07-11-2022, 09:01 AM
Great in-depth article here by ESPN.com on the move to the Big Ten by USC and UCLA.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...s-followed
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...s-followed
07-11-2022, 09:01 AM
07-11-2022, 09:06 AM
It was a nice summary of the last few months and what is being considered in the next few.
07-11-2022, 11:11 AM
GREAT READ
Some easy take aways:
Multiple sources told ESPN that USC and UCLA approached the Big Ten about membership, not the other way around. The Big Ten wasn't active in pursuing expansion candidates and had been focused on its media rights negotiations.
The Los Angeles Times reported in January that UCLA's athletic department posted a record $62.5 million deficit for the 2021 fiscal year, bringing the department's three-year debt to $102.8 million. An inability to host fans during the 2020-21 football and basketball seasons, coupled with limited revenue from playing at the Rose Bowl and Under Armour reneging on a 15-year, $280 million apparel sponsorship agreement left UCLA in dire financial straits.
"They're in such tough shape financially," a Power 5 athletic director said. "They were desperate."
"You have to think UCLA didn't do this in a vacuum without the [UC] regents knowing," a Pac-12 source said.
"Our best option is to keep this league together," a Pac-12 athletic director said. "What the next move is will determine the future of the league. We're all unified to get there. Everyone wants this thing to work."
ACC
ACC Commish, Phillips held an emergency call July 1, first with ACC presidents and then athletic directors, to once again go over a long-term strategy. Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick was on the call because the Irish have all their sports aside from football inside the ACC.
Whether presidents feel differently now about a possible partnership with the schools that remain in the Pac-12 remains to be seen. The league has had two more calls since July 1, with a number of scenarios under discussion. In addition, the ACC has fielded calls from interested schools, including Memphis, one source said. Multiple sources in the league kept coming back to the same central question: "Where is the financial value?"
BIG12
"Don't sleep on the new Big 12," the source said. "I can tell you that right now."
Beyond the other Power 5 conferences
As one Mountain West athletic director put it, "Every one of us would jump at the chance to be in the Pac-12."
One high-ranking Mountain West source outlined a scenario -- realistic or not -- in which the Pac-12 falls apart. In one hypothetical, he asked what would happen if Oregon and Washington were to also depart for the Big Ten? "Would the Arizona schools, Colorado and Utah go to the Big 12? Then what? I could see Washington State and Oregon State in the Mountain West. They would be good fits."
"I can think of 10 different scenarios right now with 10 different outcomes," one Power 5 AD said.
My Current Predication
PAC10 stays at 10 and signs deal with ESPN, BIG12 signs with FOX or CBS or NBC an the question I have? Does BIG12 stay with ESPN+ or do they severe ties.
Some easy take aways:
Multiple sources told ESPN that USC and UCLA approached the Big Ten about membership, not the other way around. The Big Ten wasn't active in pursuing expansion candidates and had been focused on its media rights negotiations.
The Los Angeles Times reported in January that UCLA's athletic department posted a record $62.5 million deficit for the 2021 fiscal year, bringing the department's three-year debt to $102.8 million. An inability to host fans during the 2020-21 football and basketball seasons, coupled with limited revenue from playing at the Rose Bowl and Under Armour reneging on a 15-year, $280 million apparel sponsorship agreement left UCLA in dire financial straits.
"They're in such tough shape financially," a Power 5 athletic director said. "They were desperate."
"You have to think UCLA didn't do this in a vacuum without the [UC] regents knowing," a Pac-12 source said.
"Our best option is to keep this league together," a Pac-12 athletic director said. "What the next move is will determine the future of the league. We're all unified to get there. Everyone wants this thing to work."
ACC
ACC Commish, Phillips held an emergency call July 1, first with ACC presidents and then athletic directors, to once again go over a long-term strategy. Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick was on the call because the Irish have all their sports aside from football inside the ACC.
Whether presidents feel differently now about a possible partnership with the schools that remain in the Pac-12 remains to be seen. The league has had two more calls since July 1, with a number of scenarios under discussion. In addition, the ACC has fielded calls from interested schools, including Memphis, one source said. Multiple sources in the league kept coming back to the same central question: "Where is the financial value?"
BIG12
"Don't sleep on the new Big 12," the source said. "I can tell you that right now."
Beyond the other Power 5 conferences
As one Mountain West athletic director put it, "Every one of us would jump at the chance to be in the Pac-12."
One high-ranking Mountain West source outlined a scenario -- realistic or not -- in which the Pac-12 falls apart. In one hypothetical, he asked what would happen if Oregon and Washington were to also depart for the Big Ten? "Would the Arizona schools, Colorado and Utah go to the Big 12? Then what? I could see Washington State and Oregon State in the Mountain West. They would be good fits."
"I can think of 10 different scenarios right now with 10 different outcomes," one Power 5 AD said.
My Current Predication
PAC10 stays at 10 and signs deal with ESPN, BIG12 signs with FOX or CBS or NBC an the question I have? Does BIG12 stay with ESPN+ or do they severe ties.
07-11-2022, 01:34 PM
(07-11-2022 11:11 AM)GTFletch Wrote: [ -> ]GREAT READ
Some easy take aways:
Multiple sources told ESPN that USC and UCLA approached the Big Ten about membership, not the other way around. The Big Ten wasn't active in pursuing expansion candidates and had been focused on its media rights negotiations.
The Los Angeles Times reported in January that UCLA's athletic department posted a record $62.5 million deficit for the 2021 fiscal year, bringing the department's three-year debt to $102.8 million. An inability to host fans during the 2020-21 football and basketball seasons, coupled with limited revenue from playing at the Rose Bowl and Under Armour reneging on a 15-year, $280 million apparel sponsorship agreement left UCLA in dire financial straits.
"They're in such tough shape financially," a Power 5 athletic director said. "They were desperate."
"You have to think UCLA didn't do this in a vacuum without the [UC] regents knowing," a Pac-12 source said.
"Our best option is to keep this league together," a Pac-12 athletic director said. "What the next move is will determine the future of the league. We're all unified to get there. Everyone wants this thing to work."
ACC
ACC Commish, Phillips held an emergency call July 1, first with ACC presidents and then athletic directors, to once again go over a long-term strategy. Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick was on the call because the Irish have all their sports aside from football inside the ACC.
Whether presidents feel differently now about a possible partnership with the schools that remain in the Pac-12 remains to be seen. The league has had two more calls since July 1, with a number of scenarios under discussion. In addition, the ACC has fielded calls from interested schools, including Memphis, one source said. Multiple sources in the league kept coming back to the same central question: "Where is the financial value?"
BIG12
"Don't sleep on the new Big 12," the source said. "I can tell you that right now."
Beyond the other Power 5 conferences
As one Mountain West athletic director put it, "Every one of us would jump at the chance to be in the Pac-12."
One high-ranking Mountain West source outlined a scenario -- realistic or not -- in which the Pac-12 falls apart. In one hypothetical, he asked what would happen if Oregon and Washington were to also depart for the Big Ten? "Would the Arizona schools, Colorado and Utah go to the Big 12? Then what? I could see Washington State and Oregon State in the Mountain West. They would be good fits."
"I can think of 10 different scenarios right now with 10 different outcomes," one Power 5 AD said.
My Current Predication
PAC10 stays at 10 and signs deal with ESPN, BIG12 signs with FOX or CBS or NBC an the question I have? Does BIG12 stay with ESPN+ or do they severe ties.
I am tyring to read between the lines and this is what I got:
The Pac: the best is keep the league together. It appers that an expansion is not an option for the Pac.
The ACC: the ACC seems to be in a position to expand if ESPN approves:
In addition to those calls, informal conversations have been going on between schools and other leagues as a way to gauge both their value and where future expansion might be headed. Nothing appears to be imminent. What makes officials in the league office believe they are in a position of strength is its grant of rights, which ties member schools to the ACC through 2036.
The B12: the B12 wants to expand and tries to make a case that B12 is a better option than the ACC.
One league source pointed to new media markets with the additions of Cincinnati and UCF, its reach across three time zones and the addition of an independent in BYU that makes the league more appealing as a landing spot for some of the Pac-12 schools as compared to the ACC.