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Nice read

Best and most truthful part of this article:

Quote:UAB, at its heart, is a basketball school. Some people maybe forgot that along the way, and the young people are just now discovering it anew, but when Bartow Arena is packed it can rival the atmosphere of any gym in the country.

The bold part is directed at some of you who believes otherwise.

(05-17-2022 04:55 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote: [ -> ]Best and most truthful part of this article:

Quote:UAB, at its heart, is a basketball school. Some people maybe forgot that along the way, and the young people are just now discovering it anew, but when Bartow Arena is packed it can rival the atmosphere of any gym in the country.

The bold part is directed at some of you who believes otherwise.

Yep. I understand football drives the bus and needs to be successful, but for me personally, UAB football just kinda keeps me going until UAB Basketball starts. If given a choice of making the CFP or the Final Four, I’d take the Final Four every time.

Making the college football playoff would do a lot more for our school. Especially in the state we are in, being that good at football would help us be sustainable at all sports

No reason why we can't do both.......

Ok, for fun, which one would be easier to achieve for UAB:

1) advance to the final four from a 1-bid C-USA as a 12 seed or higher
2) make the CFP.

#1

The lowest seed to make the FF is 11. Five programs have made the Final Four as an 11-seed and one of those schools were from a one bid league:

2018 - Loyola Chicago (MVC)

St. Peters almost made it as a 15-seed this year. That being said, I think it is much more difficult to make a Final Four than making the CFP.

However, in UAB's case I think they are a lot closer to getting to a Final Four than the football program making the CFP.

I would say no. 1 also but barely. That would be probably 7 straight wins where a loss ends season, including probably 4 upsets or more.

Good article

I think making the final 4 in basketball would be astronomically easier for UAB. Basketball doesn’t require as many moving parts to be working perfectly. Football is so too heavy that I don’t see many schools outside of like 15 that can even compete currently. All we need in basketball is 8-9 guys

It’s really not a comparable situation at all.

Basketball would need to win probably 3 conference tournament elimination games then win 4 ncaa tournament games to reach the final four. This is entirely within their own control. They have never done this before, and haven’t even won 7 in a row in the regular season many times. So it is a big statistical improbability, but has been achieved by similar schools and has a *chance* within UAB’s control.

Football doesn’t have to beat any of those top 15 or so usual contenders to make the CFP. But it probably would need to win all 12 regular season games, a conference championship game and then have almost every other team above them lose twice. The biggest obstacles are not opponents. The biggest obstacles are things UAB can never control.

I personally think going undefeated against a typical uab schedule might be slightly more probable than winning 7 in a row out of must-win basketball games. But the uncontrollable variables are way harder.

I think a more fairer comparison would have been making the FF or a NY6 bowl. But even then I would say making a FF is still more attainable because football hasn't even been close to getting a NY6 bowl.

For UAB to make the CFP, they would absolutely need to beat at least one Top 15 team because SOS and the eye test will still matter to the Playoff Committee. The committee would take 4 three loss teams from the P5 over a undefeated UAB team with no Top 15 wins.

13 teams have made the CFP. This started in 2014.

During that time frame here are your Final Four teams:

UConn, Kentucky, Florida, Wisconsin, Michigan state, Duke, Villanova, Syracuse, Oklahoma, North Carolina, Gonzaga, Oregon, South Carolina, Michigan, Kansas, Loyola-Chicago, Virginia, Texas Tech, auburn, Baylor, UCLA, Houston

The Final Four is much more probable for a school like UAB, because it does not require perfection, along with dominos outside of your control falling perfectly. We are currently in position for an at large prior to our season starting. I don’t believe in one bid conferences, I believe in one bid schedules and performances. That can change year to year, and plenty of “one bid” conferences send teams to the tournament as at larges.

Also, there is absolutely no reason UAB can’t be a football and basketball school. You don’t have to be labeled as one or the other, and I want UAB to be successful at both.

Agree, simply because there is controllable access.

So let’s reframe strictly on what uab can control. Which is more likely to happen—

UAB football go undefeated in a regular season against its typical g5 schedule (conference + 1 buy game, one fcs and two G5s)

— uab basketball win seven straight do-or-die games to make the final 4.

Neither one has happened, both are conceivable. If you had to bet, which would you bet happens first?

(05-18-2022 08:32 AM)DuelingDragon Wrote: [ -> ]Agree, simply because there is controllable access.

So let’s reframe strictly on what uab can control. Which is more likely to happen—

UAB football go undefeated in a regular season against its typical g5 schedule (conference + 1 buy game, one fcs and two G5s)

— uab basketball win seven straight do-or-die games to make the final 4.

Neither one has happened, both are conceivable. If you had to bet, which would you bet happens first?

Despite your dogmatic insistence to the contrary, UAB CAN get an at large. And yes, winning 4 games is much easier than going undefeated in football, having the right teams above us lose, playing a tougher schedule to get recognition, and also playing better against top level competition than we've ever played on a consistent level (outside of BYU).

(05-17-2022 04:55 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote: [ -> ]Best and most truthful part of this article:

Quote:UAB, at its heart, is a basketball school. Some people maybe forgot that along the way, and the young people are just now discovering it anew, but when Bartow Arena is packed it can rival the atmosphere of any gym in the country.

The bold part is directed at some of you who believes otherwise.

OK?

If I'm not a basketball fan (in general) then bold print or other wise is not gonna force me or anyone else. Do we really have to go through this all over again. UAB athletics was founded on basketball. when football was cancelled I don't remember anyone offering us a home in a basketball only conference.

I like UAB basketball only because I went to UAB. BUT I prefer football, overall, period.

Since we're directing bold print, which one got us into the AAC.

Like ATTALLABLAZE and BLAZERS9911 stated, "there is absolutely no reason UAB can’t be a football and basketball school. You don’t have to be labeled as one or the other, and I want UAB to be successful at both."

UAB is one of the few schools doing very well in both currently. Off the top of my head UAB is one of about 30ish teams to make March madness and a bowl game. UAB is a clear top 50 team in both sports. Football will always be king in terms of conference realignment and money unless you are one of these blue bloods. Hell I read that Kansas football still makes more money than their basketball and they are the current national champions

There's no reason UAB shouldn't be good at both, and we currently are thankfully.

Basketball will always have a special place in my heart, but I love football also.

(05-18-2022 10:31 AM)Golden-Ticket Wrote: [ -> ]UAB is one of the few schools doing very well in both currently. Off the top of my head UAB is one of about 30ish teams to make March madness and a bowl game. UAB is a clear top 50 team in both sports. Football will always be king in terms of conference realignment and money unless you are one of these blue bloods. Hell I read that Kansas football still makes more money than their basketball and they are the current national champions

Interesting, I thought that Kansas would make more in basketball than football