Quote:With a Senate hearing underway to consider confirming a new justice, that national treasure C-SPAN has commissioned another one of its timely polls on the Supreme Court.
The results are disheartening.
The verdict confirms that the nation’s education system needs to rethink its civics instruction or even bring it back. Because these schools have turned out a couple generations of clueless clods who are still perversely eligible to vote.
Here’s a sampling of the results from 1,011 Likely Voters, many of whom shouldn’t be allowed to:
44 percent of the voters don’t know that the three branches of government are co-equal. (In case you’re one of those people, the branches are the Executive, the Legislative, and the Judicial.)
Of the 44 percent who believe the branches are not equal, half (51 percent) think the Executive has the most power, a quarter (26 percent) believe the Legislative has the most clout, and an ignorant 23 percent think it’s the Judiciary.
Nearly half (46 percent) say the Supreme Court is a partisan institution.
61 percent claim they are closely following Joe Biden’s Court nominee.
However, 72 percent of those same voters are lying. They have no idea who the nominee is up for the confirmation. (If you’re in that crowd, her name is Ketanji Brown Jackson and the hearing continues today live on C-SPAN.)
Also, fully 85 percent are unaware that the nominee is a black female judge. Which means Joe Biden might not reap quite as much political credit as he figured when he simply ruled out all other kinds, colors, and genders of Americans in his secretive selection process.
58 percent of the voters think this Senate confirmation process is not an “effective and fair tool” for approving Court nominees or they have no idea about it.
In case you weren’t taught math well either, that means only 42 percent think the ongoing Senate confirmation is effective and fair.
Voters don’t really keep up much with Supreme Court outcomes either. The best-known decision, as you might imagine because it’s the only one liberal media ever talk about, was Roe vs Wade. That’s the one that found a right to abortion in the Constitution that took effect 234 years ago this June.
The historic and unanimous Brown vs Board of Education decision not so much. Only six percent knew about the 1954 ruling that found racial segregation in public schools violates the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment and, in effect, forced reform of public schools so people like Judge Jackson could attain a proper public education.
No one in the survey knows much about existing Court members. The best-known justice is Clarence Thomas (24 percent). He’s the black one. And then John Roberts (22 percent), the boss one who’s white, of course.
These Likely Voters may not know much of anything about the Supreme Court. But 84 percent say they are certain that its decisions affect their lives.
Of course, this could also mean either they think they’ll look smarter by lying. Or more likely, being American voters, they’re just too lazy to bother learning more about the institution.
The poll did offer a handful of hope. Nearly six-in-10 (59 percent) said the Court would be better if its members did not all come from the same law schools in the Northeast.
They thought instead of a lifetime appointment, an 18-year-term would be better. And to show how unrealistically idealistic they are about government institutions in Washington, more than seven-out-of-10 voters said the Court should have a Code of Ethics for its members.
Respondents liked the idea of the Court permitting audio of oral arguments, which it allowed two years ago as a pandemic adjustment.
And since C-SPAN was paying Pierrepont Analytics to do the survey, the company also asked if TV cameras should be allowed in the Court. Wait for it! Fully 65 percent said Yes, while 70 percent said live TV coverage would help build trust in the institution — just like it has in Congress.
Perhaps the most interesting poll result was that 92 percent would watch the Supreme Court operate if it was a weekly show on Fox News with Judge Jeanine presiding.
No, just kidding. I made that one up to see if you’re still paying attention.
We are adjourned.
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We are getting the government we deserve.
The executive branch does have the most power.
Evidence is scattered and anecdotal, but by-and-by, the 1960s were probably the decade in which public education ceased to be a source of strength for this nation. Sure, not every public school in the whole country instantly turned to sh¡t all at once, but the overall trend line turned downward and has never recovered. We now have people as old as 70 (and, of course, at all younger ages) who never really learned the basics of American civics/government. The result is all around us. There is precisely Zero reason to think it will change anytime soon.
(03-22-2022 05:00 PM)Bronco14 Wrote: [ -> ]The executive branch does have the most power.
Agree, didn't start out that way, but here we are
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(03-22-2022 04:48 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:With a Senate hearing underway to consider confirming a new justice, that national treasure C-SPAN has commissioned another one of its timely polls on the Supreme Court.
The results are disheartening.
The verdict confirms that the nation’s education system needs to rethink its civics instruction or even bring it back. Because these schools have turned out a couple generations of clueless clods who are still perversely eligible to vote.
Here’s a sampling of the results from 1,011 Likely Voters, many of whom shouldn’t be allowed to:
44 percent of the voters don’t know that the three branches of government are co-equal. (In case you’re one of those people, the branches are the Executive, the Legislative, and the Judicial.)
Of the 44 percent who believe the branches are not equal, half (51 percent) think the Executive has the most power, a quarter (26 percent) believe the Legislative has the most clout, and an ignorant 23 percent think it’s the Judiciary.
Nearly half (46 percent) say the Supreme Court is a partisan institution.
61 percent claim they are closely following Joe Biden’s Court nominee.
However, 72 percent of those same voters are lying. They have no idea who the nominee is up for the confirmation. (If you’re in that crowd, her name is Ketanji Brown Jackson and the hearing continues today live on C-SPAN.)
Also, fully 85 percent are unaware that the nominee is a black female judge. Which means Joe Biden might not reap quite as much political credit as he figured when he simply ruled out all other kinds, colors, and genders of Americans in his secretive selection process.
58 percent of the voters think this Senate confirmation process is not an “effective and fair tool” for approving Court nominees or they have no idea about it.
In case you weren’t taught math well either, that means only 42 percent think the ongoing Senate confirmation is effective and fair.
Voters don’t really keep up much with Supreme Court outcomes either. The best-known decision, as you might imagine because it’s the only one liberal media ever talk about, was Roe vs Wade. That’s the one that found a right to abortion in the Constitution that took effect 234 years ago this June.
The historic and unanimous Brown vs Board of Education decision not so much. Only six percent knew about the 1954 ruling that found racial segregation in public schools violates the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment and, in effect, forced reform of public schools so people like Judge Jackson could attain a proper public education.
No one in the survey knows much about existing Court members. The best-known justice is Clarence Thomas (24 percent). He’s the black one. And then John Roberts (22 percent), the boss one who’s white, of course.
These Likely Voters may not know much of anything about the Supreme Court. But 84 percent say they are certain that its decisions affect their lives.
Of course, this could also mean either they think they’ll look smarter by lying. Or more likely, being American voters, they’re just too lazy to bother learning more about the institution.
The poll did offer a handful of hope. Nearly six-in-10 (59 percent) said the Court would be better if its members did not all come from the same law schools in the Northeast.
They thought instead of a lifetime appointment, an 18-year-term would be better. And to show how unrealistically idealistic they are about government institutions in Washington, more than seven-out-of-10 voters said the Court should have a Code of Ethics for its members.
Respondents liked the idea of the Court permitting audio of oral arguments, which it allowed two years ago as a pandemic adjustment.
And since C-SPAN was paying Pierrepont Analytics to do the survey, the company also asked if TV cameras should be allowed in the Court. Wait for it! Fully 65 percent said Yes, while 70 percent said live TV coverage would help build trust in the institution — just like it has in Congress.
Perhaps the most interesting poll result was that 92 percent would watch the Supreme Court operate if it was a weekly show on Fox News with Judge Jeanine presiding.
No, just kidding. I made that one up to see if you’re still paying attention.
We are adjourned.
Link
We are getting the government we deserve.
I know I have stated on this forum multiple times that America is full of both dumb and ignorant people.
It’s also obvious that in Washington they view the unwashed masses much like they think of farm animals and needing to lead them to the feeding and water trough……….
………unfortunately to some degree they aren’t wrong……
Part of the reason I enjoy coming here are there are some really smart people here and they pay attention to government…..and how sleazy it is
(03-22-2022 05:00 PM)Bronco14 Wrote: [ -> ]The executive branch does have the most power.
Because congress has, over the years, ceded vast amounts of power to the executive. The founders do not appear to have intended it that way, inferred in part because Article 1 is the congress and Article 2 is the president.
(03-22-2022 05:00 PM)Bronco14 Wrote: [ -> ]The executive branch does have the most power.
That is only because the EB (if it is the right person) has the CIA, FBI, and DOJ to act at it's bidding.
(03-22-2022 08:43 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-22-2022 05:00 PM)Bronco14 Wrote: [ -> ]The executive branch does have the most power.
Because congress has, over the years, ceded vast amounts of power to the executive. The founders do not appear to have intended it that way, inferred in part because Article 1 is the congress and Article 2 is the president.
They’ve ceded it largely because they prefer to never have to actually take a stand, one way or the other. Most of them want to make some statements or write a letter, but never actually do much of anything but vote in lockstep with what the bosses want (their financial benefactors)
Sucks, but that’s how most operate…..I’ve got a Senator and Representative that operate this way 98% of the time. Never lead - just follow.
(03-23-2022 05:09 PM)Crebman Wrote: [ -> ] (03-22-2022 08:43 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-22-2022 05:00 PM)Bronco14 Wrote: [ -> ]The executive branch does have the most power.
Because congress has, over the years, ceded vast amounts of power to the executive. The founders do not appear to have intended it that way, inferred in part because Article 1 is the congress and Article 2 is the president.
They’ve ceded it largely because they prefer to never have to actually take a stand, one way or the other. Most of them want to make some statements or write a letter, but never actually do much of anything but vote in lockstep with what the bosses want (their financial benefactors)
Sucks, but that’s how most operate…..I’ve got a Senator and Representative that operate this way 98% of the time. Never lead - just follow.
They just want to keep getting re-elected, so they can stay on the gravy train. And passing the buck is great, if that is your objective.
I didn't need this poll to tell me that half the country is a bunch of idiots.
Half the country votes for people like Biden, Pelosi, Schiff, Swalwell, Nadler, Schumer, Maxine Waters, Gavin Newsome... should I go on?
Most powerful branch of government is Fourth Branch which is the Intelligence Community and various bureaucratic agencies