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Why are you posting this on a WMU board? There are millions of pro-life people including pretty much all Catholics like himself. Stop being a divisive partisan.

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Then I certainly hope he agrees with the people who believe in choice, to have the courage of their convictions and stand up for them as well.

GRBronco,
This article appeared in the Free Press, are they being divisive?

Posting it FYI.

Didn't make any comment one way or the other than that.

You assume too much, GR.

I will say this - you don't see too many CFB coaches expressing opinions publicly on such hot-button topics.

(07-19-2022 02:09 PM)MajorHoople Wrote: [ -> ]Posting it FYI.

Didn't make any comment one way or the other than that.

You assume too much, GR.

I will say this - you don't see too many CFB coaches expressing opinions publicly on such hot-button topics.

Most somewhat middle of the road Americans are afraid to publicly comment on much of anything. Too afraid to come home to their house / office ransacked or burned.
Both far left & far right are crazy folks.

Good for him.

Except for mass murderers and those who are for Capital Punishment -

Most Americans are Pro-Life.

They're just not all Pro-Choice.

Neat.

I would bet he isn't pro-life. Just pro-fetus, pro-embryo, and pro-zygote. Most Republicans don't seem to care what happens to anybody after they're born.

(07-19-2022 02:01 PM)GRBRONCO Wrote: [ -> ]Why are you posting this on a WMU board? There are millions of pro-life people including pretty much all Catholics like himself. Stop being a divisive partisan.

Who forced you to click the link? For such an intelligent person, you certainly doth protest too much.

Being Catholic is no excuse for supporting increasing the odds of women dying in childbirth. That's not very pro-life policy, is it?

Not very pro life to send death threats to doctors who save the lives of 10 y/o rape victims, is it?

Not gonna wade too deep, but let's be clear. The bible says nothing about abortion. Jesus said nothing about abortion. Old Jewish scripture says nothing about abortion. All these religious texts do say life begins at first breath. As for US policy, abortion was common until the mid 1800s (it was a decision between women and their midwives, and was seen as acceptable until quickening, about halfway through pregnancy). Then, the modern male dominated medical system evolved at the same time as an evangelical movement and led to a movement to ban abortion. Religious rationales for banning abortion are political and about power, not based on actual judeo-christian scripture.

Medical students at the University of Michigan protested the keynote speech of Dr. Kristin Collier at their White Coat Ceremony over her pro-life views.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/university-of...t-ceremony

Abortion is a tool by the patriarchy to not care for their baby.

Wonder when we'll find out how the state Supreme Court will rule on the old law.

Pono, the religious right started getting involved b/c the atheistic Left advocated the break up of the family: The Bible doesn’t mention it b/c you married young & you were stuck to whoever you married. There wasn’t a need for abortion except for the life of the mother – which all these old state laws had an exception for. & which the Michigan one had too. The Left said no, screw the family, we want as much sex as we can with however many people we can. This led to an increase in abortions. Abortion was a key issue for the early feminist movement (long before it took off here, in Europe) who hated the idea of marriage. The Left preaches the Right didn’t get involved until Roe passed & politicized it all, but this is false b/c as we’ve seen w/ the overturning of Roe, many states already had pro-life laws in the books. Early church fathers, who would've had direct teaching from Jesus & the apostles, & had been Jews, rejected it as well.

Also, we don't know JH's political affiliation NIU

(07-24-2022 05:05 PM)pono Wrote: [ -> ]Not gonna wade too deep, but let's be clear. The bible says nothing about abortion. Jesus said nothing about abortion. Old Jewish scripture says nothing about abortion. All these religious texts do say life begins at first breath. As for US policy, abortion was common until the mid 1800s (it was a decision between women and their midwives, and was seen as acceptable until quickening, about halfway through pregnancy). Then, the modern male dominated medical system evolved at the same time as an evangelical movement and led to a movement to ban abortion. Religious rationales for banning abortion are political and about power, not based on actual judeo-christian scripture.

Nothing about abortion, except the killing of innocents is seen as an abomination.Proverbs 6:16-19.
The life beginning with initial breath is specifically about Adam. Later in Genesis, man and woman are told to go forth
and multiply. Once joined they are one.

(07-25-2022 10:03 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-24-2022 05:05 PM)pono Wrote: [ -> ]Not gonna wade too deep, but let's be clear. The bible says nothing about abortion. Jesus said nothing about abortion. Old Jewish scripture says nothing about abortion. All these religious texts do say life begins at first breath. As for US policy, abortion was common until the mid 1800s (it was a decision between women and their midwives, and was seen as acceptable until quickening, about halfway through pregnancy). Then, the modern male dominated medical system evolved at the same time as an evangelical movement and led to a movement to ban abortion. Religious rationales for banning abortion are political and about power, not based on actual judeo-christian scripture.

Nothing about abortion, except the killing of innocents is seen as an abomination.Proverbs 6:16-19.
The life beginning with initial breath is specifically about Adam. Later in Genesis, man and woman are told to go forth
and multiply. Once joined they are one.

Majority of people who get off on destroying fetuses don't believe in the bible.

(07-25-2022 10:15 AM)GRBRONCO Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-25-2022 10:03 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-24-2022 05:05 PM)pono Wrote: [ -> ]Not gonna wade too deep, but let's be clear. The bible says nothing about abortion. Jesus said nothing about abortion. Old Jewish scripture says nothing about abortion. All these religious texts do say life begins at first breath. As for US policy, abortion was common until the mid 1800s (it was a decision between women and their midwives, and was seen as acceptable until quickening, about halfway through pregnancy). Then, the modern male dominated medical system evolved at the same time as an evangelical movement and led to a movement to ban abortion. Religious rationales for banning abortion are political and about power, not based on actual judeo-christian scripture.

Nothing about abortion, except the killing of innocents is seen as an abomination.Proverbs 6:16-19.
The life beginning with initial breath is specifically about Adam. Later in Genesis, man and woman are told to go forth
and multiply. Once joined they are one.

Majority of people who get off on destroying fetuses don't believe in the bible.

I usually avoid your bull****, but i need to step in here. nobody "gets off on" abortion. As somebody who has unfortunately had to make that call along with my wife due a non-viable (no heartbeat) fetus, not part of that is easy, exciting, or enjoyable at all. You should be ashamed of yourself for half your comments on here, but that one was a new low. Go **** yourself.

(07-25-2022 10:55 AM)SilentStryk09 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-25-2022 10:15 AM)GRBRONCO Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-25-2022 10:03 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-24-2022 05:05 PM)pono Wrote: [ -> ]Not gonna wade too deep, but let's be clear. The bible says nothing about abortion. Jesus said nothing about abortion. Old Jewish scripture says nothing about abortion. All these religious texts do say life begins at first breath. As for US policy, abortion was common until the mid 1800s (it was a decision between women and their midwives, and was seen as acceptable until quickening, about halfway through pregnancy). Then, the modern male dominated medical system evolved at the same time as an evangelical movement and led to a movement to ban abortion. Religious rationales for banning abortion are political and about power, not based on actual judeo-christian scripture.

Nothing about abortion, except the killing of innocents is seen as an abomination.Proverbs 6:16-19.
The life beginning with initial breath is specifically about Adam. Later in Genesis, man and woman are told to go forth
and multiply. Once joined they are one.

Majority of people who get off on destroying fetuses don't believe in the bible.

I usually avoid your bull****, but i need to step in here. nobody "gets off on" abortion. As somebody who has unfortunately had to make that call along with my wife due a non-viable (no heartbeat) fetus, not part of that is easy, exciting, or enjoyable at all. You should be ashamed of yourself for half your comments on here, but that one was a new low. Go **** yourself.

Sorry that happened to your family, sounds like you had no choice and needed a medical procedure for your wife's health. I don't consider that a voluntary abortion and should never be illegal. My wife and I went through 6 years of miscarriages before it finally worked. Why you getting so worked up? You clicked on a thread about abortion on the internet LOL

Maybe "get off" was a poor choice of words, perhaps "enthusiastically support with passion" would have been better.

(07-25-2022 11:26 AM)GRBRONCO Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-25-2022 10:55 AM)SilentStryk09 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-25-2022 10:15 AM)GRBRONCO Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-25-2022 10:03 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-24-2022 05:05 PM)pono Wrote: [ -> ]Not gonna wade too deep, but let's be clear. The bible says nothing about abortion. Jesus said nothing about abortion. Old Jewish scripture says nothing about abortion. All these religious texts do say life begins at first breath. As for US policy, abortion was common until the mid 1800s (it was a decision between women and their midwives, and was seen as acceptable until quickening, about halfway through pregnancy). Then, the modern male dominated medical system evolved at the same time as an evangelical movement and led to a movement to ban abortion. Religious rationales for banning abortion are political and about power, not based on actual judeo-christian scripture.

Nothing about abortion, except the killing of innocents is seen as an abomination.Proverbs 6:16-19.
The life beginning with initial breath is specifically about Adam. Later in Genesis, man and woman are told to go forth
and multiply. Once joined they are one.

Majority of people who get off on destroying fetuses don't believe in the bible.

I usually avoid your bull****, but i need to step in here. nobody "gets off on" abortion. As somebody who has unfortunately had to make that call along with my wife due a non-viable (no heartbeat) fetus, not part of that is easy, exciting, or enjoyable at all. You should be ashamed of yourself for half your comments on here, but that one was a new low. Go **** yourself.

Sorry that happened to your family, sounds like you had no choice and needed a medical procedure for your wife's health. I don't consider that a voluntary abortion and should never be illegal. My wife and I went through 6 years of miscarriages before it finally worked. Why you getting so worked up? You clicked on a thread about abortion on the internet LOL

Maybe "get off" was a poor choice of words, perhaps "enthusiastically support with passion" would have been better.

When you have abortion bans with no exceptions for basically anything, is it surprising that people would get upset? There are people going through difficult situations which the morons making these decisions have not even considered - or if they did consider it, aren't thoughtful enough to be concerned since it hasn't affected themselves personally. This is what is called a theocracy - when religious decisions are overcoming common sense.

(07-25-2022 10:03 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-24-2022 05:05 PM)pono Wrote: [ -> ]Not gonna wade too deep, but let's be clear. The bible says nothing about abortion. Jesus said nothing about abortion. Old Jewish scripture says nothing about abortion. All these religious texts do say life begins at first breath. As for US policy, abortion was common until the mid 1800s (it was a decision between women and their midwives, and was seen as acceptable until quickening, about halfway through pregnancy). Then, the modern male dominated medical system evolved at the same time as an evangelical movement and led to a movement to ban abortion. Religious rationales for banning abortion are political and about power, not based on actual judeo-christian scripture.

Nothing about abortion, except the killing of innocents is seen as an abomination.Proverbs 6:16-19.
The life beginning with initial breath is specifically about Adam. Later in Genesis, man and woman are told to go forth
and multiply. Once joined they are one.

exactly, nothing about abortion. innocents refers to living breathing humans, not fertilized eggs in a woman's womb. and I'm not suggesting we become theocratic and have biblical law. just that it's a real stretch to say scripture can guide our thinking on abortion.