If the PAC ends up dissolving, what programing will ESPN put on at 10:30 PM Eastern time slot?
Doubt they want to weekly have the Mountain West.
Could they bid for a BIG 12 game for that time period? Yes, but if the BIG 12 goes elsewhere completely, then what?
My guess is that SEC/ESPN is considering offering Oregon and Washington. They could schedule one of them to be home every week. Not ideal, but a lot of people would watch an eastern time zone SEC school against Oregon or Washington at 10:30 on a Saturday night.
Any other ideas?
Fox will now be able to have USC and UCLA games late night on FS1.
I wonder if ESPN would be better off with a games kicking off at Noon, 4:00 PM, and 8:00 PM Eastern and just running a Post-Game show or Sports center following the last game, especially since games are closer to 4 hours these days. Note that Hawaii could feasibly start at Midnight Eastern for their home games.
If you insist on a quadrupleheader, finding a game to kick off at 11 AM Eastern would make a 9:30 PM Eastern kickoff possible. That gives you flexibility with Central Time Zone schools - think Texas A&M at a school like Washington or Oregon.
10:30 game is better than anything else they have.
They will find teams to play.
Now these aren't nearly as lucrative as the earlier slots, but they are exposure.
I don't know I'm pretty much done with football by that time.
The 11am Central Kick-off times was one of the reasons Oklahoma wanted to jump to The SEC
I think ESPN wants the ACC and SEC to raid Big 12, PAC 12 and MWC teams now. Strike while it is hot to make it three super conference. They don't want ACC be torn apart because it is their inventory.
(07-08-2022 07:10 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know I'm pretty much done with football by that time.
Same even at 930p cst
(07-08-2022 06:05 PM)SMUfan Wrote: [ -> ]If the PAC ends up dissolving, what programing will ESPN put on at 10:30 PM Eastern time slot?
Doubt they want to weekly have the Mountain West.
Could they bid for a BIG 12 game for that time period? Yes, but if the BIG 12 goes elsewhere completely, then what?
My guess is that SEC/ESPN is considering offering Oregon and Washington. They could schedule one of them to be home every week. Not ideal, but a lot of people would watch an eastern time zone SEC school against Oregon or Washington at 10:30 on a Saturday night.
Any other ideas?
Fox will now be able to have USC and UCLA games late night on FS1.
PAC isn't dissolving no matter what happens in realignment. The NCAA tourney shares alone will keep that thing chugging along aka the Big East/AAC.
(07-08-2022 07:47 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2022 06:05 PM)SMUfan Wrote: [ -> ]If the PAC ends up dissolving, what programing will ESPN put on at 10:30 PM Eastern time slot?
Doubt they want to weekly have the Mountain West.
Could they bid for a BIG 12 game for that time period? Yes, but if the BIG 12 goes elsewhere completely, then what?
My guess is that SEC/ESPN is considering offering Oregon and Washington. They could schedule one of them to be home every week. Not ideal, but a lot of people would watch an eastern time zone SEC school against Oregon or Washington at 10:30 on a Saturday night.
Any other ideas?
Fox will now be able to have USC and UCLA games late night on FS1.
PAC isn't dissolving no matter what happens in realignment. The NCAA tourney shares alone will keep that thing chugging along aka the Big East/AAC.
Speed up the game. 30 minute quarters - running time. Clock only stops within last two minutes of each half. 3-minute timeout after each change of possession after 15 minutes. 3 minutes at end of 1st and 3rd quarters. 20 minute half.
Game is over in 3 hours. Start games a 12, 3, 6, and 9 ET; 10, 1, 4, and 7 MT.
Probably USC/UCLA games.
Followed by leftover PAC12 member's games.
Those schools aren’t shutting down. They will just be part of different P5 conferences. You’ll be watching late game telecasts from the same stadiums in the west as you always have.
(07-08-2022 10:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]Those schools aren’t shutting down. They will just be part of different P5 conferences. You’ll be watching late game telecasts from the same stadiums in the west as you always have.
USC & UCLA were ESPN. Now they will be Fox.
My question was about ESPN.
MWC non-conference games vs power opponents, BYU home games, or former PAC (non-B1G) home games.
(07-08-2022 10:23 PM)SMUfan Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2022 10:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]Those schools aren’t shutting down. They will just be part of different P5 conferences. You’ll be watching late game telecasts from the same stadiums in the west as you always have.
USC & UCLA were ESPN. Now they will be Fox.
My question was about ESPN.
We only know that FOX is a major Big10 partner in the next deal. We don’t know that ESPN is shut out of Big10 content at this time. We certainly don’t know where the rest of the Pac12 will land. Right now, they could end up on a rebuilt Pac12, the ACC, or the Big12. ESPN could end up owning the rights to all 3 before this is over. No way to know right now.
(07-08-2022 06:05 PM)SMUfan Wrote: [ -> ]If the PAC ends up dissolving, what programing will ESPN put on at 10:30 PM Eastern time slot?
Doubt they want to weekly have the Mountain West.
Could they bid for a BIG 12 game for that time period? Yes, but if the BIG 12 goes elsewhere completely, then what?
My guess is that SEC/ESPN is considering offering Oregon and Washington. They could schedule one of them to be home every week. Not ideal, but a lot of people would watch an eastern time zone SEC school against Oregon or Washington at 10:30 on a Saturday night.
Any other ideas?
Fox will now be able to have USC and UCLA games late night on FS1.
Assuming ESPN and the PAC agree on a contract, then not much will change. The 10:30 time slot on ESPN will belong to the PAC. The 10:30 time slot averaged 1.37 million viewers last season on ESPN, with a high of 1.991 million in the Washington State-Oregon game and a low of 799,000 in the UCLA-Arizona game. So it has value. Arizona and Arizona State night games will dominate in the early season, because they have to play at night early in the season.
Non-conference games are usually shown the first three weeks. For example, the first week of the 2022 season has Boise State at Oregon on ESPN at 10:30. In week 2, Mississippi State is at Arizona in a game that starts at 11:00pm EST, but is on FS1. In the future, that game would be on ESPN, which gets better ratings.
There will be games on ABC, because there will be conference games and non-conference games that ABC will want to televise. For example, in 2024 Ohio State will play at Washington and ABC will want that game on their network. I expect FOX to put some UCLA and USC games on the FOX network in the 10:30 hour. They televised the Stanford-USC game on FOX last year at 10:30 and this year the Fresno State-USC in Week 3 will be on FOX at 10:30pm. FS1 ratings are not competitive with ESPN.
(07-08-2022 10:30 PM)BePcr07 Wrote: [ -> ]MWC non-conference games vs power opponents, BYU home games, or former PAC (non-B1G) home games.
MWC non-conf home games are signed with CBS. BYU will be BIG 12 which will probably not be with ESPN. Former PAC will not be a draw.
(07-08-2022 11:11 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2022 10:23 PM)SMUfan Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2022 10:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]Those schools aren’t shutting down. They will just be part of different P5 conferences. You’ll be watching late game telecasts from the same stadiums in the west as you always have.
USC & UCLA were ESPN. Now they will be Fox.
My question was about ESPN.
We only know that FOX is a major Big10 partner in the next deal. We don’t know that ESPN is shut out of Big10 content at this time. We certainly don’t know where the rest of the Pac12 will land. Right now, they could end up on a rebuilt Pac12, the ACC, or the Big12. ESPN could end up owning the rights to all 3 before this is over. No way to know right now.
Right! No way to know. If SEC gets Oregon & Washington then you know that ESPN has the rights.
(07-08-2022 11:13 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2022 06:05 PM)SMUfan Wrote: [ -> ]If the PAC ends up dissolving, what programing will ESPN put on at 10:30 PM Eastern time slot?
Doubt they want to weekly have the Mountain West.
Could they bid for a BIG 12 game for that time period? Yes, but if the BIG 12 goes elsewhere completely, then what?
My guess is that SEC/ESPN is considering offering Oregon and Washington. They could schedule one of them to be home every week. Not ideal, but a lot of people would watch an eastern time zone SEC school against Oregon or Washington at 10:30 on a Saturday night.
Any other ideas?
Fox will now be able to have USC and UCLA games late night on FS1.
Assuming ESPN and the PAC agree on a contract, then not much will change. The 10:30 time slot on ESPN will belong to the PAC. The 10:30 time slot averaged 1.37 million viewers last season on ESPN, with a high of 1.991 million in the Washington State-Oregon game and a low of 799,000 in the UCLA-Arizona game. So it has value. Arizona and Arizona State night games will dominate in the early season, because they have to play at night early in the season.
Non-conference games are usually shown the first three weeks. For example, the first week of the 2022 season has Boise State at Oregon on ESPN at 10:30. In week 2, Mississippi State is at Arizona in a game that starts at 11:00pm EST, but is on FS1. In the future, that game would be on ESPN, which gets better ratings.
There will be games on ABC, because there will be conference games and non-conference games that ABC will want to televise. For example, in 2024 Ohio State will play at Washington and ABC will want that game on their network. I expect FOX to put some UCLA and USC games on the FOX network in the 10:30 hour. They televised the Stanford-USC game on FOX last year at 10:30 and this year the Fresno State-USC in Week 3 will be on FOX at 10:30pm. FS1 ratings are not competitive with ESPN.
As I said at the beginning, "If the PAC ends up dissolving".
(07-08-2022 10:23 PM)SMUfan Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2022 10:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]Those schools aren’t shutting down. They will just be part of different P5 conferences. You’ll be watching late game telecasts from the same stadiums in the west as you always have.
USC & UCLA were ESPN. Now they will be Fox.
My question was about ESPN.
The Big Ten's broadcasting rights could still end up with ESPN.
Fox gets the main package, secondary package is going to either NBC,CBS, and/or ESPN
I can't imagine Ohio State, Michigan, or Penn State (or Alabama, Georgia, Florida, or Notre Dame in terms of non conference opponents) will ever play UCLA or USC on FOX or ESPN in the graveyard shift (to almost 50 year old me it's the graveyard shift). Maybe UCLA and USC will play each other in the time slot although I couldn't find a UCLA-USC game in the late slot in the last five years. My guess is UCLA or USC will play other west coast non conference games in the late slot, maybe a Big Ten game vs. an unpopular Big Ten opponent and maybe a Central Time Zone more likely than an Eastern Time Zone one. If you're FOX or ESPN, why make it undesirable for one of your fan bases to want to watch your game? Of course you can say the same thing when FOX made Oregon-Ohio State a Big Nooner and it was 9am in Oregon but most people are awake at 9am on Saturday, most people are not awake after midnight (and those that are up are probably out doing stuff and not watching football). I'm not a West Coast guy but I'm typing this before 9am and if this was fall and Penn State played Rutgers at 9am, sign me up! I remember watching the Williams players and Pete Sampras and Andre Agassi play during Breakfast at Wimbledon. If I actually knew either of the two women playing in this year's final, I'd probably watch. I might watch Novak Djokovic live tomorrow. If he had played Rafa Nadal, I definitely would.