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And there goes the top WR.
Winstead and Landers were our only scary players to line up against. Its Zsiros turn to take over that role. TE production will need to step up for sure.

Blankumsee, Maddox and Newton should get the majority of yardage on this team.

Any word on Sienna Heights kid or young WRs from the Spring game?
I stated a couple month ago in another thread ('22 roster ???) that we were precariously thin at WR. No doubt about it now. Very bad situation. This will by necessity be a running team. CAN WE MAKE HOLES????

His transfer changes everything. The portal is the death to college football.

I cannot stand this crap. Total free agency. No roster control at all. I know there are posters on this site 100% in favor of the portal but it was originally 1 transfer but now it's unlimited chaos and it's fed by NIL $$$$$
(05-03-2022 11:51 AM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote: [ -> ]I stated a couple month ago in another thread ('22 roster ???) that we were precariously thin at WR. No doubt about it now. Very bad situation. This will by necessity be a running team. CAN WE MAKE HOLES????

His transfer changes everything. The portal is the death to college football.

I cannot stand this crap. Total free agency. No roster control at all. I know there are posters on this site 100% in favor of the portal but it was originally 1 transfer but now it's unlimited chaos and it's fed by NIL $$$$$

NCAA is going to have to figure this out to get it more under control or it’s only going to get worse. You’re going to have kids playing for 4 different schools in 4 years.

Started with coaches leaving programs as quickly as they arrived with sights of greener pastures. No loyalty. It no longer matters what school you play for. All about money for coaches and players.
(05-03-2022 12:15 PM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-03-2022 11:51 AM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote: [ -> ]I stated a couple month ago in another thread ('22 roster ???) that we were precariously thin at WR. No doubt about it now. Very bad situation. This will by necessity be a running team. CAN WE MAKE HOLES????

His transfer changes everything. The portal is the death to college football.

I cannot stand this crap. Total free agency. No roster control at all. I know there are posters on this site 100% in favor of the portal but it was originally 1 transfer but now it's unlimited chaos and it's fed by NIL $$$$$

NCAA is going to have to figure this out to get it more under control or it’s only going to get worse. You’re going to have kids playing for 4 different schools in 4 years.

Started with coaches leaving programs as quickly as they arrived with sights of greener pastures. No loyalty. It no longer matters what school you play for. All about money for coaches and players.

There was a previous post about the portal and there would only be a few top teams as the winners. That's what we have.
Read somewhere about another player, but since it is past May 1st, he's entering the portal without the ability to play immediately...he will either need a waiver or will be sitting a year just to get out and go somewhere else. Not a good sign...
Unfortunate, but remember that without the portal, he probably would not have played for UT last season either, so it cuts both ways.

Likely, he put his name in before May 1, and word is just leaking out now. But, he will be a grad transfer, so even if not, much easier to get a waiver as a grad transfer as I understand.

WR room is definitely thinner than normal, but they did move QB Wesley to WR during the spring, and have at least 2 WRs in the FR class. Also, the TE room is very big, so possible one or more of them could slide over to WR, or UT could run a 2 TE offense more often, which might help the O line out in the run game.
(05-03-2022 03:58 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote: [ -> ]Unfortunate, but remember that without the portal, he probably would not have played for UT last season either, so it cuts both ways.

Likely, he put his name in before May 1, and word is just leaking out now. But, he will be a grad transfer, so even if not, much easier to get a waiver as a grad transfer as I understand.

WR room is definitely thinner than normal, but they did move QB Wesley to WR during the spring, and have at least 2 WRs in the FR class. Also, the TE room is very big, so possible one or more of them could slide over to WR, or UT could run a 2 TE offense more often, which might help the O line out in the run game.

Pinkel did it. That's what I wanted a long time ago, but gave up.
TE is extremely deep as opposed to WR

Stephens
Kuhl
Caudill
Turner
Person
Torres

I now feel better. I suspect UT will utilize TE more like Amstutz did in his hey-day. They may not but it sure makes sense to do so. There is a LOT of talent on TE side. Torres was a great addition from WMU. Portal in reverse.

I'll try and stay positive in this chaotic world[/u]
Whoever said it, coaches started this back when, now the players are taking advantage of their freedom to move around to different t schools. Could it also be the demise of the NCAA as it exist right now ?
(05-03-2022 08:57 PM)Springboromark Wrote: [ -> ]Whoever said it, coaches started this back when, now the players are taking advantage of their freedom to move around to different t schools. Could it also be the demise of the NCAA as it exist right now ?

NCAA lost control years ago when they didn't stand up to the P5 on revenue sharing. The relevance continues to slide ever since.
East said it in another thread, CFB fan interest is going to decline and others will just move on to other things. This is crazy. I don't really think the new CFB as we know it is sustainable. The top 20 or so teams will split to form their own semi-pro league, while the rest of the teams can actually play college football.
The split within DI (P5 vs G5) happened almost overnight when the BCS was initiated. It's only gone downhill from there. We're all DI but like most aspects of society there are discreet class differences. The irony is the NCAA promotes relegation and elitism without shame.

Around 1960 the NCAA invented the term "student athlete" to try and convince skeptical fans that football players really did mix with the rest of the university student body and take their studies seriously. The "ringer" was replaced by the studious jock. It was a a well conceived and highly reinforced narrative for almost 60 years until the $$$ just got TOO big to bother with maintaining the sham. The dollars were just too big to hide the truth. In fact - maintaining the sham image just reduced NIL marketing potential and that is just plain bad for business. Unfortunately college football is now just a big business that will have a limited shelf life like all products that seem over marketed and hyped. I'm already tired of it.

Toledo's brand of football seems almost righteous compared to the P5.

Go Rockets!
article in ESPN today about college football coaches trying to fit the portal into 2 short time windows during the live recruiting periods before Dec 15 early commits and right after spring practice.

obviously, the balance college football had for a while between school pride, competition, and money shifted way too far toward the dollars. I'd argue big time football has always had a problem with prioritizing it's own image and status above doing what was right or in the best interests of competitiveness.

as fans maybe we got carried away with the over-glorification of athletes. They's always been put on a pedestal and worshipped to a degree, which has some grounding in human nature/appreciating the physical gifts of human performance. It's gotten a bit silly today with the money thrown at athletes from the biggest stars to barely average players at name universities.

as for the NCAA they have no standing anymore. it may work as a tournament organizational entity for most college sports, but it has no credibility or creative vision for advancing the best things about college sports. The NCAA sold the tourney to TV in increasingly huge sums of money and created a vast array of vice presidents and administrators to pocket a chunk of it. while sending most of the rest to a small group of high profile schools to pay their coaches and ADs ridiculous salaries. meanwhile, entirely cutting out the athletes who make the sport what it is. now, that athletes have established the legal right to use their work, notoriety or fame financially we've got a free for all for the money. If the NCAA had from the jump worked with the athletes and institutions to share the revenue and project how it could benefit sports overall at the college level, we would not have found ourselves here.

transfers and eligibility were for decades in this slow amorphous process of rulings and appeals that had no transparency or consistency. name transfers were often given waivers under questionable reasons. ethics violations were punished by sanctions on athletes who had nothing to do with violations that happened in the past involving other people. guys like the oakland bball player who was a war veteran and honor student and was ruled by the NCAA academically ineligible, because he got something like a B- in a difficult class in his major which in that program at oakland triggered an academic probation. or all the non-scholarship ivy league athletes (none are on scholarship) who lost a year on their eligibility clock when the Ivy league cancelled their seasons during a pandemic after they'd enrolled and paid for school. meanwhile, you got 6th and 7th year guys at their 4th school. I'm still baffled how willie jackson played 1 full year of college basketball and was out of eligibility.

For each reaction their is a counter-reaction. when things are out of whack you can have over-reach as you look for solutions or make changes.
(05-03-2022 11:06 PM)pono Wrote: [ -> ]For each reaction their is a counter-reaction. when things are out of whack you can have over-reach as you look for solutions or make changes.
I'd bet there are those who were complaining college athletes are "slaves" are also complaining the NIL is destroying the culture of their college sports teams.

The goal is to react in a way that encourages a stabilizing reaction. This one is a tough nut. Note they never seemed to have considered caps on coaching contracts, budgets... The colleges through their NCAA agent didn't want to lose this property to private leagues.

The concerns will die out over time as they have in the pro sports. That's the reaction the designers of NIL are hoping for. It will take a couple seasons. Right now, their biggest enemy is that just a couple schools are so much better at the transfer game and there are no adjustments like the pros have to give advantage to the down trodden.
When coaches started making millions and every other old wd who never tackled anyone started making money off the actual product, there is the decline ..... Coaches come and go with no regard chasing there own agenda.... can't blame the players for wanting some freedom and a chance to make a little bread

As for Landers... probably realized the QB room isn't gonna get it done for him..a bad offense looms with or without him.....seemed to have a tude anyway
Yeah - coaches salaries spun out of control and sucked everything with it. And now it all sucks. I blame it on the administrators for allowing this salary craziness. Blame goes directly to the top.
Big whoop. If he was that special you would have seen him on the field prior to Mitchell going down last year.

I would rather have a team full of Cody Thompson's that were under-recruited and thankful to be on the field than transfer portal / P5 reject WRs.
(05-04-2022 08:29 AM)Kid Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]When coaches started making millions and every other old wd who never tackled anyone started making money off the actual product, there is the decline ..... Coaches come and go with no regard chasing there own agenda.... can't blame the players for wanting some freedom and a chance to make a little bread

As for Landers... probably realized the QB room isn't gonna get it done for him..a bad offense looms with or without him.....seemed to have a tude anyway

Agree - Need a big time stout D to win this year. I'm thinking that we average like 30 PPG max so we must be around 20 on D.
Thanks Matt good luck but I think you will wish you stayed. Don't agree with the earlier comment on Winstead he dropped way too many passes. Cost us at least 1 win if not more. Next man up.
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