So they have their magical season and go unbeaten with a win over auburn in the sugar bowl at the end. Next year they aren't as good but an easy schedule allows them another undefeated season and then LSU puts them down in the fiesta bowl in a game that wasn't as competitive as the score.
Then the next year there is a definite regression. Such that they fall almost out of the top 25 by the end of the year.
And then the next year they are out of the top 25 completely.
Then the next year they are again out of the top 25. In fact the last few years they have been complete non-factors.
Then this year it's clear they aren't a good team. They don't have a qb. At all. As I type they are losing by 6 in the 4th quarter against a *bad* louisville team. Their defense looks super leaky(it's more louisville miscues that held them to 20 pts)
So with each year that passes and they get farther and farther from that magical unbeaten season, they get worse and worse each year.
I'm just not seeing it.....
But we've been told they are going to come in and be competitive right away.
To be fair UCF and other teams in the American lose their coach every few years and start over again often playing bowl games with a made up staff. It is hard to do and hopefully becomes a thing of the past.
They're in a talent rich area. Its just about having the right guy at the helm. Time will tell if Gus is up for the job or not.
(09-09-2022 10:09 PM)okiestate1979 Wrote: [ -> ]So they have their magical season and go unbeaten with a win over auburn in the sugar bowl at the end. Next year they aren't as good but an easy schedule allows them another undefeated season and then LSU puts them down in the fiesta bowl in a game that wasn't as competitive as the score.
Then the next year there is a definite regression. Such that they fall almost out of the top 25 by the end of the year.
And then the next year they are out of the top 25 completely.
Then the next year they are again out of the top 25. In fact the last few years they have been complete non-factors.
Then this year it's clear they aren't a good team. They don't have a qb. At all. As I type they are losing by 6 in the 4th quarter against a *bad* louisville team. Their defense looks super leaky(it's more louisville miscues that held them to 20 pts)
So with each year that passes and they get farther and farther from that magical unbeaten season, they get worse and worse each year.
I'm just not seeing it.....
At it again I see.
LOL
Y'all have never had to put together a winning program on a shoestring budget, and it shows.
That's the ONLY reason the 3 incoming AAC programs haven't sustained the kind of success they've reached.
And please, when you look back on your past B12 records, there was always only 1 or 2 teams that were salty enough to win the conference, and just because you played in the same conference, it doesn't automatically mean you're salty too.
Get your jabs in now while you can, but remember, its gonna be fair game to remind y'all about it when you lose to UH/Cincy/UCF bigly. Who's gonna be the first to eat their crow?
Yeah, I'm not going to punch UCF when they are down. One poor game doesn't make the season. Agree that the bigger issue is the head coach and the starting QB. More games are needed to really know. Ultimately with UCF in the B12 those issues are more easily fixable than playing in the AAC.
On a related note, Cincinnati, UCF and Houston have put up with constant coaching turnover as coaches use our programs as stepping stones to the bigger conferences and bigger paychecks. [There are a few exceptions in the example of coaching retreads.] In the span of two decades, Cincinnati went from Mark Dantonio [3 years], to Brian Kelly [3 years], to Butch Jones [3 years] to Tommy Tuberville [4 years] and to Luke Fickell [6th season]. Each coaching change can bring challenges to right the ship quickly vs retaining a good coach and having program stability.
Remember, UCF was without McKenzie Milton in the game vs. LSU, and Joe Burrow was starting to hit his stride late in the year. I think UCF had a really good showing in that bowl game considering what they were up against.
UCF has over 70,000 students, has solid and growing fan support, and is located in a large, fast-growing metro area in a huge state ripe with high school talent. If you don't see why the Big 12 wanted them, I can't help you.
(09-10-2022 08:38 AM)Coog Engineer Wrote: [ -> ]LOL
Y'all have never had to put together a winning program on a shoestring budget, and it shows.
That's the ONLY reason the 3 incoming AAC programs haven't sustained the kind of success they've reached.
And please, when you look back on your past B12 records, there was always only 1 or 2 teams that were salty enough to win the conference, and just because you played in the same conference, it doesn't automatically mean you're salty too.
Get your jabs in now while you can, but remember, its gonna be fair game to remind y'all about it when you lose to UH/Cincy/UCF bigly. Who's gonna be the first to eat their crow?
The bolded is a very pertinent and accurate take. I had an Ohio State fan the other day tell me Fickell isn't an elite coach because he hasn't won a natty -- as if anyone aside from MAYBE Nick Saban could pull off a national championship with AAC-level resources. A lot of P5 fans, and especially fans of blueblood programs, have no clue how much of a disadvantage schools like UCF, Houston, and Cincinnati have playing in the AAC. Shoestring athletic budgets, constant disrespect from the national media, coaches using your program as a stepping stone because we can't afford to pay them what the big schools pay, etc. It's a miracle our 3 programs have had as much success as we've had, and is a testament to doing more with less.
(09-12-2022 09:21 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2022 08:38 AM)Coog Engineer Wrote: [ -> ]LOL
Y'all have never had to put together a winning program on a shoestring budget, and it shows.
That's the ONLY reason the 3 incoming AAC programs haven't sustained the kind of success they've reached.
And please, when you look back on your past B12 records, there was always only 1 or 2 teams that were salty enough to win the conference, and just because you played in the same conference, it doesn't automatically mean you're salty too.
Get your jabs in now while you can, but remember, its gonna be fair game to remind y'all about it when you lose to UH/Cincy/UCF bigly. Who's gonna be the first to eat their crow?
The bolded is a very pertinent and accurate take. I had an Ohio State fan the other day tell me Fickell isn't an elite coach because he hasn't won a natty -- as if anyone aside from MAYBE Nick Saban could pull off a national championship with AAC-level resources. A lot of P5 fans, and especially fans of blueblood programs, have no clue how much of a disadvantage schools like UCF, Houston, and Cincinnati have playing in the AAC. Shoestring athletic budgets, constant disrespect from the national media, coaches using your program as a stepping stone because we can't afford to pay them what the big schools pay, etc. It's a miracle our 3 programs have had as much success as we've had, and is a testament to doing more with less.
Honestly I don't even think Saban could. He never even won the Big 10 when he was at Michigan State. His best Michigan State team went 9-2 (6-2 in the Big) with losses to Purdue (by 24) and Wisconsin (by 30).
We'll take our lumps. Our advantages extend beyond winning and that's why we got the add over every other G5 not already invited.
You all have seen what we bring, and I think our recent history speaks for itself. Let us focus on the conference transition.
(09-09-2022 10:09 PM)okiestate1979 Wrote: [ -> ]So they have their magical season and go unbeaten with a win over auburn in the sugar bowl at the end. Next year they aren't as good but an easy schedule allows them another undefeated season and then LSU puts them down in the fiesta bowl in a game that wasn't as competitive as the score.
Then the next year there is a definite regression. Such that they fall almost out of the top 25 by the end of the year.
And then the next year they are out of the top 25 completely.
Then the next year they are again out of the top 25. In fact the last few years they have been complete non-factors.
Then this year it's clear they aren't a good team. They don't have a qb. At all. As I type they are losing by 6 in the 4th quarter against a *bad* louisville team. Their defense looks super leaky(it's more louisville miscues that held them to 20 pts)
So with each year that passes and they get farther and farther from that magical unbeaten season, they get worse and worse each year.
I'm just not seeing it.....
This is a rather obvious troll post you wrote, but I'm going to ask you this question, anyway: If you don't want UCF, which G5 school would you rather pick up in our place?
(09-12-2022 08:01 PM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote: [ -> ] (09-09-2022 10:09 PM)okiestate1979 Wrote: [ -> ]So they have their magical season and go unbeaten with a win over auburn in the sugar bowl at the end. Next year they aren't as good but an easy schedule allows them another undefeated season and then LSU puts them down in the fiesta bowl in a game that wasn't as competitive as the score.
Then the next year there is a definite regression. Such that they fall almost out of the top 25 by the end of the year.
And then the next year they are out of the top 25 completely.
Then the next year they are again out of the top 25. In fact the last few years they have been complete non-factors.
Then this year it's clear they aren't a good team. They don't have a qb. At all. As I type they are losing by 6 in the 4th quarter against a *bad* louisville team. Their defense looks super leaky(it's more louisville miscues that held them to 20 pts)
So with each year that passes and they get farther and farther from that magical unbeaten season, they get worse and worse each year.
I'm just not seeing it.....
This is a rather obvious troll post you wrote, but I'm going to ask you this question, anyway: If you don't want UCF, which G5 school would you rather pick up in our place?
USF.
(09-12-2022 09:04 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-12-2022 08:01 PM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote: [ -> ] (09-09-2022 10:09 PM)okiestate1979 Wrote: [ -> ]So they have their magical season and go unbeaten with a win over auburn in the sugar bowl at the end. Next year they aren't as good but an easy schedule allows them another undefeated season and then LSU puts them down in the fiesta bowl in a game that wasn't as competitive as the score.
Then the next year there is a definite regression. Such that they fall almost out of the top 25 by the end of the year.
And then the next year they are out of the top 25 completely.
Then the next year they are again out of the top 25. In fact the last few years they have been complete non-factors.
Then this year it's clear they aren't a good team. They don't have a qb. At all. As I type they are losing by 6 in the 4th quarter against a *bad* louisville team. Their defense looks super leaky(it's more louisville miscues that held them to 20 pts)
So with each year that passes and they get farther and farther from that magical unbeaten season, they get worse and worse each year.
I'm just not seeing it.....
This is a rather obvious troll post you wrote, but I'm going to ask you this question, anyway: If you don't want UCF, which G5 school would you rather pick up in our place?
USF.
Haha I was thinking that the alleged OK state fan sounds a lot like a USF fan trolling.
(09-12-2022 09:04 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-12-2022 08:01 PM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote: [ -> ] (09-09-2022 10:09 PM)okiestate1979 Wrote: [ -> ]So they have their magical season and go unbeaten with a win over auburn in the sugar bowl at the end. Next year they aren't as good but an easy schedule allows them another undefeated season and then LSU puts them down in the fiesta bowl in a game that wasn't as competitive as the score.
Then the next year there is a definite regression. Such that they fall almost out of the top 25 by the end of the year.
And then the next year they are out of the top 25 completely.
Then the next year they are again out of the top 25. In fact the last few years they have been complete non-factors.
Then this year it's clear they aren't a good team. They don't have a qb. At all. As I type they are losing by 6 in the 4th quarter against a *bad* louisville team. Their defense looks super leaky(it's more louisville miscues that held them to 20 pts)
So with each year that passes and they get farther and farther from that magical unbeaten season, they get worse and worse each year.
I'm just not seeing it.....
This is a rather obvious troll post you wrote, but I'm going to ask you this question, anyway: If you don't want UCF, which G5 school would you rather pick up in our place?
USF.
I was thinking maybe Florida A&M over USF. FAMU has an on-campus stadium. USF borrows a stadium and, for some reason, has a pirate ship in it, which is rumored to be called "The Bullship."
Sorry, FAMU makes more sense for the Big XII than USF.
Beating Florida in the Gasparilla Bowl was good enough for me. Underestimate UCF at your own peril. Ames would love to have the resources that Orlando has. An embarrassment of riches.
(09-13-2022 02:04 PM)CYOWA Wrote: [ -> ]Beating Florida in the Gasparilla Bowl was good enough for me. Underestimate UCF at your own peril. Ames would love to have the resources that Orlando has. An embarrassment of riches.
We'll get there soon enough. You guys get your yucks in and pray our introducing act isn't like 2013
(09-12-2022 09:17 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: [ -> ]Remember, UCF was without McKenzie Milton in the game vs. LSU, and Joe Burrow was starting to hit his stride late in the year. I think UCF had a really good showing in that bowl game considering what they were up against.
UCF has over 70,000 students, has solid and growing fan support, and is located in a large, fast-growing metro area in a huge state ripe with high school talent. If you don't see why the Big 12 wanted them, I can't help you.
In the last 9 years UCF has made BCS/Access bowl 3 times beating Baylor in Fiesta, Auburn in the Peach bowl, and losing to LSU in the fiesta bowl. We are in a bit of a rebuild right now, with our 4th head coach in 9 years. Hopefully we will be able to keep head coaches better in a Power conference.
(09-09-2022 10:09 PM)okiestate1979 Wrote: [ -> ]So they have their magical season and go unbeaten with a win over auburn in the sugar bowl at the end. Next year they aren't as good but an easy schedule allows them another undefeated season and then LSU puts them down in the fiesta bowl in a game that wasn't as competitive as the score.
Then the next year there is a definite regression. Such that they fall almost out of the top 25 by the end of the year.
And then the next year they are out of the top 25 completely.
Then the next year they are again out of the top 25. In fact the last few years they have been complete non-factors.
Then this year it's clear they aren't a good team. They don't have a qb. At all. As I type they are losing by 6 in the 4th quarter against a *bad* louisville team. Their defense looks super leaky(it's more louisville miscues that held them to 20 pts)
So with each year that passes and they get farther and farther from that magical unbeaten season, they get worse and worse each year.
I'm just not seeing it.....
There is a reason why 3 different HC's & Coaching Staffs took UCF to 3 BCS/NYD6 Bowl Games...plus UCF's recent history for playing for and/or winning Conf Titles in 2005, 2007, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2017 and 2018.
Foundation is there...but yes some pieces are missing (QB) and it will be a BIG step up for UCF in 2023 moving to the Big 12...but that move has already paid off on the recruiting trail, enabling UCF winning battles vs some top p5 programs that they wouldn't have several years ago if UCF was stuck in the AAC.
Future is bright...Enjoy the Journey.
(09-14-2022 11:26 AM)KnightLight Wrote: [ -> ] (09-09-2022 10:09 PM)okiestate1979 Wrote: [ -> ]So they have their magical season and go unbeaten with a win over auburn in the sugar bowl at the end. Next year they aren't as good but an easy schedule allows them another undefeated season and then LSU puts them down in the fiesta bowl in a game that wasn't as competitive as the score.
Then the next year there is a definite regression. Such that they fall almost out of the top 25 by the end of the year.
And then the next year they are out of the top 25 completely.
Then the next year they are again out of the top 25. In fact the last few years they have been complete non-factors.
Then this year it's clear they aren't a good team. They don't have a qb. At all. As I type they are losing by 6 in the 4th quarter against a *bad* louisville team. Their defense looks super leaky(it's more louisville miscues that held them to 20 pts)
So with each year that passes and they get farther and farther from that magical unbeaten season, they get worse and worse each year.
I'm just not seeing it.....
There is a reason why 3 different HC's & Coaching Staffs took UCF to 3 BCSNYD6 Bowl Games...plus UCF's recent history for playing for and/or winning Conf Titles in 2005, 2007, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2017 and 2018.
Foundation is there...but yes some pieces are missing (QB) and it will be a BIG step up for UCF in 2023 moving to the Big 12...but that move has already paid off on the recruiting trail, enabling UCF winning battles vs some top p5 programs that they wouldn't have several years ago if UCF was stuck in the AAC.
Future is bright...Enjoy the Journey.
Perhaps Scott Frost will return.