocre anyway & would not see that changing.
Granted, revenue generated from scheduling the big-money games would go away, but maybe the money saved by the reclassification would offset this.
The other sports would remain D1.
Other institutions have this model & it works for them.
Need to face reality in these times. KSU cannot compete in D1 football.
At 41,000 students Kent has more students than 4 Big 10 schools. It is the larger school in the MAC. It would be unfair for Kent to to play much smaller schools in lower divisions.
(12-08-2022 03:02 PM)dannyb73 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-08-2022 02:37 PM)anti-zip Wrote: [ -> ] (12-08-2022 01:20 PM)dannyb73 Wrote: [ -> ]SHOCKER. Cephas is headed to Colorado.
I see his last tweet was the Colorado offered. I didn't see a report that he decided though.
Pretty wild that Georgia and Oklahoma both offered him. So basically we go and play the money games and if anyone plays well then they go 'Hey remember that name when it's portal season.'. I guess that can be a recruiting advantage to us...
He hasn't committed. I just can't believe he isn't going to follow Lewis.
Gotcha. I'm not sure I'm as convinced as you. I mean an offer from the #1 team in the country is probably hard to pass up as well.
Between the rash of players entering the portal and de-commits, I fear Kent State football might be about to enter yet another "Dark Age".
(12-09-2022 12:22 PM)Muskrat Wrote: [ -> ]Between the rash of players entering the portal and de-commits, I fear Kent State football might be about to enter yet another "Dark Age".
Which is exactly why they should’ve had a transition plan in place. We had none. Randall’s first big hire and I’m sure he wants to get it right, but by dragging this out he’s already failed.
(12-09-2022 01:07 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote: [ -> ] (12-09-2022 12:22 PM)Muskrat Wrote: [ -> ]Between the rash of players entering the portal and de-commits, I fear Kent State football might be about to enter yet another "Dark Age".
Which is exactly why they should’ve had a transition plan in place. We had none. Randall’s first big hire and I’m sure he wants to get it right, but by dragging this out he’s already failed.
Yup.
How long does everyone think this search will take? I'm going giving it a full month somewhere around Jan 9th.
(12-10-2022 11:51 AM)ilovegymnast Wrote: [ -> ]How long does everyone think this search will take? I'm going giving it a full month somewhere around Jan 9th.
Oh, about however long it takes for a lot more players to enter the portal and de-commit.
Cephas gone and now Walker. Guess he didn’t want to stick around to be WR1 when he doesn’t know whose calling plays, whose throwing passes to him and whose blocking for them.
I hate to be so cynical, but the football program's history of replacing a "successful" coach has not been good, to say the least. Since WWII only Dennis Fitzgerald who followed Don James had success. And the others didn't have the portal and the "one free transfer" rule to contend with. Should be interesting, but not in a good way.
At this point if Sowder is named the coach it's an absolute failure by the AD to wait this long. Walker waiting this long to enter really makes it seem like he would've preferred to stay here. I'd have to think he'll be getting some really big schools offering too.
(12-10-2022 09:12 PM)Muskrat Wrote: [ -> ]I hate to be so cynical, but the football program's history of replacing a "successful" coach has not been good, to say the least. Since WWII only Dennis Fitzgerald who followed Don James had success. And the others didn't have the portal and the "one free transfer" rule to contend with. Should be interesting, but not in a good way.
In fairness, we don't often have the task of replacing a successful coach because we haven't had many successful coaches.
(12-10-2022 09:33 PM)anti-zip Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2022 09:12 PM)Muskrat Wrote: [ -> ]I hate to be so cynical, but the football program's history of replacing a "successful" coach has not been good, to say the least. Since WWII only Dennis Fitzgerald who followed Don James had success. And the others didn't have the portal and the "one free transfer" rule to contend with. Should be interesting, but not in a good way.
In fairness, we don't often have the task of replacing a successful coach because we haven't had many successful coaches.
Good point.
(12-10-2022 09:33 PM)anti-zip Wrote: [ -> ]At this point if Sowder is named the coach it's an absolute failure by the AD to wait this long. Walker waiting this long to enter really makes it seem like he would've preferred to stay here. I'd have to think he'll be getting some really big schools offering too.
I was thinking the same thing, figuring Randale would drag his feet and then eventually choose Sowder thinking he did the right thing, but by taking so long he will be left with nothing which is where we practically are at this point. Only thing that can save the mass exodus is if he somehow selects an influential coach from a power school that brings some plug and play skill guys with him. Whoever takes over will need a bunch of pieces, but most certainly needs to start with QB1.
Hey the good news is the football schools in the Atlantic Sun and WAC are going to form a football only Conference and become the 11th major conference. Maybe we won’t be the worst major conference (I hope)!!
Quote:ANNAPOLIS, Md.—Naval Academy Director of Athletics Chet Gladchuk announced today that head football coach Ken Niumatalolo will not return for the 2023 season. Defensive coordinator Brian Newberry has been named head coach on an interim basis.
That wasn’t hard, some direction is better than no direction.
(12-10-2022 10:48 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2022 09:33 PM)anti-zip Wrote: [ -> ]At this point if Sowder is named the coach it's an absolute failure by the AD to wait this long. Walker waiting this long to enter really makes it seem like he would've preferred to stay here. I'd have to think he'll be getting some really big schools offering too.
I was thinking the same thing, figuring Randale would drag his feet and then eventually choose Sowder thinking he did the right thing, but by taking so long he will be left with nothing which is where we practically are at this point. Only thing that can save the mass exodus is if he somehow selects an influential coach from a power school that brings some plug and play skill guys with him. Whoever takes over will need a bunch of pieces, but most certainly needs to start with QB1.
I'm going to back track on this statement a bit. I've been thinking if we named Sowder the coach quickly we may have saved some of these transfers. But I think we have to see them commit to somewhere other than Colorado before I'll believe that. After seeing Sanders' comments to his new team where be straight up told them to hit the portal because he's bringing players with him. It sure seems like the plan is for he and Lewis to build a Jackson St Kent St hybrid in Colorado and us naming a coach wouldn't stop that.
But hey, on the bright side, I'm sure all the credits will transfer for these student athletes and they'll get their degrees on time.
Didn't Cephas commit to Penn State? I wonder how many recruits de-committed. I read the other day that it was three so far, plus one earlier in the season.
(12-11-2022 03:04 PM)anti-zip Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2022 10:48 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2022 09:33 PM)anti-zip Wrote: [ -> ]At this point if Sowder is named the coach it's an absolute failure by the AD to wait this long. Walker waiting this long to enter really makes it seem like he would've preferred to stay here. I'd have to think he'll be getting some really big schools offering too.
I was thinking the same thing, figuring Randale would drag his feet and then eventually choose Sowder thinking he did the right thing, but by taking so long he will be left with nothing which is where we practically are at this point. Only thing that can save the mass exodus is if he somehow selects an influential coach from a power school that brings some plug and play skill guys with him. Whoever takes over will need a bunch of pieces, but most certainly needs to start with QB1.
I'm going to back track on this statement a bit. I've been thinking if we named Sowder the coach quickly we may have saved some of these transfers. But I think we have to see them commit to somewhere other than Colorado before I'll believe that. After seeing Sanders' comments to his new team where be straight up told them to hit the portal because he's bringing players with him. It sure seems like the plan is for he and Lewis to build a Jackson St Kent St hybrid in Colorado and us naming a coach wouldn't stop that.
But hey, on the bright side, I'm sure all the credits will transfer for these student athletes and they'll get their degrees on time.
Other than Cephas who is Sanders really going to take at Colorado? Schlee isn’t going and I’m sure Sanders thinks he can do better than our guys at the positions they are looking to fill.
(12-11-2022 03:12 PM)Muskrat Wrote: [ -> ]Didn't Cephas commit to Penn State? I wonder how many recruits de-committed. I read the other day that it was three so far, plus one earlier in the season.
I don’t believe he committed, last news I saw was he was visiting Pitt on Thursday and Penn State on Friday but no commitment yet. As a local guy, not sure why you’d drag this out taking these visits when you have ND, Colorado, Georgia and everyone else offering. As for our de-commits, who knows as we have almost zero coverage on our program. If I was a commit I’d certainly de-commit unless they reached out to me with a succession plan in place and it sounded right because your verbal means nothing to whoever the coaching staff they eventually hire.