Rice's number are usually on the high side.
Anyone's opinion on the actual number?
Trinity at AAA draws better than this.
Fans are experessing their opinion of Hatfield by not showing up.
So what?
It's hard for many teams to draw fans when they are even winning...let alone LOSING.
Maybe Rice's effort last night will help them turn the corner...but Rice does have to look at Coaching "options"...and might need more of a promoter then even a Coach.
KL
A real ouch was when Jesse Palmer, the color analyst, said there were more people in the MOB (rice band) than in the stands.
KnightLight Wrote:So what?
Do you always smart off at every post?
Get a life.
Rice has many disadvantages:
1. Private school with very high academic standards. I know the athletes do not have to meet them but they have to meet a higher standard than say their buddies a few miles to the west have to.
2. Like Tulsa, Rice has very few undergrads (around 3,000) and it gets magnified by having a small alumni base.
3. Houston is a pro town first, then UT and TAMU, then Cougar/Owl. UT/TAMU could play UNT at either Rice Stadium or Robertson Stadium and outdraw any Rice or Houston game plays in their own stadium.
Low attendance numbers are a problem across the league. It's something the league office should try to address. The best way to improve your attendance is to win.
UTEP fans had to have made up one-third of that crowd. There was a fair amount of orange in the stands.
I think Rice fans have finally had enough of Coach Hatfield.
Wavebacker Wrote:Low attendance numbers are a problem across the league.
Yep. If the product doesn't sell, something has to change.
NASCAR, NBA, small alumni bases, NFL, etc aren't reasons; they are excuses. All folks set aside time and money in their personal lives for "can't miss" activities. The schools and league have to make the "game experience" exciting enough to qualify as one of those. Just opening a ticket office doesn't work in today's competition for entertainment time and dollars.
It's much more about folks allocating time for our events than money. Twenty or twenty five dollars isn't an issue for most folks, investing 4 hours of relaxation time for a boring event is.
oldtiger Wrote:Wavebacker Wrote:Low attendance numbers are a problem across the league.
Yep. If the product doesn't sell, something has to change.
NASCAR, NBA, small alumni bases, NFL, etc aren't reasons; they are excuses. All folks set aside time and money in their personal lives for "can't miss" activities. The schools and league have to make the "game experience" exciting enough to qualify as one of those. Just opening a ticket office doesn't work in today's competition for entertainment time and dollars.
It's much more about folks allocating time for our events than money. Twenty or twenty five dollars isn't an issue for most folks, investing 4 hours of relaxation time for a boring event is.
That's it. Alumni, students, school employees and the band are your core attendees. After that, you really gotta work it to sell your product to the fan who needs motivation to actually go to your game. If not, they'll stay at home and watch a game or two on TV.
They were sick of the failure...
But next home game vs. Tulane, there should be more. We probably will be coming off a win at SMU.
Better close than a blow-out!
I undertsnad the reasons for low attendance.
That was not my question.
I was trying t get a handle on the actual attendance, not what was reported.
Thanks
oldtiger Wrote:NASCAR, NBA, small alumni bases, NFL, etc aren't reasons; they are excuses.
Call it what you want, but it doesn't change the fact that Dallas and Houston are major league towns - people want to see the best there is out there, and for those two cities its NFL, NBA, and MLB.
Memphis, El Paso, and Louisville are ideal bush league cities - big cities with no major sports (except for the Grizz, if you even count them) such that the people who want to see the best there is have to go see minor conference college football.
West Is the Best Wrote:I undertsnad the reasons for low attendance.
That was not my question.
I was trying t get a handle on the actual attendance, not what was reported.
Thanks
Oh.
I was watching the game...9,3 something sounds about right. It was horrible:(
OwlJacket Wrote:oldtiger Wrote:NASCAR, NBA, small alumni bases, NFL, etc aren't reasons; they are excuses.
Call it what you want, but it doesn't change the fact that Dallas and Houston are major league towns - people want to see the best there is out there, and for those two cities its NFL, NBA, and MLB.
Memphis, El Paso, and Louisville are ideal bush league cities - big cities with no major sports (except for the Grizz, if you even count them) such that the people who want to see the best there is have to go see minor conference college football.
Seriously, you're usually a "common sense" person but this makes no sense.
In speaking about Dallas and Houston, you use the NBA as a major league sport. But in speaking of Memphis your comment is "(except for the Grizz, if you even count them)". When I look at the NBA standings, I see the Memphis Griz. Your "ideal bush league cities" comment is taken as offensive and out of line.
West Is the Best Wrote:I was trying t get a handle on the actual attendance, not what was reported.
I was there. The number in the box score is as accurate as these things ever are. It was accurate within +-500.
That said, it was as small a crowd as I've seen in the stadium in a long time.
oldtiger Wrote:OwlJacket Wrote:oldtiger Wrote:NASCAR, NBA, small alumni bases, NFL, etc aren't reasons; they are excuses.
Call it what you want, but it doesn't change the fact that Dallas and Houston are major league towns - people want to see the best there is out there, and for those two cities its NFL, NBA, and MLB.
Memphis, El Paso, and Louisville are ideal bush league cities - big cities with no major sports (except for the Grizz, if you even count them) such that the people who want to see the best there is have to go see minor conference college football.
Seriously, you're usually a "common sense" person but this makes no sense.
In speaking about Dallas and Houston, you use the NBA as a major league sport. But in speaking of Memphis your comment is "(except for the Grizz, if you even count them)". When I look at the NBA standings, I see the Memphis Griz. Your "ideal bush league cities" comment is taken as offensive and out of line.
I agree, but then I guess you need to consider the source. OilyJack doesn't seem to show Memphis or the Tigers much love does he. If Rice and Houston cannot compete against their city sports teams for attendance and dollars, then maybe they should throw in the towel. Certainly thowing insults to other schools that are demonstrating better success than the Owls etc is not the solution. P.S. Owl, I was really impressed how that major league Houston team folded like a tent against the Whitesox. Better luck next time in what another 40 plus seasons?
Rice is being out drawn by many high schools in Texas and the USA.
There are few conf that some how should become involved with atten promblems. Why they sit on thier a$$ is beyond me
Quote:A real ouch was when Jesse Palmer, the color analyst, said there were more people in the MOB (rice band) than in the stands.
The Batchelor Jesse Palmer??
West Is the Best Wrote:Rice's number are usually on the high side.
Anyone's opinion on the actual number?
Trinity at AAA draws better than this.
Fans are experessing their opinion of Hatfield by not showing up.
It is a shame. The owls played an inspired game and came close to ending their losing streak (not to mention beating the highest-ranked team in C-USA). Personally, I love the wishbone offense, and enjoyed watching Rice with the ball. I think an option-based offense gives schools like Rice their best chance to win, because it enables disciplined players to move (and control) the ball against superior athletes. Precision teamwork is what football is supposed to be about anyway. I hope Rice is not about to make the same mistake Army did and try to adopt a brand of football they will never be able to adequately recruit to. Last night proved the wishbone is the smart approach for them. I understand they have a lot of young players this year and if the apple-cart is not upset, they will be tough to stop in the upcoming seasons.