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As a USM fan, since day one the SBC and their fans have made us feel nothing less than welcome. It's been cool. Go to the Sun Belt board and it's a love-fest for the new kids coming in.
On this very board, I have seen love for the new C-USA adds, and even some "move along now" toward us SB3 as C-USA seems excited for their next chapter as well.
But go to the AAC board, and it's like they are angry about everyone (except UAB) coming in. There's a current thread by a UNT poster that's rough. It has to feel nice for UAB, but not nice for the others.
Hopefully everyone will be happy with their new conference homes and all have made decisions to further their university once the dust settles. But for the AAC6, save UAB who is getting all the love, does that mix the emotion for the move? Or is perception simply skewed by the ramblings on a message board?
I think with UTSA, it’s the horrid basketball program that most are uncertain about. Football wise, almost all are saying it’s a good add. I think Charlotte is taking the worst beating of all the adds from what I see
(04-03-2022 05:09 PM)davi78239 Wrote: [ -> ]I think with UTSA, it’s the horrid basketball program that most are uncertain about. Football wise, almost all are saying it’s a good add. I think Charlotte is taking the worst beating of all the adds from what I see

People are crazy if they arent excited about UTSA. San Antonio is one of the fastest growing markets in the country and UTSAs football program has the potential to be the next Houston. Their basketball gym is a joke but I'm sure UTSA will plan to upgrade soon (look how far they have come iver the last ten years).
(04-03-2022 04:38 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote: [ -> ]As a USM fan, since day one the SBC and their fans have made us feel nothing less than welcome. It's been cool. Go to the Sun Belt board and it's a love-fest for the new kids coming in.
On this very board, I have seen love for the new C-USA adds, and even some "move along now" toward us SB3 as C-USA seems excited for their next chapter as well.
But go to the AAC board, and it's like they are angry about everyone (except UAB) coming in. There's a current thread by a UNT poster that's rough. It has to feel nice for UAB, but not nice for the others.
Hopefully everyone will be happy with their new conference homes and all have made decisions to further their university once the dust settles. But for the AAC6, save UAB who is getting all the love, does that mix the emotion for the move? Or is perception simply skewed by the ramblings on a message board?

Class. But we know you can't help yourself.
I remember a similar welcome to CUSA.
You can't assume a message board reflects reality.

But also, it's hard to feel too sympathetic. If they didn't want people to be mean on a message board they could have stayed in CUSA (and we'd have gladly taken our chances at message board griping about having to share a conference with us).
Your perception is skewed by reading one thread started by a UNT poster who was basically asking for negative feedback.

I have been on that board for years, mostly reading but (very) occasionally chiming in, until my school started getting serious mention for this round of openings.

Nothing I’ve read there surprises me, and I agree with the general consensus that none of the new six AAC teams are perfect fits in every way, with the possible exception of UAB.

That was the consensus before the adds were announced, and it’s still the case. Nobody will be “sold” on the additions until 3-5 years from now.

AAC has a superiority complex (to the G5) and an inferiority complex (to the P5 or P6) and how this round of moves affects that balance of power is complicated.

Collectively they’re a bunch of Cocky sum beaches who talked the talk long before they walked the walk, but with ESPN and Aresco they actually pulled it off.

As new AAC6 teams it is now on us to get on there and talk the talk… and expect our schools to follow it up with results in the next 3-5 years.

Nothing* I have read hurts my feelings as a Rice fan but I’m proud of my school and its teams and of the other five headed that way. I don’t expect hugs and open arms but I do expect us all to step up.


*Almost nothing…
I pushed back hard when pre-announcement several posters liked to ding Rice’s athletic success (when they meant in revenue sports MBB & FB). It’s a fair criticism but we have been nothing special in the $$$ sports in several years. (Been very good overall in “Directors Cup”)
SB is glad they're poaching instead of being poached. CUSA is happy to survive. Can't blame the AAC fans. Difficult to get excited after the trio they lost. Don't they account for like the last 6 Access Bowls?
(04-03-2022 06:39 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote: [ -> ]Class. But we know you can't help yourself.

Dude, it's a classy FAU poster that said, "Future conference mates...Joe likes to start "Off-Season Topics" now because unt has no baseball program. He is also desparate for affirmation."

Do you think I'm making this up? I'm simply asking for SB3, C-USA, and AAC6 thoughts on the different types of reception. Link
I have mixed thoughts I guess. The validation as a UAB fan has been nice. Even before the AA6 was announced, UAB was being discussed as a crowd favorite to join. Good facilities, good support, consistently good teams, AD committed to success, solid coaches, etc. so that’s relatively understandable that the welcome committee is friendlier to us. The other 5 came as somewhat of a shock to them. Apart from UAB, no incoming school is currently showing sustained success in both MBB and football. It is a sore spot because they’re used to being the top dogs in G5. Hell, they sent a team to the 4 person playoffs. Still, the implications aren’t dire either. I mean, UCF was in a similar spot to UAB when they joined the AAC. Who is to say the exposure and increase in prestige won’t elevate UAB to a similar height in 2-4 years. UTSA is on an upswing. Could UAB and UTSA take the place of UCF and Houston? Maybe. The first season UCF had after leaving from CUSA, they went 12-1 and beat Baylor in a NY6 bowl. Houston’s banner 2021 season was coming off back to back losing seasons. Are we sure Dana can do it again? Cincinnati’s first half of AAC membership was less successful than Memphis. These things are cyclical. Investment is paramount, which certain existing AAC schools aren’t doing. Still, a football core (using recency bias) of UAB, Memphis, SMU, UTSA, Navy(?) can be very good, easily competing for the top G5 conference and NY6 bid every season. Yes, more parity with the other G5 leagues but an AAC Champ will very much so still be in the conversation every year for that NYC (or expanded playoff bid). Basketball still has Memphis, Wichita, Temple, SMU, UAB, UNT. Depending on the year you could see anywhere from 1-4 bids out of this.

All that said, I really don’t like the hate the others are getting. There are definite strong points to each school joining. The Tulsa, Tulane, ECU, Temple fans seem to be the most vocally upset. They don’t really have any sustained success and the fans hinge all prestige of their athletics department on the fact they’re bottom feeders in the best G5 league instead of bottom feeders in CUSA or SBC. I’m not sure how their egos will handle it when Charlotte, FAU, or Rice shows up and beats them in year one. The fans of the stronger teams in the league seem to be the most welcoming. Oh well, maybe it makes for some fierce rivalries.
(04-03-2022 04:38 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote: [ -> ]As a USM fan, since day one the SBC and their fans have made us feel nothing less than welcome. It's been cool. Go to the Sun Belt board and it's a love-fest for the new kids coming in.
On this very board, I have seen love for the new C-USA adds, and even some "move along now" toward us SB3 as C-USA seems excited for their next chapter as well.
But go to the AAC board, and it's like they are angry about everyone (except UAB) coming in. There's a current thread by a UNT poster that's rough. It has to feel nice for UAB, but not nice for the others.
Hopefully everyone will be happy with their new conference homes and all have made decisions to further their university once the dust settles. But for the AAC6, save UAB who is getting all the love, does that mix the emotion for the move? Or is perception simply skewed by the ramblings on a message board?

I created the thread to gain insight into what current AAC fans perceive to be our weaknesses. I know I want UNT addressing relevant issues as soon as possible. Some fans have taken it as an opportunity to vent their frustrations with how AAC expansion played out. I choose to focus on the posts that actually address the topic.

As to you comments...

Marshall, USM, & ODU are moving to the Sun Belt, and those fans are very welcoming. Is that a sign that the SB3 are moving up?

C-USA is excited about what their new members could bring to their basketball.... and they're happy the conference will survive.

Some fans on the AAC board are not welcoming. Whether it is out of snobbery or fear is irrelevant. The AAC6 are joining either way.
(04-03-2022 06:39 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2022 04:38 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote: [ -> ]As a USM fan, since day one the SBC and their fans have made us feel nothing less than welcome. It's been cool. Go to the Sun Belt board and it's a love-fest for the new kids coming in.
On this very board, I have seen love for the new C-USA adds, and even some "move along now" toward us SB3 as C-USA seems excited for their next chapter as well.
But go to the AAC board, and it's like they are angry about everyone (except UAB) coming in. There's a current thread by a UNT poster that's rough. It has to feel nice for UAB, but not nice for the others.
Hopefully everyone will be happy with their new conference homes and all have made decisions to further their university once the dust settles. But for the AAC6, save UAB who is getting all the love, does that mix the emotion for the move? Or is perception simply skewed by the ramblings on a message board?

Class. But we know you can't help yourself.

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I guess you can't help yourself either. 07-coffee3
There will be more expansions. I really like what the Sunbelt has done. Marshall is constantly a winner with good fan support. ODU and USM are only going to get better. The B12 will expand more and take at least one AAC team and maybe a MWC team. The AAC took teams in Texas so the MWC couldn’t. The Sunbelt is in a great position and if they lost a team. There is three C-USA team as possible replacements. C-USA survived but is on life support. The MWC could go after UTEP. The question is will a team from the AAC, MWC or Sunbelt leave for another league. The Sunbelt is the only league where the teams like each other. The AAC and MWC are potentially poaching each other. As a UAB Fan a don’t know if the AAC is permanent. We should have replaced UCONN years ago.
(04-03-2022 04:38 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote: [ -> ]As a USM fan, since day one the SBC and their fans have made us feel nothing less than welcome. It's been cool. Go to the Sun Belt board and it's a love-fest for the new kids coming in.
On this very board, I have seen love for the new C-USA adds, and even some "move along now" toward us SB3 as C-USA seems excited for their next chapter as well.
But go to the AAC board, and it's like they are angry about everyone (except UAB) coming in. There's a current thread by a UNT poster that's rough. It has to feel nice for UAB, but not nice for the others.
Hopefully everyone will be happy with their new conference homes and all have made decisions to further their university once the dust settles. But for the AAC6, save UAB who is getting all the love, does that mix the emotion for the move? Or is perception simply skewed by the ramblings on a message board?

Who is that UNT poster? I just want to see if I guessed correctly.
(04-03-2022 09:09 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2022 04:38 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote: [ -> ]As a USM fan, since day one the SBC and their fans have made us feel nothing less than welcome. It's been cool. Go to the Sun Belt board and it's a love-fest for the new kids coming in.
On this very board, I have seen love for the new C-USA adds, and even some "move along now" toward us SB3 as C-USA seems excited for their next chapter as well.
But go to the AAC board, and it's like they are angry about everyone (except UAB) coming in. There's a current thread by a UNT poster that's rough. It has to feel nice for UAB, but not nice for the others.
Hopefully everyone will be happy with their new conference homes and all have made decisions to further their university once the dust settles. But for the AAC6, save UAB who is getting all the love, does that mix the emotion for the move? Or is perception simply skewed by the ramblings on a message board?

I created the thread to gain insight into what current AAC fans perceive to be our weaknesses. I know I want UNT addressing relevant issues as soon as possible. Some fans have taken it as an opportunity to vent their frustrations with how AAC expansion played out. I choose to focus on the posts that actually address the topic.

As to you comments...

Marshall, USM, & ODU are moving to the Sun Belt, and those fans are very welcoming. Is that a sign that the SB3 are moving up?

C-USA is excited about what their new members could bring to their basketball.... and they're happy the conference will survive.

Some fans on the AAC board are not welcoming. Whether it is out of snobbery or fear is irrelevant. The AAC6 are joining either way.

I wouldn't say moving up, but the Sun Belt is now the best G5 conference without a doubt or the tallest midget.
(04-03-2022 09:57 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2022 09:09 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2022 04:38 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote: [ -> ]As a USM fan, since day one the SBC and their fans have made us feel nothing less than welcome. It's been cool. Go to the Sun Belt board and it's a love-fest for the new kids coming in.
On this very board, I have seen love for the new C-USA adds, and even some "move along now" toward us SB3 as C-USA seems excited for their next chapter as well.
But go to the AAC board, and it's like they are angry about everyone (except UAB) coming in. There's a current thread by a UNT poster that's rough. It has to feel nice for UAB, but not nice for the others.
Hopefully everyone will be happy with their new conference homes and all have made decisions to further their university once the dust settles. But for the AAC6, save UAB who is getting all the love, does that mix the emotion for the move? Or is perception simply skewed by the ramblings on a message board?

I created the thread to gain insight into what current AAC fans perceive to be our weaknesses. I know I want UNT addressing relevant issues as soon as possible. Some fans have taken it as an opportunity to vent their frustrations with how AAC expansion played out. I choose to focus on the posts that actually address the topic.

As to you comments...

Marshall, USM, & ODU are moving to the Sun Belt, and those fans are very welcoming. Is that a sign that the SB3 are moving up?

C-USA is excited about what their new members could bring to their basketball.... and they're happy the conference will survive.

Some fans on the AAC board are not welcoming. Whether it is out of snobbery or fear is irrelevant. The AAC6 are joining either way.

I wouldn't say moving up, but the Sun Belt is now the best G5 conference without a doubt or the tallest midget.

No the SBC is not the best of the G5 football conferences. Give it a few more years and it will be even lower.
(04-03-2022 09:57 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2022 09:09 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2022 04:38 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote: [ -> ]As a USM fan, since day one the SBC and their fans have made us feel nothing less than welcome. It's been cool. Go to the Sun Belt board and it's a love-fest for the new kids coming in.
On this very board, I have seen love for the new C-USA adds, and even some "move along now" toward us SB3 as C-USA seems excited for their next chapter as well.
But go to the AAC board, and it's like they are angry about everyone (except UAB) coming in. There's a current thread by a UNT poster that's rough. It has to feel nice for UAB, but not nice for the others.
Hopefully everyone will be happy with their new conference homes and all have made decisions to further their university once the dust settles. But for the AAC6, save UAB who is getting all the love, does that mix the emotion for the move? Or is perception simply skewed by the ramblings on a message board?

I created the thread to gain insight into what current AAC fans perceive to be our weaknesses. I know I want UNT addressing relevant issues as soon as possible. Some fans have taken it as an opportunity to vent their frustrations with how AAC expansion played out. I choose to focus on the posts that actually address the topic.

As to you comments...

Marshall, USM, & ODU are moving to the Sun Belt, and those fans are very welcoming. Is that a sign that the SB3 are moving up?

C-USA is excited about what their new members could bring to their basketball.... and they're happy the conference will survive.

Some fans on the AAC board are not welcoming. Whether it is out of snobbery or fear is irrelevant. The AAC6 are joining either way.

I wouldn't say moving up, but the Sun Belt is now the best G5 conference without a doubt or the tallest midget.

Really? I would like to see how you came up with that because SBC just added 3 schools to their bottom. Marshall is a good add in football but lets not forget they have ONE conference championship in CUSA 3.

Try to explain this with facts and not just based on your opinion. While the AAC took a hit at the top and their bottom also got a lot larger. 3 out of the 6 added has a conference championship in CUSA3 and Rice had one in 2013

last 5 seasons sb3
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(04-04-2022 12:00 AM)WKUYG Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2022 09:57 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2022 09:09 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2022 04:38 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote: [ -> ]As a USM fan, since day one the SBC and their fans have made us feel nothing less than welcome. It's been cool. Go to the Sun Belt board and it's a love-fest for the new kids coming in.
On this very board, I have seen love for the new C-USA adds, and even some "move along now" toward us SB3 as C-USA seems excited for their next chapter as well.
But go to the AAC board, and it's like they are angry about everyone (except UAB) coming in. There's a current thread by a UNT poster that's rough. It has to feel nice for UAB, but not nice for the others.
Hopefully everyone will be happy with their new conference homes and all have made decisions to further their university once the dust settles. But for the AAC6, save UAB who is getting all the love, does that mix the emotion for the move? Or is perception simply skewed by the ramblings on a message board?

I created the thread to gain insight into what current AAC fans perceive to be our weaknesses. I know I want UNT addressing relevant issues as soon as possible. Some fans have taken it as an opportunity to vent their frustrations with how AAC expansion played out. I choose to focus on the posts that actually address the topic.

As to you comments...

Marshall, USM, & ODU are moving to the Sun Belt, and those fans are very welcoming. Is that a sign that the SB3 are moving up?

C-USA is excited about what their new members could bring to their basketball.... and they're happy the conference will survive.

Some fans on the AAC board are not welcoming. Whether it is out of snobbery or fear is irrelevant. The AAC6 are joining either way.

I wouldn't say moving up, but the Sun Belt is now the best G5 conference without a doubt or the tallest midget.

Really? I would like to see how you came up with that because SBC just added 3 schools to their bottom. Marshall is a good add in football but lets not forget they have ONE conference championship in CUSA 3.

Try to explain this with facts and not just based on your opinion. While the AAC took a hit at the top and their bottom also got a lot larger. 3 out of the 6 added has a conference championship in CUSA3 and Rice had one in 2013

last 5 seasons sb3
[Image: SB3.png]

I'm half expecting a comment that the bowl games all conspired against Marshall to make sure they dont win.
(04-03-2022 09:57 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2022 09:09 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2022 04:38 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote: [ -> ]As a USM fan, since day one the SBC and their fans have made us feel nothing less than welcome. It's been cool. Go to the Sun Belt board and it's a love-fest for the new kids coming in.
On this very board, I have seen love for the new C-USA adds, and even some "move along now" toward us SB3 as C-USA seems excited for their next chapter as well.
But go to the AAC board, and it's like they are angry about everyone (except UAB) coming in. There's a current thread by a UNT poster that's rough. It has to feel nice for UAB, but not nice for the others.
Hopefully everyone will be happy with their new conference homes and all have made decisions to further their university once the dust settles. But for the AAC6, save UAB who is getting all the love, does that mix the emotion for the move? Or is perception simply skewed by the ramblings on a message board?

I created the thread to gain insight into what current AAC fans perceive to be our weaknesses. I know I want UNT addressing relevant issues as soon as possible. Some fans have taken it as an opportunity to vent their frustrations with how AAC expansion played out. I choose to focus on the posts that actually address the topic.

As to you comments...

Marshall, USM, & ODU are moving to the Sun Belt, and those fans are very welcoming. Is that a sign that the SB3 are moving up?

C-USA is excited about what their new members could bring to their basketball.... and they're happy the conference will survive.

Some fans on the AAC board are not welcoming. Whether it is out of snobbery or fear is irrelevant. The AAC6 are joining either way.

I wouldn't say moving up, but the Sun Belt is now the best G5 conference without a doubt or the tallest midget.

It's not. The MW has a better tv deal and has put in the performance in both major sports.
(04-03-2022 04:38 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote: [ -> ]As a USM fan, since day one the SBC and their fans have made us feel nothing less than welcome. It's been cool. Go to the Sun Belt board and it's a love-fest for the new kids coming in.
On this very board, I have seen love for the new C-USA adds, and even some "move along now" toward us SB3 as C-USA seems excited for their next chapter as well.
But go to the AAC board, and it's like they are angry about everyone (except UAB) coming in. There's a current thread by a UNT poster that's rough. It has to feel nice for UAB, but not nice for the others.
Hopefully everyone will be happy with their new conference homes and all have made decisions to further their university once the dust settles. But for the AAC6, save UAB who is getting all the love, does that mix the emotion for the move? Or is perception simply skewed by the ramblings on a message board?
Threads like this are just trolling by the sun belt 3 and do nothing more than show their insecurities and inferiority complex. You don't see new AAC adds or staying cusa schools dwelling on the fricken sun belt. We don't care.

The AAC lost 3 teams to a power 5. Anyone they backfilled with would get some resistance. The sun belt added 3 teams and lost nobody because the AAC didn't want any of those schools.

None of the new adds in the AAC really care about random message board guys especially about athletics where the closest most of them got to the field was scorekeeping most likely. And yes many left behind did latch onto the 3 movers to the big 12 for their success. Theyll get some reality checks in football soon



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