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Believe it or not, there are people that are not happy. Some people want us in Atlantic 10, some in the American, some folks said we should have never leave Conference USA and yes, some folks say should have never left the CAA. Get over it, people, we are now in the Sun Belt and hopefully, unless the ACC comes calling, we will be here for a long, long time. There is no perfect conference, unless us, East Carolina, Hampton, Norfolk State, William and Mary, TCC, Christopher Newport, Thomas Nelson and College of the Albemarle form a conference. Is the Sun Belt perfect? Heck no, it isn't, travel is still far and basketball stinks, but as a whole the schools are closer and will provide rivalries. We need to stay and concentrate on doing better in our athletics and create some rivalries. We love to complain, always have. How about packing our venues? Support our teams and don't tear them down? We like to talk about the old times. How about making some new memories and bring that winning culture to the present? How about we go to a game and support these athletes? Just saying!!!

I believe that those to whom you refer are members of a fringe minority.

Leaving CUSA was a huge business move. ODU is going to save millions in travel expenses. ODU will also benefit from the media payoffs. With that money, we could afford to hire better coaches for BB and FB in the future.

Conference USA has added Liberty, New Mexico State, Sam Houston and Jacksonville State so far. How in the world anyone could say that’s a more compelling league than the SBC?

Glad to be out of CUSA. I’m a basketball first guy, so would have preferred the AAC (until Memphis/Temple leave). I probably would have preferred the A10/Indy route too. But with that said, the SB is our new home and we need to make the best of it for a long while now. That means getting football much more competitive (already in progress), and doing our part to raise the profile of SB basketball. There’s no reason a league with ODU, JMU, GSU, USA, Tx St can’t do better. I feel like a hypocrite saying that, because we very well may finish in last place next season in both sports. But the future looks pretty good in the SB as long as we do our part. Which will start with making basketball good again.

SBC 4EVER!!!

A10 YUCK. AAC YUCK.

(04-03-2022 03:08 PM)ODUDon Wrote: [ -> ]Conference USA has added Liberty, New Mexico State, Sam Houston and Jacksonville State so far. How in the world anyone could say that’s a more compelling league than the SBC?

Yup. The best thing about heading to the SBC is that we are leaving what remains of CUSA. Beyond that, the needle isn't moving a considerable amount one way or the other.

I prefer the A10 because I am a basketball first guy... but if we are going to all but abandon basketball in favor of football, I'm glad we are at least in a conference where the football program can get off the ground. So I wouldn't say "not happy" but without an interesting basketball program and my son tying up the fall with soccer, my 30 minute trips to campus will likely continue to be rare. Maybe will get more into football once the falls start becoming freer as my son gets older.

The only thing that will move the needle for us is us.

Our fans, our pride, our teams, our achieving milestones, etc. And the conference will just go with us. I have no illusion about why we are where we currently are...and the blame does not belong to CUSA. And it won't belong to SBC either if we don't get anything done.

Unrealistic expectations by some.

There was never an avenue to the AAC.
There was never an avenue to the A10.
We might as well have aspired to the ACC, B1G, or the SEC
Staying in the CAA after VCU and Mason left was a non starter.

We had two, and possibly three choices.
1. Stay in CUSA
2. Move to the SBC
3. Possible move to the MAC.

Given the better media deal, and lower travel costs, the SBC move was a no brainer.

(04-04-2022 08:08 AM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]I prefer the A10 because I am a basketball first guy... but if we are going to all but abandon basketball in favor of football, I'm glad we are at least in a conference where the football program can get off the ground. So I wouldn't say "not happy" but without an interesting basketball program and my son tying up the fall with soccer, my 30 minute trips to campus will likely continue to be rare. Maybe will get more into football once the falls start becoming freer as my son gets older.

I spent some of my kid's soccer games with my phone on my lap trying to keep up with both at the same time like PIP. The nice thing about being on the ESPN platform is all of the games will be available in the app for later viewing if you don't catch it live.

(04-04-2022 08:40 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote: [ -> ]Unrealistic expectations by some.

There was never an avenue to the AAC.
There was never an avenue to the A10.
We might as well have aspired to the ACC, B1G, or the SEC
Staying in the CAA after VCU and Mason left was a non starter.

We had two, and possibly three choices.
1. Stay in CUSA
2. Move to the SBC
3. Possible move to the MAC.

Given the better media deal, and lower travel costs, the SBC move was a no brainer.

This may be accurate. But if so, why? Why would UNCC, UNT, UAB or FAU get invited but not ODU? There’s nothing those schools should have on us, and ODUs geography, budget and potential is arguably better. I think the AAC made a lot of sense, and we didn’t pursue it out of fear it would turn into the next CUSA. That’s just a guess, but it makes sense. The SB is fine and it’s home. But if the AAC wasn’t even an option, that’s on us for dropping from the most likely candidate when UConn left to out of consideration a few years later. I would have thought we’d be their third or fourth choice at least.

The Sun Belt is absolutely the best place for us to be at this time and likely well into the future. Can you even imagine a better football schedule than this one?


SEP 2 (FRI) TBA
VS VIRGINIA TECH

SEP 10 (SAT) TBA
AT EAST CAROLINA

SEP 17 (SAT) TBA
AT VIRGINIA

SEP 24 (SAT) TBA
VS ARKANSAS STATE

OCT 1 (SAT) TBA
VS LIBERTY

OCT 15 (SAT) TBA
AT COASTAL CAROLINA

OCT 22 (SAT) TBA
VS GEORGIA SOUTHERN

OCT 29 (SAT) TBA
AT GEORGIA STATE

NOV 5 (SAT) TBA
VS MARSHALL

NOV 12 (SAT) TBA
VS JAMES MADISON

NOV 19 (SAT) TBA
AT APPALACHIAN STATE

NOV 26 (SAT) TBA
AT SOUTH ALABAMA

As for basketball, the SBC will certainly be as good as C-USA, if not better, and we will not be 2,000 miles from one of our stronger round ball conference mates. This move is a win for the Monarchs in every possible way.

Cheers!

Oops. Somehow I left off VA Tech. Fixed it.

(04-04-2022 08:59 AM)monarx Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-04-2022 08:40 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote: [ -> ]Unrealistic expectations by some.

There was never an avenue to the AAC.
There was never an avenue to the A10.
We might as well have aspired to the ACC, B1G, or the SEC
Staying in the CAA after VCU and Mason left was a non starter.

We had two, and possibly three choices.
1. Stay in CUSA
2. Move to the SBC
3. Possible move to the MAC.

Given the better media deal, and lower travel costs, the SBC move was a no brainer.

This may be accurate. But if so, why? Why would UNCC, UNT, UAB or FAU get invited but not ODU? There’s nothing those schools should have on us, and ODUs geography, budget and potential is arguably better. I think the AAC made a lot of sense, and we didn’t pursue it out of fear it would turn into the next CUSA. That’s just a guess, but it makes sense. The SB is fine and it’s home. But if the AAC wasn’t even an option, that’s on us for dropping from the most likely candidate when UConn left to out of consideration a few years later. I would have thought we’d be their third or fourth choice at least.

It had nothing to do with ODU not pursuing the AAC.
It had everything to do with media market size. We were the 'last man out'

In modern history, (since 2012) we were never a candidate for the A10, despite inquiries on our part.

(04-04-2022 08:43 AM)Chillie Willie Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-04-2022 08:08 AM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]I prefer the A10 because I am a basketball first guy... but if we are going to all but abandon basketball in favor of football, I'm glad we are at least in a conference where the football program can get off the ground. So I wouldn't say "not happy" but without an interesting basketball program and my son tying up the fall with soccer, my 30 minute trips to campus will likely continue to be rare. Maybe will get more into football once the falls start becoming freer as my son gets older.

I spent some of my kid's soccer games with my phone on my lap trying to keep up with both at the same time like PIP. The nice thing about being on the ESPN platform is all of the games will be available in the app for later viewing if you don't catch it live.

Yeah, knowing I can watch with a single subscription is certainly a plus. It is more the travel than anything.

(04-04-2022 08:59 AM)monarx Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-04-2022 08:40 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote: [ -> ]Unrealistic expectations by some.

There was never an avenue to the AAC.
There was never an avenue to the A10.
We might as well have aspired to the ACC, B1G, or the SEC
Staying in the CAA after VCU and Mason left was a non starter.

We had two, and possibly three choices.
1. Stay in CUSA
2. Move to the SBC
3. Possible move to the MAC.

Given the better media deal, and lower travel costs, the SBC move was a no brainer.

This may be accurate. But if so, why? Why would UNCC, UNT, UAB or FAU get invited but not ODU? There’s nothing those schools should have on us, and ODUs geography, budget and potential is arguably better. I think the AAC made a lot of sense, and we didn’t pursue it out of fear it would turn into the next CUSA. That’s just a guess, but it makes sense. The SB is fine and it’s home. But if the AAC wasn’t even an option, that’s on us for dropping from the most likely candidate when UConn left to out of consideration a few years later. I would have thought we’d be their third or fourth choice at least.

It is still very likely to become the next CUSA. It is extremely unstable and not likely the flagship programs will be there long.

(04-04-2022 09:06 AM)ODU AGGIE Wrote: [ -> ]The Sun Belt is absolutely the best place for us to be at this time and likely well into the future. Can you even imagine a better football schedule than this one?

SEP 10 (SAT) TBA
AT EAST CAROLINA

SEP 17 (SAT) TBA
AT VIRGINIA

SEP 24 (SAT) TBA
VS ARKANSAS STATE

OCT 1 (SAT) TBA
VS LIBERTY

OCT 15 (SAT) TBA
AT COASTAL CAROLINA

OCT 22 (SAT) TBA
VS GEORGIA SOUTHERN

OCT 29 (SAT) TBA
AT GEORGIA STATE

NOV 5 (SAT) TBA
VS MARSHALL

NOV 12 (SAT) TBA
VS JAMES MADISON

NOV 19 (SAT) TBA
AT APPALACHIAN STATE

NOV 26 (SAT) TBA
AT SOUTH ALABAMA

As for basketball, the SBC will certainly be as good as C-USA, if not better, and we will not be 2,000 miles from one of our stronger round ball conference mates. This move is a win for the Monarchs in every possible way.

Cheers!

Easy to imagine a better schedule. For instance this year we play all those teams AND we play Tek to open the season!

(04-03-2022 03:08 PM)ODUDon Wrote: [ -> ]Conference USA has added Liberty, New Mexico State, Sam Houston, and Jacksonville State so far. How could anyone say that’s a more compelling league than the SBC?

Conference USA is also trying to add Eastern Kentucky.

(04-03-2022 10:54 AM)beenjamminmore Wrote: [ -> ]I believe that those to whom you refer are members of a fringe minority.

I agree. When 5,000 of us rolled into Myrtle on the Monday before Christmas...I didn't get the sense that a lot of people were upset about the move.

(04-04-2022 09:59 AM)GregK24 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-03-2022 03:08 PM)ODUDon Wrote: [ -> ]Conference USA has added Liberty, New Mexico State, Sam Houston, and Jacksonville State so far. How could anyone say that’s a more compelling league than the SBC?

Conference USA is also trying to add Eastern Kentucky.

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