Get ready for another shuffle.
I wonder what the possibility of PAC12 raiding BIGXII and then BIGXII raiding AAC thus UAB somehow ends up in BIGXII.
This shuffle will be just as large and chaotic as the Oklahoma and Texas move.
Or does BIGXII try to raid PAC12?
(06-30-2022 12:46 PM)blazerblazer Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder what the possibility of PAC12 raiding BIGXII and then BIGXII raiding AAC thus UAB somehow ends up in BIGXII.
This shuffle will be just as large and chaotic as the Oklahoma and Texas move.
Expectation is for the Big10 to expand even after USC-UCLA...
I believe we are witnessing the creation of a mega league of 2 conferences maybe 20 teams each. Everyone else will be the G5 essentially. This conference is the football equivalent of the G-league
(06-30-2022 01:34 PM)Golden-Ticket Wrote: [ -> ]I believe we are witnessing the creation of a mega league of 2 conferences maybe 20 teams each. Everyone else will be the G5 essentially. This conference is the football equivalent of the G-league
Not just everyone else in the G5- there are multiple schools in P5 conferences that won't be involved in if there becomes a mega league of 2 conferences. There are schools in the ACC, PAC12, and BIGXII that will be left behind because they are not blue bloods or have the money.
Oh the PAC 12 is pretty terrible with the exception of Stanford, Utah, Oregon, and Washington. The rest kinda stink or are not very desirable to be picked up. It’s going to be sad to watch college football collapse. Can’t wait to watch a Rutgers vs. USC game at 11 p.m.
(06-30-2022 02:01 PM)blazerblazer Wrote: [ -> ] (06-30-2022 01:34 PM)Golden-Ticket Wrote: [ -> ]I believe we are witnessing the creation of a mega league of 2 conferences maybe 20 teams each. Everyone else will be the G5 essentially. This conference is the football equivalent of the G-league
Not just everyone else in the G5- there are multiple schools in P5 conferences that won't be involved in if there becomes a mega league of 2 conferences. There are schools in the ACC, PAC12, and BIGXII that will be left behind because they are not blue bloods or have the money.
If the California schools move to the B1G 'm trying to think what "move the needle" programs are left outside of Notre Dame. The remaining teams are either:
"New Money" programs like Oregon & Clemson
"Good for a short time but best days are behind" programs like Miami or Florida St.
"Basketball blue-bloods with below average football programs" like Duke, Kansas, and UNC, with UNC maybe being the next choice because they have the historically best football program amongst the basketball schools.
I understood OU/Texas to the SEC. I'm stunned by this USC/UCLA to the B1G thing. I think you can now throw logic completely out of the window regarding conference realignment. I can't see Oregon being cool in a PAC 12 w/o USC/UCLA and I fully expect them along with Stanford or maybe Washington to request B1G membership.
I think the PAC will be the casualty of this realignment move, especially if additional teams go with USC and UCLA. I see no reason for any Big 12 team to move to the PAC 12, in fact I think it's more likely that PAC teams move to the Big 12. Or perhaps the Big 12 merges with the remaining PAC. I think it's quite possible this doesn't impact the new AAC at all. Memphis, SMU, and USF may not be getting that life boat they've been waiting on after all.
Bottom line is this is all moving towards the breakaway of the top ~50 teams. College football will be completely transformed by the end of the decade.
(06-30-2022 03:10 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote: [ -> ]And reportedly Kansas may look to go independent in football to pursue Big East membership for basketball.
That makes zero sense. They would lose a ton of money in TV revenue.
And oh yeah, the Big 12 is probably the strongest college basketball conference in the country.
(06-30-2022 03:13 PM)BlazintheAtl1 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-30-2022 03:10 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote: [ -> ]And reportedly Kansas may look to go independent in football to pursue Big East membership for basketball.
That makes zero sense. They would lose a ton of money in TV revenue.
And oh yeah, the Big 12 is probably the strongest college basketball conference in the country.
Tweet that reported this has since been deleted.
(06-30-2022 02:21 PM)BlazerMatt Wrote: [ -> ] (06-30-2022 02:01 PM)blazerblazer Wrote: [ -> ] (06-30-2022 01:34 PM)Golden-Ticket Wrote: [ -> ]I believe we are witnessing the creation of a mega league of 2 conferences maybe 20 teams each. Everyone else will be the G5 essentially. This conference is the football equivalent of the G-league
Not just everyone else in the G5- there are multiple schools in P5 conferences that won't be involved in if there becomes a mega league of 2 conferences. There are schools in the ACC, PAC12, and BIGXII that will be left behind because they are not blue bloods or have the money.
If the California schools move to the B1G 'm trying to think what "move the needle" programs are left outside of Notre Dame. The remaining teams are either:
"New Money" programs like Oregon & Clemson
"Good for a short time but best days are behind" programs like Miami or Florida St.
"Basketball blue-bloods with below average football programs" like Duke, Kansas, and UNC, with UNC maybe being the next choice because they have the historically best football program amongst the basketball schools.
This is purely about football, we've seen it over and over the past year. I think the true locks are Clemson and FSU. Miami and VT I think are the next biggest football brands unless the SEC can lure Notre Dame somehow over the Big Ten.
PAC 12, to me, adds Washington, Oregon, Notre Dame, and Stanford. Either way we're about to see the final 8 lift rafts get taken into the super conference. I think it's truly about to get wild at the next level. MWC, P12, B12, ACC, and AAC are all about to reshuffle like crazy.
Washington, Oregon, and Stanford already plays in the PAC 12.
"We have made the most of every opportunity in recent years to propel UAB Athletics to new heights, and joining the AAC is an incredible opportunity to build on all we have accomplished in a big way," said Director of Athletics Mark Ingram. "We've worked hard to make great progress that put us in this position, and we don't intend to slow down. This is another great day for UAB Athletics and Blazer Nation, and it is still just the beginning."
UAB to B12
I think UAB chances of ever getting into the Big XII is zelch now. Even if the B1G stands pat with USC/UCLA the future of the PAC 12 is bleak. The Big XII will not have to look to the MWC or AAC for additional programs because there will probably be 3 to 4 PAC 12 teams interested in joining the conference.
I do believe Oregon, Stanford, Washington, and Notre Dame will eventually be in the B1G. Maybe even sooner than later.
The Big and SEC will work their way to 24 teams each and stage their own playoff.
The remnants of the Pac 12 and the western half of the big 12 remnants will merge. They will not invite anyone from the g5 unless they have to.
Whatever is left from the ACC will pull Cincinnati, UCF and West Virginia (if available). They will not take any G5s unless they have to.
The ACC's GOR is still going to play a part in the survival of the conference. Their GOR doesn't expire until 2036 I believe so any team trying to leave before that is going to have to pay a tremendous price.
The B1G can get to 20 schools more easily than the SEC because of the remaining PAC 12 schools (Oregon, Stanford, Washington) to choose from and Notre Dame possibly being in play for them. I don't see the SEC going back to the Big 12 to add programs, they would much rather prefer to poach the ACC.
The B1G and SEC will become the upper class conferences while the Big XII and ACC will become the middle class. Everybody else will be the poor.
We're well on our way to two Super Leagues, the Fox League and the ESPN League. Then the two hold a playoff for the championship of college football (and split the money) and do away with the idea that anyone else playing college football has any claim whatsoever to a championship.
Oregon hasn't spent the kind of money they have to become the king of a halfassed Pac. They'll move, probably along with Wasihington. The megaleagues would love to grab Clemson but the ACC contract is going make that conference difficult to raid for some years yet unless ESPN wants to bite the bullet and help pay the buyout.
All this chaos. I can't for the life of me understand why they have not long since separated off football to have the ability to join for TV and competition without dragging all the other sports along into insane cross country conference game expenses.